Six Florida church members die of COVID-19

[iluvatar5150]

Weren't you the one who was just telling me that I didn't understand the basic science involved? How's this condescension thing working out for you?

You don't understand the basic science.

Oh, this oughta be good.

 

[sfs]

So what's the accurate infomration about your chances of dying if you get covid?

If you are infected? Probably less than 1% (averaging across all ages and health conditions). Treatment has improved from early in the pandemic but delta probably makes people sicker, so that's been something like a wash.

To those who are pro-vaccine and I'm not saying I'm not.....but what do you really, REALLY believe the death rate is for those who get covid and do you not find it very, very strange that 6 of them would actually die when such percentages aren't being reflected that way in the general population?

I'm not sure I see the problem. The church seems to have a weekly attendance of several thousand, so six people dying is not too shocking if they've had a lot of infections.

 

[sfs]

You don't understand the basic science.

Doesn't it strike you as the least bit odd that you think you understand the science better than the scientists studying the virus?

 

[Jimmy D]

Doesn't it strike you as the least bit odd that you think you understand the science better than the scientists studying the virus?

 

[Bobber]

I'm not sure I see the problem. The church seems to have a weekly attendance of several thousand, so six people dying is not too shocking if they've had a lot of infections.

And IF they didn't have a lot of infections then you would find that very strange and worth asking the question what's going on?

 

[Brihaha]

It's depressing. If everybody on earth were as reasonable and emotionally regulated as the Taiwanese or Koreans, I don't think we'ld be seeing this lasting years.

The Asian people are community oriented. Americans are individual oriented. In other words, Asians care more about the community surviving than the individual. Americans seem to be all me me me, caring much more about the individual than the community. I reckon we're witnessing the disadvantages of individualism in America. Likely for another year or three.

 

[sfs]

And IF they didn't have a lot of infections then you would find that very strange and worth asking the question what's going on?

I'd find it somewhat curious, but that's a big if. Given how closely deaths have tracked infections throughout the pandemic and throughout the world, the odds are quite good that a fair number of people were infected.

 

[Ponderous Curmudgeon]

The Asian people are community oriented. Americans are individual oriented. In other words, Asians care more about the community surviving than the individual. Americans seem to be all me me me, caring much more about the individual than the community. I reckon we're witnessing the disadvantages of individualism in America. Likely for another year or three.

restate that as smaller communities with less history and you would be closer to my experience with American rural communities. I have a large Asian family in law and have observed the same dynamics amongst coworkers with local histories that go back to the growth of the local area. They both support each other, but have different experiences in what is needed to survive in empty vs already populated areas.

 

[variant]

Why isn't the flu considered a pandemic?

Lockdowns on businesses, which kill millions of jobs, are more damaging to human health and standard of living than COVID-19 is.

It was.

History of 1918 Flu Pandemic | Pandemic Influenza (Flu) | CDC

In fact if you looked up "Pandemic" in an encyclopedia it would probably mention one of the many flu pandemics.

See here:
pandemic | Description, Preparedness, & Historical Pandemics

Exact quote (I kid you not):

Throughout history, there have been many deadly pandemics, but the Black Death and the influenza pandemic of 1918–19 rank among the most lethal. The Black Death, which ravaged Europe between 1347 and 1351 and likely was caused by plague, killed roughly 25 million people. The influenza pandemic of 1918–19, or “Spanish flu,” claimed an estimated 20–40 million lives.

Florida never locked down businesses or the economy. Proving those extreme measures are irrational and unnecessary.

Your doomsday rhetoric was proven false over the last 12 months.

If you really cared about human life, you would stay up to date and informed and wouldn't need me to inform you on these very basic yet essential points.

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Florida is doing very poorly at the moment, so this part of your post makes you look uninformed.

 

[FireDragon76]

The Asian people are community oriented. Americans are individual oriented. In other words, Asians care more about the community surviving than the individual. Americans seem to be all me me me, caring much more about the individual than the community. I reckon we're witnessing the disadvantages of individualism in America. Likely for another year or three.

Sort of... Confucianism shouldn't be reduced to mere collectivism, as in a beehive, where individual uniqueness is erased and replaced with mindless drones. It's more correct to see Confucianism as relational, with Confucius principle moral axiom, "Whatever is hurtful to you, do not do to others", being emblematic of that.

 

[Bradskii]

Yeah, he does a bit. But he's a [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse] cat really...

I guess we're not allowed to mention 'Leave it to Beaver' then.