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People lie against Faith Alone to say it is a promotion of living in sin. It is the very reason, as Paul taught Faith Alone in Galatians that He had to stop and ask if Christ is a Promoter of Sin.
It doesn't contrive within the heart of man.
This accusation is nearly 2000 years old.
Man is saved through faith and not by works (Ephesians 2:8,9; Titus 3:5; 2 Timothy 1:9); yet genuine faith is vindicated, substantiated, evidenced by works (James 2:14-24).Sure... because God had said He would meet our needs. So if we stand in expectation (that is a passive action) then expecting Him to meet those needs because we heard His promise in the Word is faith.
It always amazes me how often I have seen folks have a problem reconciling what Paul said and what James said. But the great faith chapter, Hebrews 11, gives example after example of hearing and doing and then that combination being "faith." Noach heard God about the flood and built the boat. Abraham heard God about moving and he moved. Moses heard God about the rod and he held it out. Hear and do..
Blessings.
Ken
OK, I showed you several things that Christ said we must do or we go to hell, and you are still in denial of them. You indicate we are saying Christ is a promoter of sin, but it is not the truth, we are saying just the opposite Christ has told us if we don't act tight, then we go to hell. I personally don't see that as him promoting sin but saying we need to have some degree of goodness and not live how we like.
But as always with OSAS, they wan to live as they like so...
Man is saved through faith and not by works (Ephesians 2:8,9; Titus 3:5; 2 Timothy 1:9); yet genuine faith is vindicated, substantiated, evidenced by works (James 2:14-24).
It is through faith "in Christ alone" (and not by the merits of our works) that we are justified on account of Christ (Romans 3:24; 5:1; 5:9); yet the faith that justifies is never alone (solitary, unfruitful, barren) if it is genuine (James 2:14-24). *Perfect Harmony*
How about a serious one.
Was Jesus Life, Death, Burial, Resurrection and Ascension sufficient to Save you and Lead you into Unity with HIM?
It's a Binary Yes or No
Matthew 5:37
After all... 1 Corinthians 1:18
Believe. That’s the work of God. He takes care of the rest. He supplies the Gospel Workman’s needs.Yes, of course it is, if we let it, we have to do as he said in order to make that work, have true faith, not just say we do. i told you your tricky little questions designed to say "if you disagree with me you need to feel guilty fro saying christ isn't sufficient" aren't going to work here. Go try them on some poor seeker that is looking for the truth, suck them into the lie, and see how that works out for you. I'd be ashamed, as well as scared to death to do that to those sincerely seeking God.
Now it's your turn... Can we ignore what Christ told us we must do in order to make it to heaven and still get to heaven because we are saved no matter what? Is that in line with what you call faith.
I answered yes or no, so again, now it's your turn.
Not sure what you said that is really any different than what I said. We hear God and we obey... or act... or stand in expectation (depending on what He said) and the fact that we heard and acted is faith. Anything beyond that is religion adding to God's word.Man is saved through faith and not by works (Ephesians 2:8,9; Titus 3:5; 2 Timothy 1:9); yet genuine faith is vindicated, substantiated, evidenced by works (James 2:14-24).
It is through faith "in Christ alone" (and not by the merits of our works) that we are justified on account of Christ (Romans 3:24; 5:1; 5:9); yet the faith that justifies is never alone (solitary, unfruitful, barren) if it is genuine (James 2:14-24). *Perfect Harmony*
This reminds me of a wonderful hymn:He loved us first. Jesus made the first move. His Love is the first Work. Our Response is simply response to His Love which has been manifested as True.
It's like being given a lottery ticket that is a guaranteed winner. We simply need to grasp it, take it, hold on to it firmly and not let this world pry it from our hands..
Once the Father fully draws us... it becomes a matter of the world trying to pry us from His hands.. (Good luck with that ) Once the Father Grasps us, the ticket is no longer a carnal matter. We're simply waiting for the payout.
This reminds me of a wonderful hymn:
I sought the Lord, and afterward I knew
He moved my soul to seek Him, seeking me;
It was not I that found, O Savior true;
no, I was found of Thee.
Thou didst reach forth Thy hand and mine enfold;
I walked and sank not on the storm-vexed sea;
'Twas not so much that I on Thee took hold,
as Thou, dear Lord, on me.
I find, I walk, I love; but O the whole
of love is but my answer, Lord, to Thee!
For Thou wert long beforehand with my soul;
always Thou lovedst me.
Were it not for God's initiating, sustaining, and committing to save His people, none of us would have a single shred of hope.
And what’s the measurement for goodness? Is Christ the standard because if he is then it will be a struggle for any human being to measure up on their own works. Doesn’t matter how much better they think they are then the next person unless they have attained perfection, they have failed. So that would put them in the same boat as all of the other’s who have failed, including myself. In which we all are people who need Jesus because we weren’t capable to do it by our own doing. Now is that an excuse to not have any remorse in the areas that each of us struggle with? Absolutely not.... does it mean we should ask for forgiveness, of course we should... but to think we are somehow better or superior to anybody because our understanding may be different from another’s about scripture or we feel like we don’t sin as much as the next person so therefore we have a step up is a rather weird way of thinking to me. And it could just be me that I don’t quite understand as much as I should yet.OK, I showed you several things that Christ said we must do or we go to hell, and you are still in denial of them. You indicate we are saying Christ is a promoter of sin, but it is not the truth, we are saying just the opposite Christ has told us if we don't act tight, then we go to hell. I personally don't see that as him promoting sin but saying we need to have some degree of goodness and not live how we like.
But as always with OSAS, they wan to live as they like so...
Said nowhere in the Bible.Faith Alone is our part.
Everything is God's part friend. Faith, works, salvation, sanctification.Salvation and Sanctification is HIS PART.
Something we can agree on. Amen.All Glory Goes to Jesus!
Said nowhere in the Bible.
And if I have prophetic powers, and understand all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have all faith, so as to remove mountains, but have not love, I am nothing.
Everything is God's part friend. Faith, works, salvation, sanctification.
Something we can agree on. Amen.
and Paul a false teacher?Do we call our Blessed, Lord God a liar?
And what’s the measurement for goodness? Is Christ the standard because if he is then it will be a struggle for any human being to measure up on their own works. Doesn’t matter how much better they think they are then the next person unless they have attained perfection, they have failed. So that would put them in the same boat as all of the other’s who have failed, including myself. In which we all are people who need Jesus because we weren’t capable to do it by our own doing. Now is that an excuse to not have any remorse in the areas that each of us struggle with? Absolutely not.... does it mean we should ask for forgiveness, of course we should... but to think we are somehow better or superior to anybody because our understanding may be different from another’s about scripture or we feel like we don’t sin as much as the next person so therefore we have a step up is a rather weird way of thinking to me. And it could just be me that I don’t quite understand as much as I should yet.
Ananias and Sapphira confessed God was better than the world, but they were free not to act on it. No compulsion to do any of those deeds you listed.Yup, he has to make a choice to believe God, love God, trust God, obey God's commandments, and do good works, which are all ultimately attributable to God.