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Yes, cops received a complaint of loitering and did not witness the event, they only received a call. I have seen no evidence, that Lollie was required by Minnesota law to show ID under these circumstances. If someone will present such evidence, I would be more than willing to acknowledge he should have shown his ID.
Was Lollie difficult? Yes, but difficult does not equal breaking the law and or giving up his rights. The security guard who called, did not know the local laws and the male cop who was not professional, stepped over the line, IMO.
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And they did. No problem there.
An illegal arrest is "just"? A tasing in violation of department policy is "just"? See, City of St. Paul Police Policy Manual § 246.05 ("A subject who is simply walking or running away from a scene and not posing assaultive/violent or potentially assaultive/violent behavior should not be exposed to the ECD").
I'm afraid I cannot agree with your definition of "just".
There were never even any charges against him. The City Attorney declined to even enter a misdemeanor tag citation. Check the Ramsey County misdemeanor docket--it is open to the public.
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