• Starting today August 7th, 2024, in order to post in the Married Couples, Courting Couples, or Singles forums, you will not be allowed to post if you have your Marital status designated as private. Announcements will be made in the respective forums as well but please note that if yours is currently listed as Private, you will need to submit a ticket in the Support Area to have yours changed.

  • CF has always been a site that welcomes people from different backgrounds and beliefs to participate in discussion and even debate. That is the nature of its ministry. In view of recent events emotions are running very high. We need to remind people of some basic principles in debating on this site. We need to be civil when we express differences in opinion. No personal attacks. Avoid you, your statements. Don't characterize an entire political party with comparisons to Fascism or Communism or other extreme movements that committed atrocities. CF is not the place for broad brush or blanket statements about groups and political parties. Put the broad brushes and blankets away when you come to CF, better yet, put them in the incinerator. Debate had no place for them. We need to remember that people that commit acts of violence represent themselves or a small extreme faction.
  • We hope the site problems here are now solved, however, if you still have any issues, please start a ticket in Contact Us

Slim pickin's

H

hypnotism

Guest
My confidence in the solidity of relationships is shaken, if not shattered because of mt divorce. It's really affecting the type of person I'd be looking for, and probably not in a good way.
Good girlfriend material is often not the same as good wife material. The thing about the way we live, that is without wise involvement from our elders, is that we stumble over things we could have been guided away from. Things like marrying the wrong sort of person. For me and my experience that would be almost any woman from California.
 
Upvote 0
H

hypnotism

Guest
So why slim pickins?
Rich, I want to clear away one issue first. There are seven or more types of BC a woman can use. She can use two of them at once for total protection. So the issue of "unintended" offspring does not have to enter into the equation unless she wants them to.

Many men are not going to be interested in a woman until they have had sex with her. Many men even have the "three date and no sex good bye rule. " Some say the men will not be able to actually hear what a woman is saying until they have sex with her. Some men say they would not even talk to women if it were not necessary in order to have sex with them.

Is this depressing enough?
How about the other rule, "Never date single mothers.", because they have the healthy instincts that flnativegirl listed.

Committed relationships and marriage.
Consider that 20 to 30 percent of children are not the offspring of the male who is alleged to be their biological father.
Then lets add the huge divorce rate. Then lets add that the majority of divorces (at least in CA) are filed by women. Then lets add community property laws. Then lets add alimony laws. Then lets add the fact that in many states adultery is legal. So the man is running a real risk of getting into a contractual situation with a woman, having her violate the contract by having adultery with the neighbor and then having to pay her child support (for his children even though they do not live with him) and also alimony (sometimes for life) to the woman who broke the contract. This happened to two of my cousins. Consider the laws in Washington state where, if a man marries a woman with children, even though they clearly are not his, he is responsible for their support if there is a divorce.
(A man in WA can get stuck for some other mans child support if he just lives with a woman who has children - Male College students need to know this. House mate, just a renter, ha ha ha.)

Then let us add the profound disrespect American women have for men as a result of media conditioning.

There are huge reasons not to get married. My first thread on CF asked why don't some men get married, and I got an earful.

Given all that it is amazing there are any pickins at all.
 
Upvote 0

dluvs2trvl

What You See Is What You Get!
Nov 9, 2006
29,104
2,092
Washington
✟61,536.00
Faith
Pentecostal
Marital Status
Married
So why slim pickins?
Rich, I want to clear away one issue first. There are seven or more types of BC a woman can use. She can use two of them at once for total protection. So the issue of "unintended" offspring does not have to enter into the equation unless she wants them to.

Many men are not going to be interested in a woman until they have had sex with her. Many men even have the "three date and no sex good bye rule. " Some say the men will not be able to actually hear what a woman is saying until they have sex with her. Some men say they would not even talk to women if it were not necessary in order to have sex with them.

Is this depressing enough?
How about the other rule, "Never date single mothers.", because they have the healthy instincts that flnativegirl listed.

The lets add that 20 to 30 percent of children are not the offspring of the male who is alleged to be their biological father.
Then lets add the huge divorce rate. Then lets add that the majority of divorces (at least in CA) are filed by women. Then lets add community property laws. Then lets add alimony laws. Then lets add the fact that in many states adultery is legal. So the man is running a real risk of getting into a contractual situation with a woman. Having her violate the contract by having adultery with the neighbor. Then forcing him to pay child support for his children even though they do not live with him. And Alimony to the woman who broke the contract. This happened to two of my cousins. There are huge reasons not to get married.

Given all that it is amazing there are any pickins at all.
Wow! Are you sure your name is hypnotism and not pessimism??? :doh:
 
Upvote 0

Gimpy

Senior Veteran
May 26, 2005
15,659
80
California
✟38,718.00
Faith
Christian
So why slim pickins?
Rich, I want to clear away one issue first. There are seven or more types of BC a woman can use. She can use two of them at once for total protection. So the issue of "unintended" offspring does not have to enter into the equation unless she wants them to.

Many men are not going to be interested in a woman until they have had sex with her. Many men even have the "three date and no sex good bye rule. " Some say the men will not be able to actually hear what a woman is saying until they have sex with her. Some men say they would not even talk to women if it were not necessary in order to have sex with them.

Is this depressing enough?
How about the other rule, "Never date single mothers.", because they have the healthy instincts that flnativegirl listed.

Committed relationships and marriage.
Consider that 20 to 30 percent of children are not the offspring of the male who is alleged to be their biological father.
Then lets add the huge divorce rate. Then lets add that the majority of divorces (at least in CA) are filed by women. Then lets add community property laws. Then lets add alimony laws. Then lets add the fact that in many states adultery is legal. So the man is running a real risk of getting into a contractual situation with a woman, having her violate the contract by having adultery with the neighbor and then having to pay her child support (for his children even though they do not live with him) and also alimony (sometimes for life) to the woman who broke the contract. This happened to two of my cousins. Consider the laws in Washington state where, if a man marries a woman with children, even though they clearly are not his, he is responsible for their support if there is a divorce.
(A man in WA can get stuck for some other mans child support if he just lives with a woman who has children - Male College students need to know this. House mate, just a renter, ha ha ha.)

Then let us add the profound disrespect American women have for men as a result of media conditioning.

There are huge reasons not to get married. My first thread on CF asked why don't some men get married, and I got an earful.

Given all that it is amazing there are any pickins at all.
I agree with you, as you seem to be mostly quoting book facts. But as Christians, we are supposed to be broken away from those conditions and have entirely different conditions completely, i.e. holy.
We arent supposed to be of this world, but I do know many who claim Christ, but live of this world. So, you are right, but you should be wrong.
 
Upvote 0

ido

Adios
May 7, 2007
30,938
2,308
✟71,288.00
Faith
Christian Seeker
Marital Status
Private
Politics
US-Green
Right. As a Christian, I have a source for everlasting hope. Therefore, I absolutely REFUSE to let go of the hope that there is a man out there that is not perfect, but is perfect for me. I don't think it's unreasonable and I refuse to take the romance out of falling in love and make relationships some fact-fest of psycho-babble. :p
 
Upvote 0

ido

Adios
May 7, 2007
30,938
2,308
✟71,288.00
Faith
Christian Seeker
Marital Status
Private
Politics
US-Green
Good girlfriend material is often not the same as good wife material. The thing about the way we live, that is without wise involvement from our elders, is that we stumble over things we could have been guided away from. Things like marrying the wrong sort of person. For me and my experience that would be almost any woman from California.
I wanted to add that I don't want to be "good girlfriend" material. I'm the marrying kind - thankyouverymuch!
 
Upvote 0

ido

Adios
May 7, 2007
30,938
2,308
✟71,288.00
Faith
Christian Seeker
Marital Status
Private
Politics
US-Green
So why slim pickins?
Rich, I want to clear away one issue first. There are seven or more types of BC a woman can use. She can use two of them at once for total protection. So the issue of "unintended" offspring does not have to enter into the equation unless she wants them to.

Many men are not going to be interested in a woman until they have had sex with her. Many men even have the "three date and no sex good bye rule. " Some say the men will not be able to actually hear what a woman is saying until they have sex with her. Some men say they would not even talk to women if it were not necessary in order to have sex with them.

Is this depressing enough?
How about the other rule, "Never date single mothers.", because they have the healthy instincts that flnativegirl listed.

Committed relationships and marriage.
Consider that 20 to 30 percent of children are not the offspring of the male who is alleged to be their biological father.
Then lets add the huge divorce rate. Then lets add that the majority of divorces (at least in CA) are filed by women. Then lets add community property laws. Then lets add alimony laws. Then lets add the fact that in many states adultery is legal. So the man is running a real risk of getting into a contractual situation with a woman, having her violate the contract by having adultery with the neighbor and then having to pay her child support (for his children even though they do not live with him) and also alimony (sometimes for life) to the woman who broke the contract. This happened to two of my cousins. Consider the laws in Washington state where, if a man marries a woman with children, even though they clearly are not his, he is responsible for their support if there is a divorce.
(A man in WA can get stuck for some other mans child support if he just lives with a woman who has children - Male College students need to know this. House mate, just a renter, ha ha ha.)

Then let us add the profound disrespect American women have for men as a result of media conditioning.

There are huge reasons not to get married. My first thread on CF asked why don't some men get married, and I got an earful.

Given all that it is amazing there are any pickins at all.
Hmmm...my nekked is sacred, so if a man rules me out because of a 3-date rule, I'm not going to be interested in him as a long-term potential anyway. BC is not fool-proof, by the way - I have a beautiful 5 yr old that is living proof of that.
 
Upvote 0

dluvs2trvl

What You See Is What You Get!
Nov 9, 2006
29,104
2,092
Washington
✟61,536.00
Faith
Pentecostal
Marital Status
Married
I'm not sure I understand what that means, AFT. Can you please 'splain it to me? :)
I'm not AFT :) but I think what he was trying to say is that when you are looking for a perfect partner there are times in your life when you might not be in the best frame of mind to make a good choice in a partner...so rather than making a bad choice - you realize that no choice right now (and not getting romantically involved with anyone at the moment) is the best decision...

Not sure that helped to explain it but I tried :)
 
Upvote 0

ido

Adios
May 7, 2007
30,938
2,308
✟71,288.00
Faith
Christian Seeker
Marital Status
Private
Politics
US-Green
I'm not AFT :) but I think what he was trying to say is that when you are looking for a perfect partner there are times in your life when you might not be in the best frame of mind to make a good choice in a partner...so rather than making a bad choice - you realize that no choice right now (and not getting romantically involved with anyone at the moment) is the best decision...

Not sure that helped to explain it but I tried :)
Ahh...gotcha! You just described me perfectly, if that's the case! ;)
 
Upvote 0

AirForceTeacher

King of the Wicker People
Feb 23, 2004
10,371
558
The south
✟35,617.00
Gender
Male
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Private
I'm not AFT :) but I think what he was trying to say is that when you are looking for a perfect partner there are times in your life when you might not be in the best frame of mind to make a good choice in a partner...so rather than making a bad choice - you realize that no choice right now (and not getting romantically involved with anyone at the moment) is the best decision...

Not sure that helped to explain it but I tried :)
It also means that you have to be ok with "any body is not better than nobody."
 
  • Like
Reactions: dluvs2trvl
Upvote 0