Some honest answers please...

[dad]

The angel did not even speak about the Genesis myths at all in that verse.

Which making of earth and heaven did you think he was talking about?

 

[Subduction Zone]

The bible and evolution are mutually exclusive. You thought it took millions of years for God to make woman out of a bone?

All that means is that some parts of the Bible are not meant to be taken literally. Just because it is in the Bible does not mean that it has to be right. You then run into trouble because of the hundreds of self contradictions in the Bible.

God said multiply and set it up that babies took so long to grow. That has nothing to do with evolution.

Funny, you can't find any support for that in the Bible. At best you will only be able to quote out of context.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Which making of earth and heaven did you think he was talking about?

Well, since the Genesis story is a myth clearly not that version.

It is such a pity that you do not realize that people often use poetic language when speaking. What a dull drab world you must live in.

 

[lesliedellow]

You thought it took millions of years for God to make woman out of a bone?

"And they two shall be one flesh," is the point of that story.

God said multiply and set it up that babies took so long to grow. That has nothing to do with evolution.

You are dodging the question. Is each individual person the special creation of God, or not?

 

[dad]

All that means is that some parts of the Bible are not meant to be taken literally.

So we'll get back to you to know what is what?

Just because it is in the Bible does not mean that it has to be right.

Just because you post something, does not mean that it has to be right.

You then run into trouble because of the hundreds of self contradictions in the Bible.

All of which are in your head.

Funny, you can't find any support for that in the Bible. At best you will only be able to quote out of context.

For what? That babies are how we multiply?

 

[dad]

Well, since the Genesis story is a myth clearly not that version.

We'll ask you to overrule what angels say now?

 

[dad]

"And they two shall be one flesh," is the point of that story.

That record of creation includes the fact men and women (that would be after the woman was made of course) were to be one unit or family together. In no way does that mean Eve did not get made by God from a bone of Adam..or that it took millions of years.

You are dodging the question. Is each individual person the special creation of God, or not?

Not one made creation week!

 

[lesliedellow]

Not one made creation week!

You are still dodging the question.

 

[Subduction Zone]

So we'll get back to you to know what is what?

Please dad, you lost this one long ao.

Just because you post something, does not mean that it has to be right.

That is true, that is why I try to make sure that what I post can be supported by evidence, Unlike you. You are in a race with AV for "Most often wrong".

All of which are in your head.

Wrong again dad. You still have no answer to the hundreds found right here:
BibViz Project - Bible Contradictions, Misogyny, Violence, Inaccuracies interactively visualized

For what? That babies are how we multiply?

So you can't even find anything in the Bible to support your claim? Amazing defeat for dad!

 

[Subduction Zone]

We'll ask you to overrule what angels say now?

The angel that you referred to did not say anything about the Genesis myth.

By the way, you do realize that the Bible was written by man, don't you?

 

[dad]

You are still dodging the question.

Every baby born to Adam and Eve was special. Every one born since. Creation of man and the heavens was done so that special folks could live here. One cannot conflate babies that resulted from Adam and Even being created, with Adam and Eve's creation.

 

[dad]

The angel that you referred to did not say anything about the Genesis myth.

By the way, you do realize that the Bible was written by man, don't you?

You realize angels are not made by man? You realize no one would ask you what the angel meant who talked of God making heaven and earth?

 

[dad]

That is true, that is why I try to make sure that what I post can be supported by evidence,

We see that.

Wrong again dad. You still have no answer to the hundreds found right here:

Yes. I do.

So you can't even find anything in the Bible to support your claim?

God talked of the fruits of Eve's womb. You thought they were what..bananas?

 

[lesliedellow]

Every baby born to Adam and Eve was special. Every one born since. Creation of man and the heavens was done so that special folks could live here. One cannot conflate babies that resulted from Adam and Even being created, with Adam and Eve's creation.

Let us try again. Is every person born today both:

a.) The special creation of God, and
b.) The result of a physical process lasting nine months.

If they are, why are divine origin and physical origin supposed to be mutually exclusive?

 

[AV1611VET]

So how do you set about making that say something other than it does say?

I don't.

It says what it means and means what it says.

Maintain that Jesus forgot to add, "and so will everybody who does not endure to the end?"

It is also good advice for those in the Tribulation, where this verse will have its greatest impact.

For those unregenerate souls contemplating taking the Mark, it will serve as a very strong warning not to.

 

[Subduction Zone]

We see that.

Well that's good.

Yes. I do.

Strange, you don't seem to be able to answer any of them.

God talked of the fruits of Eve's womb. You thought they were what..bananas?

Nope, Bible verses are not "God talking". You dodged a question of mine. Man wrote the Bible in case you forgot. And Eve is merely a fictional character in an allegory at best.

 

[Subduction Zone]

You realize angels are not made by man? You realize no one would ask you what the angel meant who talked of God making heaven and earth?

Again, it does not matter. The angel did not speak of your Genesis myth. You failed by assuming that he/she was yet there is nothing in that verse that leads to that conclusion. If you can't even understand your Bible when interpreted literally how are you going to understand it when interpreted properly?

 

[juvenissun]

Let us try again. Is every person born today both:

a.) The special creation of God, and
b.) The result of a physical process lasting nine months.

If they are, why are divine origin and physical origin supposed to be mutually exclusive?

It seems you are interested in this issue:

a. Yes.
b. Yes.

They are not exclusive, but the origins are NOT RELATED TO each other.
The physical body of human is a vehicle for the individual whom God created. After a period of time, the vehicle failed, and the individual transformed.

 

[juvenissun]

I would like to know some things from fello Christians...

Why is it that creationism vs evolution, flood vs no-flood, are concidered so important to the faith.

If you are a creationist,would you loose your faith if evolution was proven true tommorow? How would it change the way you see God?

What about you evolutionists? What if creationism was proven? Would you loose your faith? Would it change the way you see God?

What about the flood?

What if it happened?

What if it didn't?

This is not bait for an argument, I am really curious.

You lost the control of your thread since the first page. Why don't you make a summary about this thread and claim an end to it?

 

[Subduction Zone]

You lost the control of your thread since the first page. Why don't you make a summary about this thread and claim an end to it?

Probably an impossible request. Didn't you notice that this is another AV necro-thread?