Taking questions of the Different state past (2)

[Loudmouth]

Not if Thor resides in the supernatural realm.

Why not? Why can't we see Thor in the supernatural realm?

It seems that you want the supernatural to be untestable so that your claims can't be tested.

A link isn't evidence.

Yes, it is. Read it.

Yep, the typical 'yer a liar' response.

The typical lying post from you.

It's faith based, just like all creation-ist views of how humanity was created is faith based.

We have the evidence.

29+ Evidences for Macroevolution: The Scientific Case for Common Descent

 

[Loudmouth]

That's your conclusion. Other conclusions would recognize common building blocks.

My conclusion recognizes common building blocks as they are passed on through common ancestry. I just showed you how macroevolution passes the scientific method, and you ignore it.

And of course this conclusion of yours does absolutely nothing to address the faith-based view that only naturalistic mechanisms created humanity from a single life form of long long ago.

That's because my conclusion does not contain your misrepresentation of how science is done.

 

[justlookinla]

Why not? Why can't we see Thor in the supernatural realm?

It seems that you want the supernatural to be untestable so that your claims can't be tested.

The supernatural realm isn't visible to those in the natural realm unless they have 'spiritual eyes'.

Yes, it is. Read it.

No it isn't. It's a link.

If you're capable, actually post evidence. If not, I understand.

The typical lying post from you.

And even more 'yer a liar'. So common behavior from the antichrist spirit.

We have the evidence.

29+ Evidences for Macroevolution: The Scientific Case for Common Descent

A link isn't evidence. And apparently you're not capable of actually posting this alleged evidence. I suggest that you discuss issues you can actually discuss.

 

[justlookinla]

My conclusion recognizes common building blocks as they are passed on through common ancestry. I just showed you how macroevolution passes the scientific method, and you ignore it.

No, you just gave your opinion of what certain indicators mean.

That's because my conclusion does not contain your misrepresentation of how science is done.

Science should be interested in the truth, as well as you.

 

[Loudmouth]

The supernatural realm isn't visible to those in the natural realm unless they have 'spiritual eyes'.

That is something you made up.

No it isn't. It's a link.

Yes, a link with the evidence you claim doesn't exist.

If you're capable, actually post evidence. If not, I understand.

Already did.

29+ Evidences for Macroevolution: The Scientific Case for Common Descent

And even more 'yer a liar'. So common behavior from the antichrist spirit.

The antichrist is the one who lies. What does that make you?

A link isn't evidence.

The evidence is on the link. Click it.

The antichrist is the one who has to run away from the evidence.

 

[Loudmouth]

No, you just gave your opinion of what certain indicators mean.

No, I didn't. I showed how they can be used to test for common ancestry. It is based on the OBSERVED randomness of retroviral insertion. We observe that retroviruses insert randomly in a genome. We observe that siblings share orthologous ERV's due to sharing a common ancestor. These are not opininos. These are observed facts.

Are there any observed supernatural mechanisms that you would like to add? Do you have any observations of deities putting ERV's in genomes?

Science should be interested in the truth, as well as you.

That is why it follows facts instead of stuff you make up.

 

[justlookinla]

That is something you made up.

That's something I, and millions of others, have experienced.

Yes, a link with the evidence you claim doesn't exist.

You're apparently not capable of actually posting what you're wishing to say from your link. That's your issue, not mine.

Already did.

29+ Evidences for Macroevolution: The Scientific Case for Common Descent[/QUOTE]

Links aren't discussions, links aren't evidence.

The antichrist is the one who lies. What does that make you?

Your, now frequent 'yer a liar' attack against me doesn't dismiss your ignorance of scripture.

1Jn_2:18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.
1Jn_2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
1Jn_4:3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
2Jn_1:7 For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.
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Now, you've been shown, scripturally, the definition of antichrist.

[QUOTED]The evidence is on the link. Click it.[/QUOTE]

Links aren't discussions, links aren't evidence.

The antichrist is the one who has to run away from the evidence.

Take a few minutes to read the scripture. See if it applies to you.

 

[Loudmouth]

That's something I, and millions of others, have experienced.

Then produce the empirical evidence. If you want us to consider it, then produce the evidence.

You're apparently not capable of actually posting what you're wishing to say from your link. That's your issue, not mine.

I have posted it before and you never responded. You run away from it, just like an antichrist.

Your, now frequent 'yer a liar' attack against me doesn't dismiss your ignorance of scripture.

1Jn_2:18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.
1Jn_2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
1Jn_4:3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
2Jn_1:7 For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.
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Now, you've been shown, scripturally, the definition of antichrist.

Even the devil quoted scripture. Again, only the antichrist runs away from evidence.

 

[justlookinla]

Then produce the empirical evidence. If you want us to consider it, then produce the evidence.

Present the evidence that random, mindless, meaningless, purposeless (other than procreation) and directionless natural mechanisms created humanity from a single life form of long long ago. If you wish for me to believe that, produce the evidence.

I have posted it before and you never responded. You run away from it, just like an antichrist.

You're still not comprehending what antichrist is. Once more......

1Jn_2:18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.
1Jn_2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
1Jn_4:3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
2Jn_1:7 For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.
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Even the devil quoted scripture. Again, only the antichrist runs away from evidence.

Satan misapplies scripture......like you're doing. It's the same antichrist spirit working in both of you.

 

[Loudmouth]

Present the evidence that random, mindless, meaningless, purposeless (other than procreation) and directionless natural mechanisms created humanity from a single life form of long long ago. If you wish for me to believe that, produce the evidence.

If I start a thread on endogenous retroviruses, will you actually address it and discuss it? Or is it a waste of our time to present evidence to you? I really don't feel like wasting my time presenting evidence that you will just close your eyes to like you did in other threads.

You're still not comprehending what antichrist is.

I comprehend just fine. The antichrist is full of lies. Everytime you use the phrase "atheistic creationism" you are telling a lie. Everytime you refuse to look at evidence, you are telling a lie. Everytime you claim that the theory of evolution is just guesses and suppositions, you are telling a lie. You are trying to lead christians astray by telling them that you can't accept the Bible and science.

Satan misapplies scripture......like you're doing.

I'm not the one misapplying scripture to the evolutionary history of humankind. That would be you.

 

[justlookinla]

If I start a thread on endogenous retroviruses, will you actually address it and discuss it? Or is it a waste of our time to present evidence to you? I really don't feel like wasting my time presenting evidence that you will just close your eyes to like you did in other threads.

I've told you several times my view on the alleged common ancestor. Common building blocks.

I comprehend just fine. The antichrist is full of lies.

This is the scriptural definition of antichrist...does it fit you?......

1Jn_2:18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.
1Jn_2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
1Jn_4:3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
2Jn_1:7 For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.
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Everytime you use the phrase "atheistic creationism" you are telling a lie.

And more 'yer a liar'.

Everytime you refuse to look at evidence, you are telling a lie.

And more 'yer a liar'.

Everytime you claim that the theory of evolution is just guesses and suppositions, you are telling a lie.[/QUOTE]

And more 'yer a liar'.

You are trying to lead christians astray by telling them that you can't accept the Bible and science.

The antichrist spirit denies the Father and the Son. How about you?

I'm not the one misapplying scripture to the evolutionary history of humankind. That would be you.

The 'scientific' evolutionary history of mankind is a farce, a fable, not to be taken seriously. It's Godless creation-ism cloaking itself in pseudo-science.

 

[Loudmouth]

I've told you several times my view on the alleged common ancestor.

You have never shown why your views would specifically produce a nested hierarchy, so it doesn't explain the observations.

Common ancestry does produce a nested hierarchy of common building blocks. You share common building blocks with your siblings and cousins because you share a common ancestor. We OBSERVE that common ancestry produces a nested hierarchy of common building blocks.

Where are your observations?

This is the scriptural definition of antichrist...does it fit you?......

You are the one denying the evidence for how humanity came about, and then lying about the evidence. Don't look at me.

And more 'yer a liar'.



And more 'yer a liar'.

Everytime you claim that the theory of evolution is just guesses and suppositions, you are telling a lie.
And more 'yer a liar'.



The antichrist spirit denies the Father and the Son. How about you?

If you don't like being called a liar, then stop lying. That simple.

The 'scientific' evolutionary history of mankind is a farce, a fable, not to be taken seriously. It's Godless creation-ism cloaking itself in pseudo-science.

Will you discuss the ERV evidence if I start a thread on it?

 

[justlookinla]

You have never shown why your views would specifically produce a nested hierarchy, so it doesn't explain the observations.

Common ancestry does produce a nested hierarchy of common building blocks. You share common building blocks with your siblings and cousins because you share a common ancestor. We OBSERVE that common ancestry produces a nested hierarchy of common building blocks.

Where are your observations?

Nested hierarchy only indicates an intelligent designer, in my view. Of course you don't have to accept that.

You are the one denying the evidence for how humanity came about, and then lying about the evidence. Don't look at me.

And yet more 'yer a liar'.

If you don't like being called a liar, then stop lying. That simple.

And yet more 'yer a liar'. And it doesn't bother me, I know the spirit that I'm dealing with.

Will you discuss the ERV evidence if I start a thread on it?

Will you admit that it's your conclusion and belief before we start discussing it? And no links?

 

[Loudmouth]

Nested hierarchy only indicates an intelligent designer, in my view.

Where is your evidence?

Of course you don't have to accept that.

I accept evidence. Have any?

We observe evolutionary mechanisms producing a nested hierarchy of common building blocks. Where are your observations?

And yet more 'yer a liar'.

Then quit lying.

And yet more 'yer a liar'. And it doesn't bother me, I know the spirit that I'm dealing with.

It doesn't bother you that you continue to twist the meaning of words? It doesn't both you that when you are asked to give a definition for "creationism" that you knowing give the definition for another word that is not "creationism"? It doesn't bother you that you refuse to address the evidence?

Will you admit that it's your conclusion and belief before we start discussing it? And no links?

I already started a thread with the evidence.

http://www.christianforums.com/t7840464/

 

[justlookinla]

Where is your evidence?

That's my faith based view.

I accept evidence. Have any?

My views are like yours, faith based.

We observe evolutionary mechanisms producing a nested hierarchy of common building blocks. Where are your observations?

That's not evidence of only naturalistic mechanisms producing humanity from a single life form of long long ago.

Then quit lying.

And yet another, 'yer a liar'.

It doesn't bother you that you continue to twist the meaning of words? It doesn't both you that when you are asked to give a definition for "creationism" that you knowing give the definition for another word that is not "creationism"? It doesn't bother you that you refuse to address the evidence?

Doesn't it bother you that you've given no evidence that humanity is the product of only naturalistic mechanisms acting on a single life form from long long ago? Why do you continue promoting your faith based creation-ist view?

I already started a thread with the evidence.

http://www.christianforums.com/t7840464/

What's the name of the thread? I'll check it out.

I'm about 99.9999999% sure it's just going to be more of your faith based conclusions which do nothing to offer evidence that humanity is the result of only naturalistic mechanisms acting on a single life form of long long ago.

 

[Loudmouth]

My views are like yours, faith based.

I have started a thread that discusses the evidence. Will you be joining me?

http://www.christianforums.com/t7840464/

That's not evidence of only naturalistic mechanisms producing humanity from a single life form of long long ago.

I wasn't aware that I had to argue for your strawmen?

I am not allowed to present my own arguments?

And yet another, 'yer a liar'.

Preceded by another lie.

Doesn't it bother you that you've given no evidence that humanity is the product of only naturalistic mechanisms acting on a single life form from long long ago?

It doesn't bother me that I have not presented evidence for a view I don't hold. Why should that bother me?

What's the name of the thread? I'll check it out.

I'm about 99.9999999% sure it's just going to be more of your faith based conclusions which do nothing to offer evidence that humanity is the result of only naturalistic mechanisms acting on a single life form of long long ago.

Again, keep your strawmen to yourself.

 

[justlookinla]

I have started a thread that discusses the evidence. Will you be joining me?

http://www.christianforums.com/t7840464/

What's the name of the tread?

I wasn't aware that I had to argue for your strawmen?

I am not allowed to present my own arguments?

Of course. We all have our own opinions.

Preceded by another lie.

And more 'yer a liar'.

It doesn't bother me that I have not presented evidence for a view I don't hold. Why should that bother me?

You, nor anyone else, has presented evidence that only naturalistic mechanisms produced humanity from a single life form of long long ago. Your ERV thingie doesn't prove, nor address, that issue.

Again, keep your strawmen to yourself.

Ok, maybe I should have said 100% sure.

 

[Loudmouth]

What's the name of the tread?

Endogenous Retroviruses: Evidence for Human Evolution

Of course. We all have our own opinions.

I have a scientific theory supported by facts. That is not an opinion.

And more 'yer a liar'.

Don't lie and I won't point them out.

You, nor anyone else, has presented evidence that only naturalistic mechanisms produced humanity from a single life form of long long ago. Your ERV thingie doesn't prove, nor address, that issue.

Why would we present evidence for a position we don't hold? Our position is that the evidence is consistent with evolutionary mechanisms. I see that you are already inventing excuses to ignore the evidence.

 

[justlookinla]

Endogenous Retroviruses: Evidence for Human Evolution

I don't view your conclusions as evidence.

I have a scientific theory supported by facts. That is not an opinion.

You have a series of guesses and suppositions.

Don't lie and I won't point them out.

And yet another 'yer a liar'.

Why would we present evidence for a position we don't hold? Our position is that the evidence is consistent with evolutionary mechanisms. I see that you are already inventing excuses to ignore the evidence.

ERVs offer zero, none, nothing to support the view that only naturalistic mechanisms created humanity from a single life form of long long ago.

 

[Loudmouth]

I don't view your conclusions as evidence.

Go to that thread and discuss it. I discuss the facts in the first post. Stop avoiding them.

It is behavior like this that makes presenting evidence to you a waste of time. You can't even tell the difference between fact and opinion, a skill I was taught in the 3rd grade.

And yet another 'yer a liar'.

Then stop lying.

ERVs offer zero, none, nothing to support the view that only naturalistic mechanisms created humanity from a single life form of long long ago.

Go to the thread and discuss it.

Also, please stop lying about my position.