Sin is Transgression of the Law - 1 John 3:4

[BobRyan]

freeinhim3 said:

The most flagrant sinning against the ten commandments I ever witnessed was in a church that worshipped on a saturday. They could quote your scriptures too, but it didnt do them any good

Once again you answer with a Thus saith what you think and feel and not Scripture.

Because Freeman knows scripture, he is able to know a group by their fruits. We are told by the group he is referring that we have to keep the Sabbath or lose our eternal inheritance. One look at Isaiah 58:13 and we are able to determine if the group is doing what they are telling us we have to do. I realize that you are not interested in what others think, but many are.

one look at Is 58:13 and we are told not to engage in secular activity on Sabbath
one look at Is 66:23 and we are told all mankind is to come before God for worship from Sabbath to Sabbath
one look at Lev 23:3 and we are told that the Bible Sabbath is a day of holy convocation
one look at Is 56:6-8 and we are told that gentiles are specifically singled out for Sabbath keeping

one look at the post from freeInHim3 and we see that he has free will and can think whatever he wishes but his condemnation of them is not supported by even a single fact named by him. My point is not that there is no such thing as some local congregation some place on planet earth that actually did something wrong... just that freeInHim3 is using a sketchy statement with no details to condemn some local congregation not identified - as if "That should suffice" for something.

 

[BobRyan]

When he speaks of Christ's law, he speaks of the 2 greatest commandments Jesus speaks of in Matthew 22:37.

IN Matt 22 Christ quotes exclusively from the Law of Moses
Deut 6:5 "Love God with all your heart"
Lev 19:18 "Love your neighbor as yourself"

The law of Christ is not inclusive of the mosaic law or the law the Jews are under

Reread my statement above where details in Matt 22 apparently are being skimmed over in your statement above.

1 Corinthians 7:19
Circumcision is nothing and uncircumcision is nothing. Keeping God’s commands is what counts.

There Paul makes a contrast between ceremonial law and the moral law of God called "The commandments of God"
1 Cor 7:19 Circumcision is nothing, and uncircumcision is nothing, but what matters is the keeping of the commandments of God
Rev 14:12 the saints "KEEP the Commandments of God and their faith in Jesus"
Deut 5:22 God "spoke these Ten Commandments from the mountain to the people... and He added no more"

According to Paul that law is give with this feature "Honor your father and mother - is the first commandment with a promise" Eph 6:2

 

[BobRyan]

. However, if Paul intended 7:19 to mean the 10 commandments and dietary laws this is in conflict with his other points.

until you read Eph 6:2 and Romans 7.

And Romans 13 where he gives the same list as does Christ in Matt 19.

 

[Studyman]

For no temptation has overtaken you that is not common to man.
But God is faithful [to His Word He can be trusted] to provide the way out and strengthen you. 1 Cor 10:13

You're called to repent if you're barking up the wrong tree, relying on flesh. A man reaps what he sows.

But if you rely on the Spirit of God, you will reap everlasting life in our Lord Jesus Christ.
God is faithful, who has called you into fellowship with his Son, Jesus Christ our Lord. 1 Cor 1:9

In my understanding the Words of God are Spirit and Life. And I believe in the Christ of the Bible. "It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God." And also the Christ inspired Words of Paul.

2 Tim. 3: 16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: 17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.

I clearly see that "many" who come in Christ's Name, promote another gospel, and it is seductive, however, by reason of use I have come to know and have Faith in the Words of God, and His Son, the Lord's Christ. It Seems this is the relationship the Jesus of the Bible espoused.

John 17: 3 And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.

 

[Dahveed]

In my understanding the Words of God are Spirit and Life. And I believe in the Christ of the Bible. "It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God." And also the Christ inspired Words of Paul.
2 Tim. 3: 16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: 17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.
I clearly see that "many" who come in Christ's Name, promote another gospel, and it is seductive, however, by reason of use I have come to know and have Faith in the Words of God, and His Son, the Lord's Christ. It Seems this is the relationship the Jesus of the Bible espoused.

If they are promoting another gospel they would not be saved through Christ. Never able to come to the knowledge of the truth. 2 Tim 3:7 Reprobate concerning the faith. 2 Tim 3:8

John 17: 3 And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.

Grace to you and peace from God the Father and our Lord Jesus Christ, who gave Himself for our sins, to deliver us from this present evil age, according to the will of our God and Father, to whom be glory forever and ever. Amen. Gal 1:3-5

 

[Studyman]

If they are promoting another gospel they would not be saved through Christ. Never able to come to the knowledge of the truth. 2 Tim 3:7 Reprobate concerning the faith. 2 Tim 3:8

This is true. They "believe they are saved", much like the mainstream preachers of the Jesus of the Bibles time believed they were "heirs to the Promise". But they are deceived, which means, they believe things that are not truth. Jesus warns us of this very thing.

Matt. 7: 22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

Jesus, that is, the Jesus of the Bible, specifically warns against these "many".

Matt. 24: 4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you. 5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I (Jesus) am Christ; and shall deceive many.

Paul warns of the same thing.

Titus 1: 16 They profess that they know God; but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate.

And again;

2 Cor. 11: 12 But what I do, that I will do, that I may cut off occasion from them which desire occasion; that wherein they glory, they may be found even as we. 13 For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ. 14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.

Jesus defines these "many" like this. "Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves."

He said we would know them by their works.

Grace to you and peace from God the Father and our Lord Jesus Christ, who gave Himself for our sins, to deliver us from this present evil age, according to the will of our God and Father, to whom be glory forever and ever. Amen. Gal 1:3-5

Pretty much everyone who calls Jesus Lord, Lord believes this. But Jesus Himself said HE doesn't forgive the sins of the non-repentant, nor of people HE doesn't know.

Luke 13: 3 I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.

I advocate listening to the Christ of the Bible, and being a "doer" of His Sayings, and not a hearer only, as HE teaches.

 

[DamianWarS]

IN Matt 22 Christ quotes exclusively from the Law of Moses

the law of Moses has a starting point, it did not start upon creation so the laws within it are implicitly not universal. However, they are based on universal constructs. The 4th commandment for example opens with "remember..." so the 4th commandment is not arbitrary but has a root it is based on showing us there was something before the 4th commandment, yet biblically speaking the 4th command still has a starting point analogous to the Moasic law. indeed the 7th day pre-dates it but there is no commandment on the 7th and we don't say the "7th day commandment" because no such commandment exists. The days of creation themselves did not "start" these constructs and they themselves are still manifestations of them. Universal constructs are linked to God himself and have always been, predating any biblical events. they are not time, event, or covenant based, they are the very character of God and what gets passed down to us is a contextual version of those immutable constructs and inherently have limited context that are meant for time and place. Even our current way we approach God will change upon things like the new heaven and new earth while these immutable constructs stay the same throughout these passing events.

Christ tells us the two greatest commandments, even though it's already in the law as you brought up, he reveals to us that "All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments". So these commandments are fundamental constructs or root values the entire Tanakh is based on and they themselves are more universally defined as you have indicated they are brought up in the Moaisc law as well as cross over into the new covenant. We are incapable of understanding the unembodied thoughts of God and the moment they are written down or filtered through a language or through physical means they become contextualized which is the limits of the physical world. Jesus's point is revealing a deeper meaning behind all these things in a contextual form giving us more of a heuristic approach of living, but he is not just regurgitating commandments of the mosaic law which would be conflicting with his point he instead shows us what the law itself is based on.

1 Cor 7:19 Circumcision is nothing, and uncircumcision is nothing, but what matters is the keeping of the commandments of God

you are ignoring the mirror verses of Gal 5:6 and Gal 6:15. because they are the same point they are the same meaning and are contrasting the same things. they are not contrasting ceremonial law with moral law which are post-biblical titles we have used to split the law up and Paul never used such terms. He is contrasting the old covenant thinking ("circumcision") with the new covenant ("new creation" Gal 6:15). for some reason you choose to sweep these verses under a rug when very clearly it is the exact same point, Paul is making. this is a critical textual analysis using biblical sources and just not packing stuff into words with no support.

 

[SabbathBlessings]

you are ignoring the mirror verses of Gal 5:6 and Gal 6:15. because they are the same point they are the same meaning and are contrasting the same things. they are not contrasting ceremonial law with moral law which are post-biblical titles we have used to split the law up and Paul never used such terms. He is contrasting the old covenant thinking ("circumcision") with the new covenant ("new creation" Gal 6:15). for some reason you choose to sweep these verses under a rug when very clearly it is the exact same point, Paul is making. this is a critical textual analysis using biblical sources and just not packing stuff into words with no support.

In essence 1 Cor 7:19, Gal 5:5, Gal 6:15 is all in harmony,, which means Gal 5:5 and Gal 6:15 is not deleting 1 Cor 7:19 but instead all work in harmony.

The problem that separated man from God was sin and still does- sin is a deadly disease and Christ wants us to overcome through His Spirit of Truth John 14:15-18 and all of His commandments are Truth Psalms 119:151 and righteous Psalms 119:172 so there is never a time we should go away from the Truth or what He deemed righteous. Sin is the transgression of God's law 1 John 3:4 Romans 7:7 which is why what matters is keeping the commandments of God (not sinning). That's why those with faith uphold the law Romans 3:31 through love 1 John 5:3 and when we become dead to sin, we come alive in Christ and will walk in His Spirit Romans 8:1-8 thus making us a new Creation. Jesus wants us changed from the inside out. These verses all work in harmony, one doesn't delete the other, if we have faith we keep the commandments because we love Jesus which leads us to a new creation in Christ.


1 Cor 7:19 Circumcision is nothing and uncircumcision is nothing, but keeping the commandments of God is what matters.
Gal 5:6 6 For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision avails anything, but faith working through love.
Gal 6:15 For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision avails anything, but a new creation.

 

[HIM]

IN Matt 22 Christ quotes exclusively from the Law of Moses
Deut 6:5 "Love God with all your heart"
Lev 19:18 "Love your neighbor as yourself"

Reread my statement above where details in Matt 22 apparently are being skimmed over in your statement above.

There Paul makes a contrast between ceremonial law and the moral law of God called "The commandments of God"
1 Cor 7:19 Circumcision is nothing, and uncircumcision is nothing, but what matters is the keeping of the commandments of God
Rev 14:12 the saints "KEEP the Commandments of God and their faith in Jesus"
Deut 5:22 God "spoke these Ten Commandments from the mountain to the people... and He added no more"

According to Paul that law is give with this feature "Honor your father and mother - is the first commandment with a promise" Eph 6:2

This is true. They "believe they are saved", much like the mainstream preachers of the Jesus of the Bibles time believed they were "heirs to the Promise". But they are deceived, which means, they believe things that are not truth. Jesus warns us of this very thing.

Matt. 7: 22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

Jesus, that is, the Jesus of the Bible, specifically warns against these "many".

Matt. 24: 4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you. 5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I (Jesus) am Christ; and shall deceive many.

Paul warns of the same thing.

Titus 1: 16 They profess that they know God; but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate.

And again;

2 Cor. 11: 12 But what I do, that I will do, that I may cut off occasion from them which desire occasion; that wherein they glory, they may be found even as we. 13 For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ. 14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.

Jesus defines these "many" like this. "Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves."

He said we would know them by their works.



Pretty much everyone who calls Jesus Lord, Lord believes this. But Jesus Himself said HE doesn't forgive the sins of the non-repentant, nor of people HE doesn't know.

Luke 13: 3 I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.

I advocate listening to the Christ of the Bible, and being a "doer" of His Sayings, and not a hearer only, as HE teaches.

the law of Moses has a starting point, it did not start upon creation so the laws within it are implicitly not universal. However, they are based on universal constructs. The 4th commandment for example opens with "remember..." so the 4th commandment is not arbitrary but has a root it is based on showing us there was something before the 4th commandment, yet biblically speaking the 4th command still has a starting point analogous to the Moasic law. indeed the 7th day pre-dates it but there is no commandment on the 7th and we don't say the "7th day commandment" because no such commandment exists. The days of creation themselves did not "start" these constructs and they themselves are still manifestations of them. Universal constructs are linked to God himself and have always been, predating any biblical events. they are not time, event, or covenant based, they are the very character of God and what gets passed down to us is a contextual version of those immutable constructs and inherently have limited context that are meant for time and place. Even our current way we approach God will change upon things like the new heaven and new earth while these immutable constructs stay the same throughout these passing events.

Christ tells us the two greatest commandments, even though it's already in the law as you brought up, he reveals to us that "All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments". So these commandments are fundamental constructs or root values the entire Tanakh is based on and they themselves are more universally defined as you have indicated they are brought up in the Moaisc law as well as cross over into the new covenant. We are incapable of understanding the unembodied thoughts of God and the moment they are written down or filtered through a language or through physical means they become contextualized which is the limits of the physical world. Jesus's point is revealing a deeper meaning behind all these things in a contextual form giving us more of a heuristic approach of living, but he is not just regurgitating commandments of the mosaic law which would be conflicting with his point he instead shows us what the law itself is based on.



you are ignoring the mirror verses of Gal 5:6 and Gal 6:15. because they are the same point they are the same meaning and are contrasting the same things. they are not contrasting ceremonial law with moral law which are post-biblical titles we have used to split the law up and Paul never used such terms. He is contrasting the old covenant thinking ("circumcision") with the new covenant ("new creation" Gal 6:15). for some reason you choose to sweep these verses under a rug when very clearly it is the exact same point, Paul is making. this is a critical textual analysis using biblical sources and just not packing stuff into words with no support.

The biggest issue and why there is so much controversy over Paul's writings is what?

 

[DamianWarS]

In essence 1 Cor 7:19, Gal 5:5, Gal 6:15 is referring to the same thing, which means Gal 5:5 and Gal 6:15 is not deleting 1 Cor 7:19 but instead all work in harmony.

you are conflating "commandments" in 1 Cor 7:19 with a select group of commandments without any supporting link. since Gal 5:6 and Gal 6:15 are mirror copies of 1 Cor 7:19 they are the supporting link to the meaning behind "commandments" and they do not point to the law.

7:19 - Keeping God’s commands is what counts.
5:6 - The only thing that counts is faith expressing itself through love.
6:15 - what counts is the new creation.

Keeping God’s commands = faith expressing itself through love = the new creation = what counts

this is an analogous reference to the 2 greatest commandments of Mat 22:40 which is a more of a heuristic approach that the law and the prophets "hang on". this is what "commandments" means of 7:19 and there is no need to superimpose old covenant laws over top of this when there is no cause to do so. lacking support for the latter amounts to conjecture only as it is incomplete and missing vital components. The passage already has it's proofs, the Gal 5:6/6:15 references are not extras added on to 7:19, they are the exact same thing. Keeping God’s commands IS faith expressing itself through love in the new creation.

 

[DamianWarS]

The biggest issue and why there is so much controversy over Paul's writings is what?

I'm not following you there, you're going to have to answer that yourself and jump to the point that you're trying to make.

 

[SabbathBlessings]

you are conflating "commandments" in 1 Cor 7:19 with a select group of commandments without any supporting link. since Gal 5:6 and Gal 6:15 are mirror copies of 1 Cor 7:19 they are the supporting link to the meaning behind "commandments" and they do not point to the law.

7:19 - Keeping God’s commands is what counts.
5:6 - The only thing that counts is faith expressing itself through love.
6:15 - what counts is the new creation.

Keeping God’s commands = faith expressing itself through love = the new creation = what counts

this is an analogous reference to the 2 greatest commandments of Mat 22:40 which is a more of a heuristic approach that the law and the prophets "hang on". this is what "commandments" means of 7:19 and there is no need to superimpose old covenant laws over top of this when there is no cause to do so. lacking support for the latter amounts is conjecture as it is incomplete and missing vital components. The passage already has its proofs, the Gal 5:6/6:15 references are not extras added on to 7:19, they are the exact same thing. Keeping God’s commands IS faith expressing itself through love in the new creation.

According to Jesus, the commandments to keep for eternal life, He quoted right from the Ten Matthew 19:17-19 and stated we should keep God’s commandments again quoting from the Ten over mans rules Matthew 15:3-9. Faith through love IS keeping the commandments of God, not breaking them. If we are a new creation through Christ, we are not an enmity against God’s law. Romans 8:4-8

 

[DamianWarS]

According to Jesus, the commandments to keep for eternal life, He quoted right from the Ten Matthew 19:17-19 and stated we should keep God’s commandments again quoting from the Ten over mans rules Matthew 15:3-9. Faith through love IS keeping the commandments of God, not breaking them. If we are a new creation through Christ, we are not an enmity against God’s law. Romans 8:4-8

These passages all have goals, but you seem to ignore the goal and just pull out the parts that validate your position

In Mat 19 Jesus uses the commandments as a segue to show it wasn't enough, the goal is to show that the 10 are lacking and by quoting this passage you affirm the same. But you've quoted only the first part and left out 20-21 that get's to the point.

All these I have kept,” the young man said. “What do I still lack?”Jesus answered, “If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.”

Jesus already knew the answer, the man kept the commandments yet he was lacking. Christ closes with a startment analogous to the "love your neighbor" commandment and he cuts to the heart, something the law was unable to accomplish.

with Mat 15 the goal is calling out the hypocrisy. This is self evident in the text but you've made your own goal and turned the text into validating the 10. These passages are not about the 10 commandments extending outside the covenant they were made in. We need to stick to the context of the passages not invent our own.

Rom 8:4-8 only agrees with your position in an old covenant vacuum. "God's law" is ambiguous. To say it points to 10 and dietary laws is missing a supporting link to bind those together. There are a whole lot more laws that can be called "God's" so why stop at 10 and arbitrarily add dietary laws to the list too?

 

[Dahveed]

This is true. They "believe they are saved", much like the mainstream preachers of the Jesus of the Bibles time believed they were "heirs to the Promise". But they are deceived, which means, they believe things that are not truth.

Again, they are deceived because they rejected the gospel of salvation through faith in Christ. That they all might be damned who did not believe the truth.

I advocate listening to the Christ of the Bible, and being a "doer" of His Sayings, and not a hearer only, as HE teaches.

But we always give thanks to God for you, believers beloved by the Lord, because God has chosen you from the beginning for salvation through the sanctifying work of the Spirit [that sets you apart for God’s purpose in Christ] by believing the truth of the gospel of Jesus Christ. 2 Thess 2:12-13

 

[Studyman]

Again, they are deceived because they rejected the gospel of salvation through faith in Christ. That they all might be damned who did not believe the truth.

The point is those "Christians" in Matt. 7, didn't believe they rejected the Gospel of the Christ of the Bible. No self-proclaimed "Christian" does. That is why Jesus warned specifically about being "deceived" not by Islam, not by atheists, but by self-proclaimed "Christians" or as the Jesus of the Bible called them, "Many who come in His Name".

Matt. 24: 4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you. 5 For many shall come in my name, (Like those in Matt. 7) saying, I (Jesus) am Christ; and shall deceive many.

The Mainstream Religion in Jerusalem of Jesus Time believed they were heirs to the promise. They didn't believe they "Rejected the Commandments of God by their own traditions", even though Jesus pointed out from the Scriptures that they did. We are to "Take heed" we are not deceived in like manner. At least according to the Christ of the Bible.

But we always give thanks to God for you, believers beloved by the Lord, because God has chosen you from the beginning for salvation through the sanctifying work of the Spirit [that sets you apart for God’s purpose in Christ] by believing the truth of the gospel of Jesus Christ. 2 Thess 2:12-13

I'm sure every self proclaimed Christian would post the same Scripture, like those in Matt. 7 who taught in His Name. But there are "many" who teach in His Name, that HE Himself says HE doesn't even know them. And HE and Paul said you shall know them by their works.

Titus 1: 16 They profess that they know God; but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate.

It seems important to take the warnings of the Christ of the Bible seriously, or as HE says, "Take Heed".

 

[Dahveed]

Matt. 24: 4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you. 5 For many shall come in my name, (Like those in Matt. 7) saying, I (Jesus) am Christ; and shall deceive many.

The Mainstream Religion in Jerusalem of Jesus Time believed they were heirs to the promise.

So what you're saying is that these hypocrites praised with their lips but were separated from Him. Matthew 15:7-9

Titus 1: 16 They profess that they know God; but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate.

So I solemnly affirm together with the Lord [reconciled through Christ], that you no longer live as the [unbelieving] Gentiles live, in the futility of their minds and in the foolishness and emptiness of their souls separated from the living God. Eph 4:17-18

 

[Bob S]

To all you that are trying so hard to push Sabbath keeping on the rest of us, Paul tells all of us in 2Cor3:6-11 that the ten commandments were temporary and the last time I looked at Ex 19:5-6 God told Moses the covenant He was giving was an "IF" covenant., Israel had to obey the covenant for it to be an everlasting covenant. They failed to obey and the covenant was nullified, thus Paul was correct in writing 2Cor3:6-11 and you are incorrect in trying to convince us to keep a law that does not exist.

 

[BobRyan]

To all you that are trying so hard to push Sabbath keeping

hint ... we did not write the Bible.

Your argument is "with the text"

Paul tells all of us in 2Cor3:6-11 that the ten commandments were temporary

Not true. If it did - you would quote a text actually saying "the ten commandments were temporary". (As we all know)

Eph 6:2 and Rom 13 and Rom 7 and Rom 3 he reminds us that they "still remain" ... so also in 1 Cor 7:19 "what matters is keeping the Commandments of God"

Where Deut 5:22 "He spoke these Ten Commandments from the mountain to the people - and added no more" - proving that "they all matter"

James 2 "He who breaks one - breaks them all"... "He spoke these ten... and added no more".

No wonder scripture gets so many objects posted against it.

 

[BobRyan]

the law of Moses has a starting point, it did not start upon creation

The Ten Commandments did start at creation as almost every Christian denomination on planet Earth has stated in their key doctrinal statements.

So that means it was a sin to "take God's name in vain" right from the very start - as all Christians freely admit.
What is more in Gen 4 murder is "a sin" even without having two tablets of stone.

The 4th commandment for example opens with "remember..."

before the giving of the 4th commandment in stone -- it is commanded in Ex 16 and set apart for observance in Gen 2:1-3

Christ tells us the two greatest commandments, even though it's already in the law as you brought up

Indeed He quotes exclusively from the "LAw of Moses" in Matt 22 for the "two greatest commandments".

And in Deut 5:22 we have "He spoke these ten commandments... and added no more"

, he reveals to us that "All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments".

A very firm foundation indeed.

they are not contrasting ceremonial law with moral law which are post-biblical titles

Paul does that very thing in 1 Cor 7:19.

Do you have another suggestion?

 

[Bob S]

Not true. If it did - you would quote a text actually saying "the ten commandments were temporary". (As we all know)

6 He has made us competent as ministers of a new covenant—not of the letter but of the Spirit; for the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life.

The Greater Glory of the New Covenant​

7 Now if the ministry that brought death, which was engraved in letters on stone, came with glory, so that the Israelites could not look steadily at the face of Moses because of its glory, transitory though it was, 8 will not the ministry of the Spirit be even more glorious? 9 If the ministry that brought condemnation was glorious, how much more glorious is the ministry that brings righteousness! 10 For what was glorious has no glory now in comparison with the surpassing glory. 11 And if what was transitory came with glory, how much greater is the glory of that which lasts!

What was engraved in stone that made Moses' face shine Bob?

Verse 7 ends with the glorious ten commandments telling us that glory was temporary.

verse 8 tells us the ministry of the Spirit is even more glorious than the glory of the ten commandments.

Verse 9 tells us the ministry that condemns (the ministry that brought death the ones written with letters on stone WAS glorious (was is past tense) and again emphasizes the Holy Spirit is more glorious than the ten commandments ever were.

Verse 11 tells us that the transitory ten commandments that came with glory and uses the word WAS once again and compares them to the glory that lasts.

If that is not enough to convince you that Jews are no longer under the power of the old covenant laws (Gentiles never have been) then all I can do is continue to pray that you somehow will see the real truth and stop trying to convince others that we have to observe a day that is now nothing but a historical fact.