Sitting while Black

[CaDan]

And we have video.

St. Paul stun gun arrest: Police release skyway surveillance video | Minnesota Public Radio News

 

[CaDan]

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[CaDan]

"I spent almost an hour today sitting in the exact same chair where Chris Lollie was, typing on my laptop, and fiddling with my phone. Security never came up and asked me what I was doing there."

 

[PreachersWife2004]

"I spent almost an hour today sitting in the exact same chair where Chris Lollie was, typing on my laptop, and fiddling with my phone. Security never came up and asked me what I was doing there."

Probably because they've been instructed to NOT approach anyone anymore.

 

[CaDan]

Probably because they've been instructed to NOT approach anyone anymore.

Yup.

Notice also in the security video the white guy sitting in the same area who didn't get told to move along. It's like a view of white privilege so simple you can just see it.

 

[PreachersWife2004]

My word, he should've just shut his mouth.

 

[bhsmte]

"I spent almost an hour today sitting in the exact same chair where Chris Lollie was, typing on my laptop, and fiddling with my phone. Security never came up and asked me what I was doing there."

Considering the publicity this issue has received and the fact it has been shown this is a public place, I wouldn't expect security to approach anyone sitting in those chairs at this point, whether they are; white, brown, black, yellow or purple.

 

[MachZer0]

And we have video.

St. Paul stun gun arrest: Police release skyway surveillance video | Minnesota Public Radio News

Turns out he went after the cop's gun after all. Looks like it was a righteous bust

 

[PreachersWife2004]

Yup.

Notice also in the security video the white guy sitting in the same area who didn't get told to move along. It's like a view of white privilege so simple you can just see it.

Unless that white guy was an employee. The lady left after the second time, so I can only assume she wasn't an employee.

 

[PreachersWife2004]

Turns out he went after the cop's gun after all. Looks like it was a righteous bust

Wha? Time marker please. I missed that. Twice.

 

[CaDan]

My word, he should've just shut his mouth.

Why?

 

[MachZer0]

Wha? Time marker please. I missed that. Twice.

Right after the 45 second mark

 

[CaDan]

Turns out he went after the cop's gun after all. Looks like it was a righteous bust

As far as I can tell, that wasn't in the police reports. Strange they would have missed that.

 

[MachZer0]

This more and more looks like a planned setup

 

[PreachersWife2004]

Why?

He just kept digging his own hole. He was disrespectful. He was swearing (I know in some places THAT is illegal, ridiculous as it is) and he just kept on and on and he'd ask a question but never let the police answer. He FINALLY says "what do you want from me", and I just rolled my eyes at that, because he knew what she wanted from the get-go.

All I'm saying is that he did nothing to make this situation better.

As far as I can tell, that wasn't in the police reports. Strange they would have missed that.

Yeah, that would've been one of the big main points of the police report if that had happened.

 

[PreachersWife2004]

Right after the 45 second mark

Nope. He's barely moving for about 15 seconds before and after the 45 second mark.

 

[MachZer0]

He just kept digging his own hole. He was disrespectful. He was swearing (I know in some places THAT is illegal, ridiculous as it is) and he just kept on and on and he'd ask a question but never let the police answer. He FINALLY says "what do you want from me", and I just rolled my eyes at that, because he knew what she wanted from the get-go.

All I'm saying is that he did nothing to make this situation better.



Yeah, that would've been one of the big main points of the police report if that had happened.

All he had to do was show his ID, explain that it was his understanding that the seating area was public and explain why he was there. End of situation and everyone walks away

 

[bhsmte]

As far as I can tell, that wasn't in the police reports. Strange they would have missed that.

Correct, I can't recall the police report mentioning that, which is a pretty important point, don't ya think?

Also, if he went for the cops gun, they would have taken him down hard immediately and that didn't happen either.

I do think, the possibility exists, that Hollie was looking for something like this to happen and why he threatened to sue right away and had two cell phones.

I am still of the position, the bank and security guard are to blame for this one and actions of the 2nd cop should be examined as well. It shouldn't be too hard to have Hollie's attorney ask for security tapes on that area before this event happened and see if the guards ask people to leave.

 

[CaDan]

He just kept digging his own hole. He was disrespectful. He was swearing (I know in some places THAT is illegal, ridiculous as it is) and he just kept on and on and he'd ask a question but never let the police answer. He FINALLY says "what do you want from me", and I just rolled my eyes at that, because he knew what she wanted from the get-go.

All I'm saying is that he did nothing to make this situation better.

Oh. He brought the abuse on himself.

"Baby, why'd you make me hit you?"

 

[PreachersWife2004]

Correct, I can't recall the police report mentioning that, which is a pretty important point, don't ya think?

Also, if he went for the cops gun, they would have taken him down hard immediately and that didn't happen either.

I do think, the possibility exists, that Hollie was looking for something like this to happen and why he threatened to sue right away and had two cell phones.

I am still of the position, the bank and security guard are to blame for this one and actions of the 2nd cop should be examined as well. It shouldn't be too hard to have Hollie's attorney ask for security tapes on that area before this event happened and see if the guards ask people to leave.

I'm going to be a stickler here, because I chuckle every time I see it. His name is Lollie, with an L. Not Hollie.

Oh. He brought the abuse on himself.

"Baby, why'd you make me hit you?"

Aww...so's law without the so!

Nope, that's not what I said at all. I said he didn't do anything to help the situation. And he wasn't abused. Cops acted within the boundaries they needed to, in my opinion. We'll see what a review brings about. Charges not being filed doesn't automatically mean an arrest is bogus.