Sitting while Black

[CaDan]

At the time of the police interaction, did they have probable cause to believe that a crime was taking place?

No.

 

[JustOneWay]

At the time of the police interaction, did they have probable cause to believe that a crime was taking place?

The crime of sitting?

Reminds me of Rosa Parks committing a crime by sitting.

 

[GarfieldJL]

The crime of sitting?

Reminds me of Rosa Parks committing a crime by sitting.

Supposedly the bench was on private property, okay so I'm wondering if someone reported the guy, which is why cops showed up in the first place.

Contrary to what some people here would like to believe, cops don't go up to arrest people while they are sitting on a public park bench.

 

[MachZer0]

Walking in an open bank is now considered trespassing? I suppose so if one is black while wearing dreads....

The trespass came into play when he refused to leave. Remaining in the bank put him in violaltion

 

[MachZer0]

A security guard was the victim?

Did you know all charges were dropped?


There was no crime....

The bank was the victim

 

[MachZer0]

Supposedly the bench was on private property, okay so I'm wondering if someone reported the guy, which is why cops showed up in the first place.

Contrary to what some people here would like to believe, cops don't go up to arrest people while they are sitting on a public park bench.

When our liberal friends want ot make an issue of racism by cops, they should find a case where the alleged victim of said racism wasn't committing a crime

 

[TLK Valentine]

The bank was the victim

One would've thought it was open to the public or something...

 

[CaDan]

Supposedly the bench was on private property, okay so I'm wondering if someone reported the guy, which is why cops showed up in the first place.

Subject to easements in favor of the City of Saint Paul for public use. And public use even includes scary Negroes. Shocking, I know.

Contrary to what some people here would like to believe, cops don't go up to arrest people while they are sitting on a public park bench.

Righty-Oh! They chase them two blocks away to perform an illegal arrest.

 

[CaDan]

When our liberal friends want ot make an issue of racism by cops, they should find a case where the alleged victim of said racism wasn't committing a crime

When you want to defend White Supremacy, you should stop making false statements.

We've been over this before.

 

[CaDan]

The bank was the victim

A victim of public Negritude.

 

[CaDan]

The trespass came into play when he refused to leave. Remaining in the bank put him in violaltion

The statement in the first sentence is false and made with knowledge of its falsity.

 

[MachZer0]

One would've thought it was open to the public or something...

Not all areas of a bank are open to the public

 

[MachZer0]

When you want to defend White Supremacy, you should stop making false statements.

We've been over this before.

When a case of white supremacy comes forth, let us know

 

[stamperben]

When a case of white supremacy comes forth, let us know

He has been.

 

[bhsmte]

He has been.

The female cop seemed quite reasonable and tried to talk with the guy and explain why they were there, but the male cop was a jerk and went overboard.

The guy who was claimed to have been trespassing, could have simply stopped and talked to the female cop and explain and when he refused, it didn't help the situation. He also right away claimed racism and was recording, so it would appear, he may have had an agenda in the whole thing. I could be wrong though.

Now, was he trespassing? I don't know, because I have seen no evidence it was considered private. Obviously, someone from the bank called the cops, because he didn't leave when asked. Did they try to shoo him off because he was black, or would they have done the same if he was white? I don't know the answer and I don't believe anyone has any evidence to claim either way, except, speculation.

 

[CaDan]

The Saint Paul Legislative Code, Sec. 140.11, provides that "All parts of the skyway system shall be open to the public every day between the hours of 12:00 a.m. to 2:00 a.m. and between the hours of 6:00 a.m. to 12:00 a.m."

That's part of the easement deal that got these things made. So, no, Nightingale Realty could not exclude Negroes from the skyway.

To the extent Nightingale Realty wanted to exclude scary Negroes from the Whites-only seats, they needed to implement something an actual physical barrier involving "a use of a key, access card, access code, escort or other security clearance."

Sec. 140.01.

 

[CaDan]

Not all areas of a bank are open to the public

332 Minnesota Street is not a bank.

 

[CaDan]

The guy who was claimed to have been trespassing, could have simply stopped and talked to the female cop and explain and when he refused, it didn't help the situation. He also right away claimed racism and was recording, so it would appear, he may have had an agenda in the whole thing. I could be wrong though.

Sure he had an agenda. To expose unlawful actions by the Saint Paul Police Department.

Is that a bad agenda? I guess it depends on your opinion of the value of White Supremacy.

 

[stamperben]

The female cop seemed quite reasonable and tried to talk with the guy and explain why they were there, but the male cop was a jerk and went overboard.

The guy who was claimed to have been trespassing, could have simply stopped and talked to the female cop and explain and when he refused, it didn't help the situation. He also right away claimed racism and was recording, so it would appear, he may have had an agenda in the whole thing. I could be wrong though.

Now, was he trespassing? I don't know, because I have seen no evidence it was considered private. Obviously, someone from the bank called the cops, because he didn't leave when asked. Did they try to shoo him off because he was black, or would they have done the same if he was white? I don't know the answer and I don't believe anyone has any evidence to claim either way, except, speculation.

This doesn't in any way address my quote that was in answer to Mach's post, so let me go over it again.

When a case of white supremacy comes forth, let us know

He has been.

CaDan has been pointing out white supremacy. In multiple threads.

 

[bhsmte]

The Saint Paul Legislative Code, Sec. 140.11, provides that "All parts of the skyway system shall be open to the public every day between the hours of 12:00 a.m. to 2:00 a.m. and between the hours of 6:00 a.m. to 12:00 a.m."

That's part of the easement deal that got these things made. So, no, Nightingale Realty could not exclude Negroes from the skyway.

To the extent Nightingale Realty wanted to exclude scary Negroes from the Whites-only seats, they needed to implement something an actual physical barrier involving "a use of a key, access card, access code, escort or other security clearance."

Sec. 140.01.

You could be right and you could be wrong. If you have evidence that these people selectively shoo off blacks and allow whites to stay, then you would be right.