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solid archaeological proof of The prophet Isaiah?

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Archaeologist are not trying to prove Greek Mythology is real history.

You know Wyatt found the Greek Mythology buried in a sanddune 3,7 miles from Antarctica. He has video on it, but it was in too bad condition so immediately when he was lifting it his antarctic guide dogs pumped him and everything shattered to zillion pieces that polar bears immediately ate. Such a loss.

But no to worry you can buy exact replicas from Wyatt Museum for 4,99$
 
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You know Wyatt found the Greek Mythology buried in a sanddune 3,7 miles from Antarctica. He has video on it, but it was in too bad condition so immediately when he was lifting it his antarctic guide dogs pumped him and everything shattered to zillion pieces that polar bears immediately ate. Such a loss.

But no to worry you can buy exact replicas from Wyatt Museum for 4,99$

Wasn't it PT Barnum who said "a sucker is born ever minute"?

It hurts my heart that adults could be so deceived by shysters like Wyatt or Hayseed Stevens. I mean we are taught to expect Christians to be wise.
 
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You know Wyatt found the Greek Mythology buried in a sanddune 3,7 miles from Antarctica. He has video on it, but it was in too bad condition so immediately when he was lifting it his antarctic guide dogs pumped him and everything shattered to zillion pieces that polar bears immediately ate. Such a loss.

But no to worry you can buy exact replicas from Wyatt Museum for 4,99$
What if someone did that to you? You would report it as flaming. But since the guy is dead you think its right to flame and accuse him (with fake news as your source).

Yeah, not many have. Funny that for a place to hold all of Wyatt`s great discoveries. Which they for some reason do not advertise. Also museum is open only for those with appointment (presumably so anyone too critical can be denied entry)

At least they are begging for donations so everyone is free to contribute to continue this hoax.

PLEASE HELP US KEEP THE MUSEUM OPEN TO SHARE THE DISCOVERIES BY CONSIDERING A ONE TIME OR MONTHLY CONTRIBUTION TO
WYATT ARCHAEOLOGICAL RESEARCH.


People should really consider helping those people otherwise they may have to find honest work instead of living on legacy of fraud.



Links to what ? The guy never found anything. There is no links to his "discoveries". There is no discoveries.

It is not up to me to prove the negative. You assert that Wyatt found something there is zero evidence of so it is up to you to post some proof the guy was something more than hot air.

And all we get is .....more hot air.
well you said that no place existed, and a simple good search revealed that as wrong. Again if you wish to debate this further, call the museam. Tell them what you told me. They would know better than a fake new site.
 
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it's very big of you to slander and gossip about someone you don't even know, anonymously in the internet with strangers. I am highly impressed. What if someone did that to you? You would report it as flaming. But since the guy is dead you think its right to flame and accuse him (with fake news as your source). I feel at this point it is important to post some verses about using our tongue in a wholesome manner....

here is a bible study about gossip:
What Does the Bible Say About Gossip?

also this bible study about rudeness:
What Does the Bible Say About Being Rude?


well you said that no place existed, and a simple good search revealed that as wrong. Again if you wish to debate this further, call the museam. Tell them what you told me. They would know better than a fake new site.

Wyatt's death doesn't change the fact that he was a fraud who bilked people out of their money or that he was a lying shyster.

  1. FAQ :: Was Ron Wyatt an archeological fraud? - Rapture Ready
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    was either a fabricator or he was delusional, but whatever the case may be, he was clearly one of the greatest frauds the field of Bible prophecy has ever seen. Wyatt’s years of research may amount to nothing more than garbage, however, he did help prove that some Christians are …

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    DANGER, DANGER, DANGER – beware of the venom of Ron Wyatt! Lies are like a cobra’s venom, and a cobra can rise up to strike one in the face! Ron Wyatt died August 4, 1999, but wittingly or unwittingly there are others carrying on his evil agenda! BEWARE, BEWARE, BEWARE, the doctrine of Ron Wyatt is the antithesis (opposition) of TWO ...
 
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well you said that no place existed, and a simple good search revealed that as wrong.

I said no place existed where his grand discoveries are shown. Because he does not have any. A booth selling his fantasy books and begging for donations hardly count.

Again. Does it not seem in any way odd that the guy who found every biblical treasure under the stars only has his name associated with his own "museum" where they are just selling his books without proof of any famous physical objects he supposedly found ?

Is there a particular reason you are in denial about this ? Just because you like the guy ? Because it stirs your adventurous spirit ?

It hurts my heart that adults could be so deceived by shysters like Wyatt or Hayseed Stevens. I mean we are taught to expect Christians to be wise.

There as much evidence of that as there are of Wyatts great discoveries. Indeed, it is just that much easier to con people when you mix it with stuff that requires "faith".
 
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I said no place existed where his grand discoveries are shown. Because he does not have any. A booth selling his fantasy books and begging for donations hardly count.

Again. Does it not seem in any way odd that the guy who found every biblical treasure under the stars only has his name associated with his own "museum" where they are just selling his books without proof of any famous physical objects he supposedly found ?

Is there a particular reason you are in denial about this ? Just because you like the guy ? Because it stirs your adventurous spirit ?



There as much evidence of that as there are of Wyatts great discoveries. Indeed, it is just that much easier to con people when you mix it with stuff that requires "faith".
yes and I proved you wrong, so unless you add more facts to this discussion I guess we are done. So take care. Message me if you have some facts to add to your slander.

also I edited this post, please reply when you have time:
solid archaeological proof of The prophet Isaiah?
 
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it's very big of you to slander and gossip about someone you don't even know, anonymously in the internet with strangers. I am highly impressed.

How is it slander to point out that the guy had zero proof of any of his discoveries ?

You still have been unable to point any actual great find of his that is on display somewhere. We are all waiting. Tell us where we can see a great original Wyatt discovery on display from his great profilic career ?

Best you could do is to link his invitation only, not advertising any great Wyatt find, begging for donations , selling his fantasy books "museum" DENIAL IS STRONK
 
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yes and I proved you wrong, so unless you add more facts to this discussion I guess we are done.

Guess so. If you ever post one fact about artifacts Wyatt supposedly found it will be the first one in this thread.
 
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I said no place existed where his grand discoveries are shown. Because he does not have any. A booth selling his fantasy books and begging for donations hardly count.

Again. Does it not seem in any way odd that the guy who found every biblical treasure under the stars only has his name associated with his own "museum" where they are just selling his books without proof of any famous physical objects he supposedly found ?

Is there a particular reason you are in denial about this ? Just because you like the guy ? Because it stirs your adventurous spirit ?



There as much evidence of that as there are of Wyatts great discoveries. Indeed, it is just that much easier to con people when you mix it with stuff that requires "faith".

The Ron Wyatt Museum simply carries on the fraud. Its Ron Wyatt's legacy to them.. Its how they earn a living.

Meanwhile, Wyatt claimed he found the blood of Jesus and it was "alive".

They found the Ark of the Covenant
 
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How is it slander to point out that the guy had zero proof of any of his discoveries ?

You still have been unable to point any actual great find of his that is on display somewhere. We are all waiting. Tell us where we can see a great original Wyatt discovery on display from his great profilic career ?

Best you could do is to link his invitation only, not advertising any great Wyatt find, begging for donations , selling his fantasy books "museum" DENIAL IS STRONK
sir lets look at the positive statements. You are the one who brought up the topic of wyatt. When you did you said he was a fraud. So the burden of proof lies on the one making the positive claims. I have said only that I disagree with that allegation, and asked you to prove it. And yes, it's slander. You are supposed to communicate with a person first before talking about them behind their back. Since he is dead, I recommended calling his organization. Since you don't want to do that, it appears you simply want to gossip and slander and not learn about the facts of the matter.

I feel at this point it is important to post some verses about using our tongue in a wholesome manner....

here is a bible study about gossip:
What Does the Bible Say About Gossip?

also this bible study about rudeness:
What Does the Bible Say About Being Rude?
 
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sir lets look as the positive statements. You are the one who brought up the topic of wyatt. When you did you said he was a fraud. So the burden of proof lies on the one making the positive claims. I have said only that I disagree with that allegation, and asked you to prove it. And yes, it's slander. You are supposed to communicate with a person first before talking about them behind their back. Since he is dead, I recommended calling his organization. Since you don't want to do that, it appears you simply want to gossip and slander and not learn about the facts of the matter.

I feel at this point it is important to post some verses about using our tongue in a wholesome manner....

here is a bible study about gossip:
What Does the Bible Say About Gossip?

also this bible study about rudeness:
What Does the Bible Say About Being Rude?

Do you as a Christian support swindlers? Ron Wyatt was a swindler.

Ron Wyatt, the "Indiana Jones" of the SDA Church ...
https://www.christiancourier.com/articles/1511-ron-wyatt-the-indiana-jones-of-the-sda...
 
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@createdtoworship

Ron Wyatt Exposed
His work has been debunked thoroughly by professional archaeologists and respected biblical scholars.

On August 8, 1996, Joe Zias, Curator of Anthropology/Archaeology with the Israel Antiquities Authority (Jerusalem), issued the following statement:

“Mr. Ron Wyatt is neither an archaeologist nor has he ever carried out a legally licensed excavation in Israel or Jerusalem. In order to excavate one must have at least a BA in archaeology which he does not possess despite his claims to the contrary.

We are aware of his claims which border on the absurd as they have no scientific basis whatsoever nor have they ever been published in a professional journal. They fall into the category of trash which one finds in tabloids such as the National Enquirer, Sun, etc. It’s amazing that anyone would believe them...” (Joe Zias, former curator for Anthropology/Archaeology at Israel Antiquities Authority Weighs in on Ron Wyatt's Archaeolgical claims).

Wyatt’s religious affiliation was with the Seventh-day Adventist sect. Ironically, the most thorough exposé of the gentleman’s claims was produced by two scholars of his own denomination — Russell R. and Colin D. Standish.

The Standish brothers were identical twins from New South Wales, Australia. Russell (who died in 2008) was a physician, hospital administrator, and a medical missionary. Colin is the founder and president of Hartland College in Virginia.

Both were ordained as ministers in the conservative branch of SDA church. They have been prolific writers, co-authoring numerous books, among which is Holy Relics or Revelation — Recent Astounding Archaeological Claims Evaluated (hereafter designated as HRR).

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Ron Wyatt, the "Indiana Jones" of the SDA Church
 
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When you did you said he was a fraud. So the burden of proof lies on the one making the positive claims.

So by your logic when I say Wyatt has not a single shred of evidence to verify any of his supposed discoveries then the burden of proof is on me to show the negative and nonexistent instead of his museum or legacy foundation or whatever to show that he actually found something that they can show us.

Do you realize how illogical and daft this sounds ?
 
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So by your logic when I say Wyatt has not a single shred of evidence to verify any of his supposed discoveries then the burden of proof is on me to show the negative and nonexistent instead of his museum or legacy foundation or whatever to show that he actually found something that they can show us.

Do you realize how illogical and daft this sounds ?
sir I showed an entire museum of his work, and asked that you contact them and share your views of his fraud allegations.
 
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sir I showed an entire museum of his work, and asked that you contact them and share your views of his fraud allegations.

Unnecessary. I know they are frauds. You , however seem to think they are legit despite every evidence to contrary and you yourself said you were a fan of Wyatt.

You call them and ask what great artifact they can show you that the late Wyatt left them. This should not be a great burden since you yourself told us how you have made a research on the issue and think Wyatt is great.

So why not call them and ask for a tour ? Would be great to see Pharaoh`s chariot when he pursued Moses and was drowned, or ark of the covenant right ?

But of course you will not do it. You will think of some great excuse why you should not do it so as not to shatter your illusions.
 
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