Somebody has got to do something!

[HisdaughterJen]

And then what? You and all of his detractors will suddenly do a 180 and throw your support with the guy? I doubt it. A copy of his birth certificate has already been provided, but that doesn’t satisfy you. I guarantee that even if Obama held a news conference and produced the actual document, you and the rest of his detractors would still view him exactly the same way you do now, so it doesn’t benefit him at all to jump through hoops for a small segment of people who will never be satisfied with anything he does. If he’s not an illegal usurper, he’s a closet Muslim; if he’s not a closet Muslim then he’s a closet Bilderberger. It just never ends.

Wake up, Acts!

He has broken the law and trampled on the Constitution.

Sources please.

see the first post.

If that’s true then it’s because His mother married a man named Loto Soetoro after her divorce, and “Barry” is probably a nickname for Barrack. What’s so sinister about that? I have a cousin name William who uses the name “Putty”. Is there something odd about having a nickname? I sign stuff all the time under both "Nicholas" and "Nick".

You can't have dual citizenship in Indonesia, Acts.

He received a foreign aid grant under the name Soetoro when he attended Occidental College.

He traveled to Pakistan when Americans weren't allowed to travel there so what countries passport did he use?

He's been operating under different social security numbers.

He swore under oath that he never used any other name.

It’s not true that Americans weren't allowed; it was just difficult unless you had connections. Obama’s mother worked for the Asian Development Bank in Pakistan during the 80’s, and Obama visited while she was there. So he had connections.

Uh,...ACTS? Obama traveled to Pakistan while he was in College...in 1981.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1998036/posts

She worked for them from 1987 - 1992

http://iaoj.wordpress.com/2008/09/01/obamas-mother-stayed-in-pakistan-for-5-years/

Nope. It matters where he was born. That’s why if a child is born in this country from illegal aliens the baby is still a US citizen.

And if he was born in Kenya to a woman who cannot transmit citizenship under the laws at the time?

It doesn’t matter how old she was. If he was born in Hawaii then he is a US citizen, regardless of his parents’ status. But let's just say that even if he wasn’t, the law in question was made retroactive by Congress, all the way back to 1952. So that means Barack’s mom did qualify as a US citizen, and Barack would qualify as a “natural-born citizen” regardless of where he was born. Case closed.

Except for the fact that he gave up his citizenship when he was in Indonesia.

Nope, it hasn’t. State officials in Hawaii verified the authenticity of Obama’s birth certificate back in October.

No, they didn't.

Here's what they said. Notice how carefully the words were chosen:

[FONT=Georgia,Times New Roman,Times,serif]“Therefore, I as Director of Health for the State of Hawai‘i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, have personally seen and verified that the Hawai‘i State Department of Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures.”[/FONT]

Notice that no statement as to whether or not Obama is a natural born citizen is made...only that they have his "original birth certficate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures." He could still have been born in Kenya and have that birth registered through an "original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures".

Nope: [URL]http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html[/URL]

Factcheck is a Soros operation.

Did you take the time to find the interview and listen to the whole thing for yourself? The people doing the translating insist that Barack was born in Hawaii, but the guy just ingores it. I think the interviewer (some street preacher) was baiting Obama’s family and hoping to get something out of it to trip Obama up. He sure got what he wanted.

Yeah, right.

Yes, I read the original post. And the above two paragraphs clearly indicate why trying to placate the conspiracy crowd is pointless. Ok, so even if the evidence convinced you that Obama is a US citizen, in you're eyes he's still a Bilderberg/NWO pawn out to help Palestinian terrorists and bent on destroying America. Can you understand why he's not in a big hurry to appease your concerns over his birth certificate?

He'd better be in a BIG hurry. The Chief Justice has received all the evidence in large box and promised to review it. The evidence is in the court's hands in spite of evil efforts to thwart it.

He will be prosecuted.

 

[rcorlew]

Despite the fact that according to international treaties that any child being born to British citizens are British citizens themselves, Kenya was a British colony making Barack's father a British citizen, then by treaty Obama British regardless of where he was actually born, which was not in Hawaii, his birth certificate he produced was a 'registered' birth, not a 'certificate' of birth, the difference, when parents are abroad and have a baby, they must register that birth upon returning to the states.

Barack was then later adopted by Lolo Soetoro, making him Malaysian which he stated as fact on enrollment papers for school.

I don't know if it even matters, the case will never go anywhere, the president will not let it happen.

 

[HisdaughterJen]

Despite the fact that according to international treaties that any child being born to British citizens are British citizens themselves, Kenya was a British colony making Barack's father a British citizen, then by treaty Obama British regardless of where he was actually born, which was not in Hawaii, his birth certificate he produced was a 'registered' birth, not a 'certificate' of birth, the difference, when parents are abroad and have a baby, they must register that birth upon returning to the states.

Barack was then later adopted by Lolo Soetoro, making him Malaysian which he stated as fact on enrollment papers for school.

I don't know if it even matters, the case will never go anywhere, the president will not let it happen.

Indonesian...not Malaysian

We'll see about the case. It has been impeded by a guy working in the Supreme Court so that the justices have not been receiving the cases.

This attorney confronted Chief Justice Roberts a few days ago and he agreed to take all the evidence and review it.

If Roberts is an honest man, which I believe he is, he will do as he said.

There is no way you can see all of that evidence and NOT do something.

 

[NumberOneSon]

Ok Jen, you raise some valid points. I'm out of my league on this one. Guess we'll see what happens.

In Christ,

Acts6:5

 

[hiscosmicgoldfish]

The rest will be tested.

Ezek 38 and Joel 2 are describing the same army. It is definitely future.

Not necessarily, Joel 2 is about the day of the Lord.. and says ‘like’.. Ezekiel 38-39 is a specific scenario, with specific events, like using weapons as fire-wood.. I don’t know how you could wriggle out of that one.. as tanks and helicopter wrecks and metal AK47’ s are not likely to provide good firewood.
Unless they just use the stocks of the AK47.

 

[HisdaughterJen]

Not necessarily, Joel 2 is about the day of the Lord.. and says ‘like’.. Ezekiel 38-39 is a specific scenario, with specific events, like using weapons as fire-wood.. I don’t know how you could wriggle out of that one.. as tanks and helicopter wrecks and metal AK47’ s are not likely to provide good firewood.
Unless they just use the stocks of the AK47.

I've heard that the russians are building tanks and things out of Lignostone, which can be burned/used for fuel.

 

[HisdaughterJen]

Ok Jen, you raise some valid points. I'm out of my league on this one. Guess we'll see what happens.

In Christ,

Acts6:5

Hey, I don't know everything and you have pointed out my errors plenty of times but the allegations in this situation are alarming and there is physical evidence of crimes and fraud taking place.

If the Supreme Court adheres to the Law and does something, it could start a race war (which is predicted by the Boer prophet (who had gift of prophecy) to occur right about now).
Think about everything that will be reversed. The two massive bailouts, the executive orders, the cabinet positions.

I just hope that it's time for God to step in because everything is a mess.

There's no assurances that America won't be destroyed before Christ comes. Israel is the only one who has that assurance.

 

[Texas Lynn]

Conspiracy theorist?

His "birth certificate" that he posted on his website is a forgery and has been PROVEN to be so by more than one expert.

He refuses to release his original birth certificate out of Hawaii. Why?
Is it because it shows that he was not born there but rather registered there having been born somewhere else?

He could save himself a lot of money on the teams of lawyers he's using and silence the "conspiracy theorists", as YOU call them, by releasing his birth certificate. There is a reason why he is not doing so. The silence is deafening.

Is that the same "expert" that saw Elvis at Burger King in Kalamazoo, Michigan?

I mean...look, the whole world is laughing at the "birther" conspiracy folks and for good reason.

 

[Texas Lynn]

He traveled to Pakistan when Americans weren't allowed to travel there so what countries passport did he use?

Pakistan's been our ally and client state since the CENTO Treaty about 1949. I'm not aware of Americans being restricted from going there since then, but I could be mistaken. We backed the conservative Mohammed Zia as well as the liberal Bhuttos as it suited us and it's been pro-American until the rise of the Taliban (which gained power if Afghanistan but started in schools in Pakistan).

freerepublic

AKA conspiracy world headquarters...

Factcheck is a Soros operation.

All roads lead to Soros to the tinfoil hat brigade.

The Chief Justice has received all the evidence in large box and promised to review it. The evidence is in the court's hands in spite of evil efforts to thwart it.

Yeah, right. They get a lot of crank mail. Just sometimes it gets hand delivered.

He will be prosecuted.

Soros? Obama? Roberts?

Or the guy who gave Roberts the mysterious box? He's probably ovedue for a hit and run by the Men in Black, don'tcha know.

 

[Texas Lynn]

I've heard that the russians are building tanks and things out of Lignostone, which can be burned/used for fuel.

Is that like Legos?

 

[HisdaughterJen]

Here is the proof complete with evidence attached:

http://defendourfreedoms.org/letterHolder.htm

It's not a conspiracy and it's not a joke.

The men and women serving in the military have sworn an oath to uphold the Constitution of the USA. They have "standing" in a court of Law to file this lawsuit against Obama and force him to prove his Constitutional eligibility to be the President. If they carry out Obama's orders and it's determined that he is illegally/unconstitutionally operating as the president, they could be court-martialed for obeying him because they did not protect and defend the Constitution that Obama is allegedly trampling all over as their fraudulent "Commander in Chief". Do you understand that?

The man has to prove that he is Constitutionally eligible to be the president which he REFUSES to do. He must answer to the people.

 

[hiscosmicgoldfish]

I've heard that the russians are building tanks and things out of Lignostone, which can be burned/used for fuel.

What, don't they have central heating in Israel? They have to sit around a burning russian tank to keep warm..

 

[HisdaughterJen]

What, don't they have central heating in Israel? They have to sit around a burning russian tank to keep warm..

Well, if they are hiding in the wilderness from the anti-christ, they certainly might.

Remember, too, that after Christ comes, they "beat their swords into plowshares." It's not unreasonable to conclude that instead of letting the weapons rust or whatever, they find good, peaceful uses for them.

 

[hiscosmicgoldfish]

Well, if they are hiding in the wilderness from the anti-christ, they certainly might.

Remember, too, that after Christ comes, they "beat their swords into plowshares." It's not unreasonable to conclude that instead of letting the weapons rust or whatever, they find good, peaceful uses for them.

'beating swords into plowshares' is a metaphore for the christian era.. and after .. the eternal.. got nout to do with the israelis..

 

[gracechick]

Because the conspiracy theorists are not credible.

Perhaps, but have you truely ask the Lord what is happening in our government and the world. You may find it most interesting as some of us here have...
Almost reminds me of the place in the US where one can literally be in at least three different states at one time.

 

[gracechick]

Despite the fact that according to international treaties that any child being born to British citizens are British citizens themselves, Kenya was a British colony making Barack's father a British citizen, then by treaty Obama British regardless of where he was actually born, which was not in Hawaii, his birth certificate he produced was a 'registered' birth, not a 'certificate' of birth, the difference, when parents are abroad and have a baby, they must register that birth upon returning to the states.

Barack was then later adopted by Lolo Soetoro, making him Malaysian which he stated as fact on enrollment papers for school.

I don't know if it even matters, the case will never go anywhere, the president will not let it happen.

Another interesting twist

 

[hiscosmicgoldfish]

Another interesting twist

Obama isn't British.. he's Irish.

 

[Texas Lynn]

Here is the proof complete with evidence attached:

http://defendourfreedoms.org/letterHolder.htm

It's not a conspiracy and it's not a joke.

The men and women serving in the military have sworn an oath to uphold the Constitution of the USA. They have "standing" in a court of Law to file this lawsuit against Obama and force him to prove his Constitutional eligibility to be the President. If they carry out Obama's orders and it's determined that he is illegally/unconstitutionally operating as the president, they could be court-martialed for obeying him because they did not protect and defend the Constitution that Obama is allegedly trampling all over as their fraudulent "Commander in Chief". Do you understand that?

The man has to prove that he is Constitutionally eligible to be the president which he REFUSES to do. He must answer to the people.

Those men have what appears to be a form of paranoid schizophrenia brought on by PTSD. Some take Lexapro, some sling conspiracy theories.

 

[Texas Lynn]

What, don't they have central heating in Israel? They have to sit around a burning russian tank to keep warm..

Or burning Palestinians. It's like Texas in climate; central heat's not a great need there, just like central air's not in Nunavit.

 

[Texas Lynn]

Perhaps, but have you truely ask the Lord what is happening in our government and the world. You may find it most interesting as some of us here have...

Why is it when we talk to the Lord it's called praying but when the Lord talks to us we're called crazy?" (Lily Tomlin)

Almost reminds me of the place in the US where one can literally be in at least three different states at one time.

There's several of those. There's one with four corners of New Mexico, Arizona, Utah, and Colorado on the Navajo Rez. The ones saying Obama's not a citizen though are in a state of confusion.