Stop the Steal

[Belk]

But states leverage federal services for these things. Not a big deal.



What states have a citizen database? I'm not aware of one that would accurately apply for this scenario.

All of them. Are you heavily involved in state IT that you would be in the know on these?

Often: Texas Woman, Rachel Rodriguez, Arrested For Alleged Election Fraud, Illegal Voting

Unless by "Often" you mean "Once" posting a single anecdote that has not even been adjudicated yet is poor evidence.

Yes and I think it's a poor and invalid excuse. Voter ID doesn't hurt anyone except those who want to commit fraud. The ID is free. Our Lt. Gov, who is black, is a vocal advocate for Voter ID. This race-baiting political strategy needs to end. By comparison, gun control has a proven racist history and yet those who decry "racism" when looking at voter ID charge forward with gun control despite it disproportionately removing 2A rights from black citizens. I just wish people would be consistent, less hypocritical, or just be open and honest regarding their motives: "We don't want Voter ID because Democrats would potentially lose elections/power if implemented."

Likewise. "We want voter registration so Republicans can still win elections even though they can't get a majority of the vote"

 

[98cwitr]

All of them. Are you heavily involved in state IT that you would be in the know on these?

I am aware that NC has databases on drivers and taxpayers, but voters are in the NCSBE database...and there's no confirming process of IDing those folks.

Unless by "Often" you mean "Once" posting a single anecdote that has not even been adjudicated yet is poor evidence.

Did you read how many people she registered?

Likewise. "We want voter registration so Republicans can still win elections even though they can't get a majority of the vote"

I just want free and fair elections. It's not a big ask.

 

[Speedwell]

I just want free and fair elections. It's not a big ask.

Which Republicans win, regardless.

 

[Ringo84]

If it were really about """free and fair""" elections, there wouldn't be such efforts to curtail voting in places that just happen to be Democratic-leaning and/or majority minority.

It's about the GOP maintaining their power through suppression and gerrymandering.
Ringo

 

[98cwitr]

Which Republicans win, regardless.

I wish.

 

[98cwitr]

If it were really about """free and fair""" elections, there wouldn't be such efforts to curtail voting in places that just happen to be Democratic-leaning and/or majority minority.

It's about the GOP maintaining their power through suppression and gerrymandering.
Ringo

What power has the GOP maintained? They lost the WH and Congress.

 

[Arcangl86]

What power has the GOP maintained? They lost the WH and Congress.

And now there are a raft of new voter restrictions being proposed by the GOP.

 

[98cwitr]

And now there are a raft of new voter restrictions being proposed by the GOP.

GOP started calling for those about mid November, well prior to Biden taking office. A lot of people are still convinced the election was stolen. National Voter ID and wrapping controls around mail-in/absentee would take care of a lot of the loopholes where fraud would be easy to produce.

 

[Arcangl86]

GOP started calling for those about mid November, well prior to Biden taking office. A lot of people are still convinced the election was stolen.

Mid November. You mean AFTER they have lost the election?

 

[98cwitr]

Mid November. You mean AFTER they have lost the election?

Electoral votes aren't counted until January.

 

[Belk]

I am aware that NC has databases on drivers and taxpayers, but voters are in the NCSBE database...and there's no confirming process of IDing those folks.




Did you read how many people she registered?



I just want free and fair elections. It's not a big ask.

What makes you think they are not that way now? Every metric I have seen to date shows incidents of fraud are incredibly low and in no way effect the fairness of our election process so way is this such a big issue?

 

[Speedwell]

What makes you think they are not that way now? Every metric I have seen to date shows incidents of fraud are incredibly low and in now way effect the fairness of our election process so way is this such a big issue?

Because Trump supporters are so convinced that they are the real Americans, the true Patriots, that they simply cannot believe that they are outnumbered in this country when it comes to voting. There must have been fraud.

 

[Arcangl86]

Electoral votes aren't counted until January.

Yes, but there has also never been a case where faithless electors changed the outcome of the general.

 

[98cwitr]

What makes you think they are not that way now? Every metric I have seen to date shows incidents of fraud are incredibly low and in now way effect the fairness of our election process so way is this such a big issue?

The mountain of evidence saying that there was rampant fraud in the swing states in question.

 

[Pommer]

The mountain of evidence saying that there was rampant fraud in the swing states in question.

Oddly, no fraud in Trump brand States.

 

[98cwitr]

Oddly, no fraud in Trump brand States.

Eh, we have a pretty big question mark here in NC still over the governor's win.

 

[Pommer]

Eh, we have a pretty big question mark here in NC still over the governor's win.

Are you suggesting that the GOP is so incompetent as to allow voting fraud to occur under their very noses?

 

[Speedwell]

Eh, we have a pretty big question mark here in NC still over the governor's win.

That's because he's a Democrat. How could an evil, left-wing shape shifting lizard person win unless there was fraud? Especially in a Southern state, where there's got to be more real Americans than commies?

 

[98cwitr]

That's because he's a Democrat. How could an evil, left-wing shape shifting lizard person win unless there was fraud? Especially in a Southern state, where there's got to be more real Americans than commies?

Not exactly. It's that Trump and Tillis got so many votes, but they didn't correlate well between Cooper and Forest. Many of us are scratching our heads: Who votes for Trump and Tillis but NOT for Dan Forest?!

 

[98cwitr]

Are you suggesting that the GOP is so incompetent as to allow voting fraud to occur under their very noses?

I'd say that's shared between the NCSBE office and the General Assembly