Super-Continent Pangaea

[Loudmouth]

Science shows us that the Bible is accurate and true.

Then why do you have to ignore science that contradicts the Bible?

 

[Loudmouth]

If liberal means atheist, and conservative means christian, what does science mean in all of this?

Cranberries.

 

[Loudmouth]

There is all kinds of science: true and false.
A lot of what people call science is pure speculation.

A lot of what you call "false science" is not speculative. It is supported by mountains of evidence.

 

[[serious]]

People can try to argue that bacteria is a predator. The Bible talks about producing fruit. A tree is not a tree when the seed begins to spout or when the seed takes root. A tree becomes a tree when the tree produces fruit. We know the seed is in the fruit.

There's a joke about life beginning at pollination here.

 

[joshua 1 9]

Then why do you have to ignore science that contradicts the Bible?

There is nothing to ignore because there is no science that contradicts the Bible. God stands behind the Bible. The Bible is as faithful and true as God is. I have been watching your try to falsify the Bible and you ALWAYS fail and you always well fail because it is totally impossible to prove the Bible to be in error because the Bible is absolute truth and 100% dependable, accurate and reliable. Nothing is more rock solid and secure as the Bible. Of course people can create a false premise and they can try to prove their false premise but all they have proven is that their premise is false. This is exactly what you do again and again and again and again and again. Over and over and over and over.

 

[Colter]

There is nothing to ignore because there is no science that contradicts the Bible. God stands behind the Bible. The Bible is as faithful and true as God is. I have been watching your try to falsify the Bible and you ALWAYS fail and you always well fail because it is totally impossible to prove the Bible to be in error because the Bible is absolute truth and 100% dependable, accurate and reliable. Nothing is more rock solid and secure as the Bible. Of course people can create a false premise and they can try to prove their false premise but all they have proven is that their premise is false. This is exactly what you do again and again and again and again and again. Over and over and over and over.

Outside of self hypnotizm, the superstitions of the Bible have been discredited by science. God doesn't write books but if he did it wouldn't contain as many errors as the Bible.

 

[joshua 1 9]

Outside of self hypnotizm, the superstitions of the Bible have been discredited by science.

Not at all. The skeptics and scoffers come on here taking huge amounts of time and they accomplish nothing. The truth is very simple and very easy. In fact we can teach Bible truth to a one year old child.

 

[Colter]

Not at all. The skeptics and scoffers come on here taking huge amounts of time and they accomplish nothing. The truth is very simple and very easy. In fact we can teach Bible truth to a one year old child.

Of coarse you can teach the Bible to a child, the Hebrew priest were writing for the child like mind of Bronze Age sheep hearders. But some children do grow up and realize Santa Clause isn't real. Much of the Bible is that way, vastly exaggerated psudo biographical stories, speculation and conjecture. It gives people a distorted concept of history and God.

 

[florida2]

It's not Noah's story that is universal, it's the fact that all cultures have experienced large floods.

All these cultures grew up near rivers or other sources of water. Hardly surprising that there would be floods at some point in their history, plus also borrowing from other cultures such as the flood from the epic of Gilgamesh

 

[florida2]

In fact we can teach Bible truth to a one year old child.

That's what worries me.

 

[Shemjaza]

Close but no cigar, they did not actually have teeth. "Instead of teeth, Dunkleosteus possessed two pairs of sharp bony plates which formed a beak-like structure." wiki

Why is teeth relevant and not the behavior?

Regardless, even with your weird fixation on sharp teeth, there's a Devonian placoderm fish called a Compagopiscis:

Personally I find both TE and YEC a whole lot more comprehensible and consistent then some of the OEC variants I've seen around here.

 

[joshua 1 9]

Why is teeth relevant and not the behavior?

This is the story. God got mad at Satan and threw Satan down to the earth. Satan got mad at God and decided that he would cause God's creation to destroy itself. That was when the dinosaurs began to develop teeth and they began to devour each other. That was when God destroyed the dinosaurs and the earth with water. He then froze the water and the earth went into an ice age. All of this is based on free will or freedom of choice. God gives us freedom to love Him but we can also choose NOT to love God. Those who choose not to walk in love and tolerance will destroy themselves.

YEC just covers the age or the area that we live in beginning around 12,900 years ago. At the end of the last ice age when the ice melted and the earth was flooded. There was a extinction followed by a radiation or population explosion. We are still a part of that era now today. Although you can be a strict literalness and say a day was a literal day. If you start with Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden 6,000 years ago.

 

[joshua 1 9]

That's what worries me.

Why does that worry you?
Because we can have them indoctrinated before the government and the public schools get a hold of them?

 

[joshua 1 9]

But some children do grow up and realize Santa Clause isn't real.

Santa Clause is a counterfeit of Saint Nicholas who was a very real person.

 

[Colter]

Santa Clause is a counterfeit of Saint Nicholas who was a very real person.

Hebrew history is like that as well.

 

[Jimmy D]

This is the story. God got mad at Satan and threw Satan down to the earth. Satan got mad at God and decided that he would cause God's creation to destroy itself. That was when the dinosaurs began to develop teeth and they began to devour each other. That was when God destroyed the dinosaurs and the earth with water. He then froze the water and the earth went into an ice age. All of this is based on free will or freedom of choice. God gives us freedom to love Him but we can also choose NOT to love God. Those who choose not to walk in love and tolerance will destroy themselves.

YEC just covers the age or the area that we live in beginning around 12,900 years ago. At the end of the last ice age when the ice melted and the earth was flooded. There was a extinction followed by a radiation or population explosion. We are still a part of that era now today. Although you can be a strict literalness and say a day was a literal day. If you start with Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden 6,000 years ago.

So you are suggesting that satan changed some animals into predators when God threw him to earth and then he destroyed the dinosaurs for some reason because of freedom of choice? What have any of these fantasies got to do with Pangaea?

If you're saying that a strict interpretation is true is accurate and Adam and Eve were in Eden 6000 years ago, (obvious nonsense as it implies homo sapiens were 'made' at the same time but I'll gloss over that) then there must have been a worldwide flood since then, the time line is clearly described... Science does falsify that little fact - ergo your arguments are nonsensical.

 

[joshua 1 9]

So you are suggesting

Actually this is the teaching of Kat Kerr. She talks a lot about heaven and she says that there is a Creation Museum in Heaven that teaches the story about the Dinosaurs. She has written two or three books and she has a lot of video on youtube.

 

[Jimmy D]

Kat Kerr? I seem to remember hearing about her before, doesn't she write fanciful and child like tales about her multiple trips to heaven. You actually accept this fantasist as an authority on anything?

 

[joshua 1 9]

If you're saying that a strict interpretation is true is accurate and Adam and Eve were in Eden 6000 years ago, (obvious nonsense as it implies homo sapiens were 'made' at the same time but I'll gloss over that) then there must have been a worldwide flood since then, the time line is clearly described... Science does falsify that little fact - ergo your arguments are nonsensical.

No matter how you slice it or dice it Adam and Eve were real people that lived 6,000 years ago. God established a covenant with Adam and Eve and they did not keep their part of the covenant. Just like atheists are breaking the covenant that God wants to establish with them.

Now when you talk about a "world wide flood" you are leaving the story of Adam and Eve and going on to the story of Noah. After the flood God established a covenant with Noah. Noah's flood was somewhere around 4300 or 4400 years ago. We know that there was NOT a world wife flood at that time. So Noah's flood must have been a local flood. In fact right now it is believed that the Garden of Eden is still under the water. So the world that Noah's story refers to was a bio-diverse eco-system, not the whole biosphere. The lesson we learn from Noah is that God give man a limited amount of time to repent. In Noah's day the world was flooded with water. In our day and age the world is soon to be cleansed with Fire. It is believed by Christians that within the next twenty to thirty years the world will be destroyed by war. We know from Science that a very small remnant always survives mass extinctions to repopulate the Earth. A lot of species are already extinct or soon to be extinct. Kat kerr does not teach this because she likes to keep her message happy and she does not want to scare people.

With creationism and evolution we only have a limited number of the pieces to the puzzle. We do our best to understand with what are given to work with. As we have more information then we can have better understanding. We know that the birthplace of man the Hunter Gather was in Africa. That Eden in Africa is on the brink of extinction. We know that the birthplace of modern man the food producer was in ancient Mesopotamia in what is now modern day Iraq. This is a war torn country and it is difficult to get students in there to do any archaeology at this point in time. Bush has soldiers in Iraq and they want and photographed the old ancient cities. But they had no training in archaeology.

Now you have Isis in there destorying the ancient relics in the musums. There is no one to safe guard them. In the same way skeptics and scoffers try to destroy the evidence and conceal the truth.

 

[joshua 1 9]

Kat Kerr? I seem to remember hearing about her before, doesn't she write fanciful and child like tales about her multiple trips to heaven. You actually accept this fantasist as an authority on anything?

I do not have to accept Kat Kerr as being real. It can be total fiction and that does not change a thing. Then we have an allegory. The Book hinds feet on high places by hannah hurnard is an allegory and there is a lot to be learned from this book. Even though Hurnard never got all the details of her story worked out. There are enough pieces there that I can put the picture together. For example a part of Hurnard's book tells the story of how does the Bee receive his stinger. This is an allegorical story that helps us to understand the world that we live in today.

In Florida a child was killed by alligator at Disney world. So we tell children stores of a world where animals do not harm children. Like the movie Honey I Shrank the Kids. Where children are shrunk down so they are the size of an ant so that they even ride the ants and become friends with the ant. We know how dangerous the real world is. So we create stories about a world where: "I have given you authority to trample on snakes and scorpions and to overcome all the power of the enemy; nothing will harm you."

If you do not need that comfort, if you do not need that assurance of well being. Then fine, move on and don't look back. I like Kat Kerr and I enjoy her stories if they are real or not. It is a lot better then a lot of the garbage that we put on the TV and allow our kids to watch.