Taking questions of the Different state past (2)

[Loudmouth]

The dogma, fable and fanatical ritual of the Godless creationists who teach that mankind is the result of only naturalistic mechanisms acting on a single life form from long long ago is exposed by the diagram and the faith-based belief that random, mindless, meaningless, purposeless (other than procreation) and directionless mechanisms created the infinitely complex universe, the infinitely complex life we observe today is quickly shown to be a farce by your diagram also.

It is only the creationists who claim that God does not exist if scientific theories are true.

 

[justlookinla]

Keep digging.

Need a shovel?

What?

 

[justlookinla]

It is only the creationists who claim that God does not exist if scientific theories are true.

Only the antichrists will deny the fact that Jesus Christ is creator.

 

[Loudmouth]

What?

The old advice is that when you dig yourself into a hole, you should stop digging. You keep digging. I am asking you if you want a shovel.

 

[justlookinla]

The old advice is that when you dig yourself into a hole, you should stop digging. You keep digging. I am asking you if you want a shovel.

Sorry, don't see the correlation.

 

[Loudmouth]

Only the antichrists will deny the fact that Jesus Christ is creator.

Where in the scientific method does it say that any deity is not a creator? Where in the theory of evolution does it say that there are no creator deities?

 

[justlookinla]

Where in the scientific method does it say that any deity is not a creator? Where in the theory of evolution does it say that there are no creator deities?

There is no deity allowed in the guesses and suppositions of macro evolution. In the guesses and suppositions of macro evolution, only naturalistic mechanisms are created with, the only source of, humanity appearing on earth.

 

[Loudmouth]

There is no deity allowed in the guesses and suppositions of macro evolution.

Now you can't even be honest about the scientific method.

Deities are certainly allowed in the scientific method.

Also, macroevolution is a well supported scientific theory, not a guess or a supposition. Why do you have to lie about this?

In the guesses and suppositions of macro evolution, only naturalistic mechanisms are created with, the only source of, humanity appearing on earth.

Nowhere in the theory of evolution does it say that.

 

[Dizredux]

Only the antichrists will deny the fact that Jesus Christ is creator.

Does that mean that all the members of other religions are antichrist? What about the Christians that believe that God was the creator and Jesus came in later?

By your definitions there are only a select few who are Christians and all the rest are antichrists.

Interesting to say the least.

Dizredux

 

[Delphiki]

The dogma, fable and fanatical ritual of the Godless creationists who teach that mankind is the result of only naturalistic mechanisms acting on a single life form from long long ago is exposed by the diagram and the faith-based belief that random, mindless, meaningless, purposeless (other than procreation) and directionless mechanisms created the infinitely complex universe, the infinitely complex life we observe today is quickly shown to be a farce by your diagram also.

I didn't ask you, but thanks for showing everyone that you can't find the "demons" in the scientific method either.

 

[Delphiki]

There is no deity allowed in the guesses and suppositions of macro evolution. In the guesses and suppositions of macro evolution, only naturalistic mechanisms are created with, the only source of, humanity appearing on earth.

There's no anything unsupported by evidence in scientific theory. You don't just throw magic at a problem when you don't understand it. The day God becomes evident is the day he can be considered as part of the process.

It's a good thing you're a scarce minority in the world.

 

[justlookinla]

Now you can't even be honest about the scientific method.

How am I lying about the scientific method? Give an example.

Deities are certainly allowed in the scientific method.

Where? When? How? Give an example.

Also, macroevolution is a well supported scientific theory, not a guess or a supposition.

There is absolutely no scientific evidence that humanity, an alleged product of macroevolution, is the product of a random, mindless, meaningless, purposeless (other than procreation) and directionless mechanism acting on a single life form from long long ago.

Why do you have to lie about this?

Why do you have to respond with the typical 'yer a liar' response that's so common with the Godless promoting their creation-ist swill? Keep it up and we'll probably not be seeing you on the form, unless of course you come back with an alter.

Nowhere in the theory of evolution does it say that.

All you have to do is give an example of humanity being the product of something other than only naturalistic mechanisms acting on a single life form from long long ago.

I await.

 

[justlookinla]

Does that mean that all the members of other religions are antichrist?

If they meet the biblical definition of antichrist, they are. Here's now scripture defines antichrist........

1Jn_2:18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.
1Jn_2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
1Jn_4:3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
2Jn_1:7 For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.
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What about the Christians that believe that God was the creator and Jesus came in later?

Do they meet the biblical definition of antichrist?

By your definitions there are only a select few who are Christians and all the rest are antichrists.

Interesting to say the least.

Dizredux

I'm using the biblical definition. If that's causing you problems, it is interesting.....to say the least.

 

[justlookinla]

I didn't ask you, but thanks for showing everyone that you can't find the "demons" in the scientific method either.

The flow chart doesn't work for macroevolution.

 

[Delphiki]

The flow chart doesn't work for macroevolution.

But it does, somehow, for microevolution, right?

Wrong. All the same evidence supports evolution. You're arbitrary acceptance of one part of a scientific theory and fact of biology simple amounts to "I believe in a little bit of evolution, but not a lot."

That's like saying you don't believe in water because you believe in drops of water, but not oceans.

 

[justlookinla]

But it does, somehow, for microevolution, right?

Wrong. All the same evidence supports evolution. You're arbitrary acceptance of one part of a scientific theory and fact of biology simple amounts to "I believe in a little bit of evolution, but not a lot."

That's like saying you don't believe in water because you believe in drops of water, but not oceans.

All you have to do is apply macroevolution to the flow chart. Now, what is the result?

 

[Loudmouth]

How am I lying about the scientific method? Give an example.

You claimed that deities can't be part of the scientific method and scientific theories.

Where? When? How? Give an example.

Hypothesis: If Thor creates lightning, then we should be able to see Thor in the clouds during thunderstorms.

Experiment: Take pictures of clouds during thunderstorms.

There is absolutely no scientific evidence that humanity, an alleged product of macroevolution, is the product of a random, mindless, meaningless, purposeless (other than procreation) and directionless mechanism acting on a single life form from long long ago.

Evidence for evolution:

29+ Evidences for Macroevolution: The Scientific Case for Common Descent

You are lying again.

Why do you have to respond with the typical 'yer a liar' response that's so common with the Godless promoting their creation-ist swill?

Because you lie. If you don't like being called a liar, then stop lying.

All you have to do is give an example of humanity being the product of something other than only naturalistic mechanisms acting on a single life form from long long ago.

I await.

That's what you need to do. It is your claim that a deity created humanity. Where is your evidence?

 

[Loudmouth]

All you have to do is apply macroevolution to the flow chart. Now, what is the result?

Observation: Retroviruses insert randomly among millions of potential bases in a genome. We find remnants of retroviral insertions in the genomes of primates, including humans.

Hypothesis: If humans evolved from an ancestor shared with other primates, then we should find the same remnants of retroviral insertions at the same position in the genomes of multiple species of primates, including humans.

Test: We find over 200,000 retroviral remnants in both the human and chimp genomes at the same exact spots while only a relative handful are found at non-orthologous positions.

Conclusion: Humans evolved from an ancestor shared with chimps.

 

[justlookinla]

You claimed that deities can't be part of the scientific method and scientific theories.

You claim they can be.

Hypothesis: If Thor creates lightning, then we should be able to see Thor in the clouds during thunderstorms.

Experiment: Take pictures of clouds during thunderstorms.

Not if Thor resides in the supernatural realm.

Evidence for evolution:

29+ Evidences for Macroevolution: The Scientific Case for Common Descent

A link isn't evidence.

You are lying again.

Yep, the typical 'yer a liar' response.

Because you lie. If you don't like being called a liar, then stop lying.

And more 'yer a liar'.

That's what you need to do. It is your claim that a deity created humanity. Where is your evidence?

It's faith based, just like all creation-ist views of how humanity was created is faith based.

 

[justlookinla]

Observation: Retroviruses insert randomly among millions of potential bases in a genome. We find remnants of retroviral insertions in the genomes of primates, including humans.

Hypothesis: If humans evolved from an ancestor shared with other primates, then we should find the same remnants of retroviral insertions at the same position in the genomes of multiple species of primates, including humans.

Test: We find over 200,000 retroviral remnants in both the human and chimp genomes at the same exact spots while only a relative handful are found at non-orthologous positions.

Conclusion: Humans evolved from an ancestor shared with chimps.

That's your conclusion. Other conclusions would recognize common building blocks. And of course this conclusion of yours does absolutely nothing to address the faith-based view that only naturalistic mechanisms created humanity from a single life form of long long ago.