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Signs of the Times... what do you see?

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Daniel sais there will appear only 4 Beast that directly affected the Jews until the end times situation.

The 4th Beast is the final beast and its the Roman Empire.

The RCC has risen to reinstitute the fallen ROMAN EMPIRE and take control.
its explained here :The Little Horn of Daniel
It is so fascinating to see that Rome was divided between East and West... and became two branches of Catholicism--"Roman" and "Orthodox."
Furthermore, the iron could easily refer to Socialism and the clay to democracy, two kinds of government that cannot mix without weakening the other.
The ten toes? I have heard various theories... from ten regions of the world already defined by the UN for global government, to ten Islamic countries already forming a coalition that will come against Israel.
 
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There's nothing new under the sun, Christians since the 1st century have been sure that Jesus would come back in their generation...



"A son of perdition has arisen, the false prophet Muhammed, who has seduced many men from the truth by worldly enticements and the pleasures of the flesh… we nevertheless put our trust in the Lord who has already given us a sign that good is to come, that the end of this beast is approaching, whose number, according to the Revelation of Saint John, will end in 666 years, of which already nearly 600 have passed." - Pope Innocent III, 1213

"I, Sandro, painted this picture at the end of the year 1500 in the troubles of Italy in the half time after the time according to the eleventh chapter of St. John in the second woe of the Apocalypse in the loosing of the devil for three and a half years. Then he will be chained in the twelfth chapter and we shall see him trodden down as in this picture." - Sandro Botticelli, 1500 (the end of the world would have been in 1504)

Predictions and claims for the Second Coming of Christ - Wikipedia
 
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I'm not looking for debate here.
I would rather we don't debate. I don't care if you are pre-trib, mid-trib, or post-trib.
Jesus said we ought to be watching for His coming, and He told us to watch for the signs.

What have you seen recently, that looks to you like a sign of the end?

Something that excited me today, was when I read about what the Jewish year 5777 means, to rabbis.
5 is the number of Grace.
And 7 is the number of completion.
And 3 repetitions means it's the hand of God at work.

Putting it all together, 5777 means, according to many Jewish rabbis, the year that God completes the work of Grace!

Ephesians 3:2-6 tells us that we are now living in the dispensation of Grace, which is the Gentiles being included in the body of Christ.

Of course, Jesus said there is a time in the future, when the times of the Gentiles will be fulfilled. Luke 21:24

And Paul said in Romans 11:
25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fullness of the Gentiles be come in.
26 And so all Israel shall be saved...

Could this be the year? I am not setting a date... but I'm just wondering.
Watching, waiting, and wondering.

I remember how that in 1917, the Balfour Declaration was issued, opening the land of Palestine to Jewish settlement.
And exactly 50 years later, in the 6-day war, Israel gained control of Jerusalem.

This year, 2017... the year 5777 on the Jewish calendar... is exactly 50 years later.
I'm sitting on the edge of my seat!

Acts 1:7 - He said to them, “It is not for you to know times or seasons that the Father has fixed by his own authority.

I understand your excitement. But do understand what's more important. The WILL OF GOD. That is worked through His Church. Don't be so focused on Jesus coming back with your eyes to the clouds yet are totally blind to the work right in front of you...a person who needs salvation. :)
 
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Daniel sais there will appear only 4 Beast that directly affected the Jews until the end times situation.

The 4th Beast is the final beast and its the Roman Empire.


after the Roman empire (iron legs) collapse came a division of the empire into ten nations (ten toes) three of them were annihilated by the papacy (little horn), the Ostrogoths, Vandals and the Heruli


Daniel 7:7-8
7 After this I saw in the night visions, and behold a fourth beast, dreadful and terrible, and strong exceedingly; and it had great iron teeth: it devoured and brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with the feet of it: and it was diverse from all the beasts that were before it; and it had ten horns

8 I considered the horns, and, behold, there came up among them another little horn, before whom there were three of the first horns plucked up by the roots: and, behold, in this horn were eyes like the eyes of man, and a mouth speaking great things.
 
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When I was young I did not see the end of the world coming. Now that I am in my 50's I know I am mortal. Whether or not we are in the last days, the length of a man's time on earth is finite. People did not know they would soon succumb to heart disease, cancer, traffic accidents, or violence. A man was driving to work one morning suffered an aneurysm and did not make it home to see his wife and children again.

Matthew 6 World English Bible
25 `So, I tell you this. Do not be troubled about what you will eat or drink to keep alive. Do not be troubled about what you will wear on your body. Life itself is worth more than food, and the body is worth more than clothes.
26 `Look at the birds that fly in the air. They do not plant or cut (stalks of grain) or keep any food. Yet your Father in heaven feeds them. Are you not worth more than birds?
27 Can any one of you live any longer by troubling yourself about these things?
28 And why are you troubled about clothes? See how the flowers grow in the fields. They do not work or make cloth.
29 I tell you, King Solomon was a great man. But he was not dressed as fine as one of these flowers.
30 God dresses the grass in the fields so it looks nice. It is in the field one day and the next day it is put on the fire. If God dresses the grass like that, he cares much more that you have clothes to wear. You do not believe in God very much!
31 `So then, do not keep asking, "What shall we eat?" "What shall we drink?" and "What shall we wear?"
32 It is the people who do not believe in God who work for all these things. Your Father in heaven knows that you need them all.
33 `Work first for God's kingdom and what he calls good. Then you will have all these things also.
34 `So do not be troubling yourself about tomorrow. Tomorrow will have its own trouble. Today's trouble is enough for today.'
 
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I'm not looking for debate here.
I would rather we don't debate. I don't care if you are pre-trib, mid-trib, or post-trib.
Jesus said we ought to be watching for His coming, and He told us to watch for the signs.

What have you seen recently, that looks to you like a sign of the end?

Something that excited me today, was when I read about what the Jewish year 5777 means, to rabbis.
5 is the number of Grace.
And 7 is the number of completion.
And 3 repetitions means it's the hand of God at work.

Putting it all together, 5777 means, according to many Jewish rabbis, the year that God completes the work of Grace!

Ephesians 3:2-6 tells us that we are now living in the dispensation of Grace, which is the Gentiles being included in the body of Christ.

Of course, Jesus said there is a time in the future, when the times of the Gentiles will be fulfilled. Luke 21:24

And Paul said in Romans 11:
25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fullness of the Gentiles be come in.
26 And so all Israel shall be saved...

Could this be the year? I am not setting a date... but I'm just wondering.
Watching, waiting, and wondering.

I remember how that in 1917, the Balfour Declaration was issued, opening the land of Palestine to Jewish settlement.
And exactly 50 years later, in the 6-day war, Israel gained control of Jerusalem.

This year, 2017... the year 5777 on the Jewish calendar... is exactly 50 years later.
I'm sitting on the edge of my seat!
Hi I can tell by your post you are pretrib in that the glorious hope of Jesus coming for his bride is something that only that point of view can have. if I am mid or post trib I am looking for the rise of antichrist to come and take over the world 1st. The Bible has a rule for the prophets that they must be 100 percent right in their prophecy. The Bible has a rule for interpretation that no prophecy is of any private interpretation. So with this in mind you can cut and paste all the unfulfilled prophecy and lay them out on a board like a jigsaw puzzle and see where they connect.
The return of Israel is central to the 7 year tribulation. The mid point is where the antichrist commits what is called the abomination of desolation. This is where the daily sacrifices are stopped and the antichrist then demands to be worshiped as some sort of God. This juncture is the point when the mark of the beast is brought in. Israel has not had a sacrifice since 70AD. And now the Temple Institute has replicated everything necessary to resume the sacrifice. The book of Hosea says 4 For the children of Israel shall abide many days without king or prince, without sacrifice or sacred pillar, without ephod or teraphim. 5 Afterward the children of Israel shall return and seek the LORD their God and David their king. They shall fear the LORD and His goodness in the latter days.
This prophecy links a long gap between having a king and sacrifice to Israel returning and seeking the LORD their God and David their king. It has been a long time without king or sacrifice and now it is ready. You also mention the time of the Gentiles and it is specific that at the midpoint of the tribulation that Jerusalem is trampled underfoot for 42 months. You see there is a countdown from the mid point to the 2nd coming so again the Lord coming like a thief is not when he comes at the end of the tribulation because a timeline is given. Rev 11 But leave out the court which is outside the temple, and do not measure it, for it has been given to the Gentiles. And they will tread the holy city underfoot for forty-two months.

Rev 13 And he was given a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies, and he was given authority to continue for forty-two months.

Some think Rev was fulfilled in 70AD and I dispute that. There were no two witnesses. The events were localized and not global. The return of Israel and their preparation for return of the sacrifices is central to the tribulation also at a time when moral conditions rival Sodom and at a time when globalization of the world is being plotted by the elite is significant. The events are lined up for a literal 7 year kingdom of evil rising to be destroyed by the 2nd coming of Jesus.
 
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"But understand this, that in the last days there will come times of difficulty. For people will be lovers of self, lovers of money, proud, arrogant, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, heartless, unappeasable, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not loving good, treacherous, reckless, swollen with conceit, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, having the appearance of godliness, but denying its power. Avoid such people. For among them are those who creep into households and capture weak women, burdened with sins and led astray by various passions, always learning and never able to arrive at a knowledge of the truth." ~2 Timothy 3:1-7

This all can be boiled down to narcissism as explained by this article:

Narcissism as Prophecy - Energetics Institute

And studies are showing that Narcissism is on the rise...

Why Is Narcissism Increasing Among Young Americans?
Research says young people today are more narcissistic than ever
Why are we becoming so narcissistic? Here’s the science


In my opinion this is how the world has always been. Men have always been, lovers of self, lovers of money, proud, arrogant, abusive etc. I think he is describing the modern church frankly, not the world, and I think it is coming to pass before our eyes.
 
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It is so fascinating to see that Rome was divided between East and West... and became two branches of Catholicism--"Roman" and "Orthodox."
Furthermore, the iron could easily refer to Socialism and the clay to democracy, two kinds of government that cannot mix without weakening the other.
The ten toes? I have heard various theories... from ten regions of the world already defined by the UN for global government, to ten Islamic countries already forming a coalition that will come against Israel.


I use to be convinced this clay and iron was Rome. But as more things unfold I am starting to think the mixing of clay and iron is actually transhumanism which is being pushed heavily. The idea of machines merging with men, chips being inserted in people, in their brains and so on. Pretty much everyone suspects that the mark will be RFID in nature. I think it goes a step further. I think (not saying I know for certain) that the beast is the system that will control this tech and the antichrist will sell this tech as once you get the chip you will not die, it will cure all disease and you will live forever and be like God...this is what he told eve and this is what he will tell people in the end, you will be like God, surely you will never die. When we look at this in light of scripture saying in Revelation that men will seek death and not find it....
 
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I'm not looking for debate here.
I would rather we don't debate. I don't care if you are pre-trib, mid-trib, or post-trib.
Jesus said we ought to be watching for His coming, and He told us to watch for the signs.

What have you seen recently, that looks to you like a sign of the end?

Based on how I see things, the promise God made to Abraham in Genesis 22:18 is the new covenant going forth to the Gentiles or "the time of the Gentiles". This time of the Gentiles, when all the nations are being blessed by the preaching of the gospel, is represented by the seven letters to the seven Gentile churches. After the global preaching of the gospel comes the end. This transition is seen in Revelation 4:1 as the shift from the the seven letters to the opening of the seals. I believe the time of the Gentiles is completed; the fullness of the Gentiles is yet to come in but the time of the gospel being preached in all nations is accomplished and we are in the time of the opening of the seals.

I think the first seal has already been opened which I see an an evil angel, the beast, being released from the abyss. He and his minions are working behind the scenes in the spiritual realm to set the stage for the rise of the man of sin. I think it was opened sometime around the turn of the turn of the century (1900). I see it this way because:
  1. Jerusalem is not being trampled under foot by the Gentiles. Luke 21:24 The time of the Gentiles is over.
  2. The U.N. is a world government that fits the description of the feet of iron and clay in Daniel 2.
  3. The U.N. was instrumental in establishing the state of Israel.
  4. The increase of knowledge beginning around then has been phenomenal. Daniel 12:4 Those who see a measure of validity in the book of Enoch understand how this can be attributed to the activity of evil angels.
  5. As mentioned earlier, people becoming narcissistic and self-absorbed. 2 Timothy 3:1-5
  6. Prevalent false doctrine and half-truths. Matthew 24:4-5 and 2 Timothy 4:3
  7. A global commercial system that can be controlled by one person. Revelation 13:16-17
When the second seal is opened, I expect it will bring about the destruction of the world's capital (Revelation 17:15-18) and will include the destruction of three of the ten horns (Daniel 7:8) by the man of sin.
 
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There's nothing new under the sun, Christians since the 1st century have been sure that Jesus would come back in their generation...



"A son of perdition has arisen, the false prophet Muhammed, who has seduced many men from the truth by worldly enticements and the pleasures of the flesh… we nevertheless put our trust in the Lord who has already given us a sign that good is to come, that the end of this beast is approaching, whose number, according to the Revelation of Saint John, will end in 666 years, of which already nearly 600 have passed." - Pope Innocent III, 1213

"I, Sandro, painted this picture at the end of the year 1500 in the troubles of Italy in the half time after the time according to the eleventh chapter of St. John in the second woe of the Apocalypse in the loosing of the devil for three and a half years. Then he will be chained in the twelfth chapter and we shall see him trodden down as in this picture." - Sandro Botticelli, 1500 (the end of the world would have been in 1504)

Predictions and claims for the Second Coming of Christ - Wikipedia

2 Peter 3:3-4 "...there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts, and saying,
Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.
 
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"But understand this, that in the last days there will come times of difficulty. For people will be lovers of self, lovers of money, proud, arrogant, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, heartless, unappeasable, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not loving good, treacherous, reckless, swollen with conceit, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, having the appearance of godliness, but denying its power. Avoid such people. For among them are those who creep into households and capture weak women, burdened with sins and led astray by various passions, always learning and never able to arrive at a knowledge of the truth." ~2 Timothy 3:1-7

This all can be boiled down to narcissism as explained by this article:

Narcissism as Prophecy - Energetics Institute

And studies are showing that Narcissism is on the rise...

Why Is Narcissism Increasing Among Young Americans?
Research says young people today are more narcissistic than ever
Why are we becoming so narcissistic? Here’s the science
 
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So you are saying the Church people will become/are self center
I'm not looking for debate here.
I would rather we don't debate. I don't care if you are pre-trib, mid-trib, or post-trib.
Jesus said we ought to be watching for His coming, and He told us to watch for the signs.

What have you seen recently, that looks to you like a sign of the end?

Something that excited me today, was when I read about what the Jewish year 5777 means, to rabbis.
5 is the number of Grace.
And 7 is the number of completion.
And 3 repetitions means it's the hand of God at work.

Putting it all together, 5777 means, according to many Jewish rabbis, the year that God completes the work of Grace!

Ephesians 3:2-6 tells us that we are now living in the dispensation of Grace, which is the Gentiles being included in the body of Christ.

Of course, Jesus said there is a time in the future, when the times of the Gentiles will be fulfilled. Luke 21:24

And Paul said in Romans 11:
25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fullness of the Gentiles be come in.
26 And so all Israel shall be saved...

Could this be the year? I am not setting a date... but I'm just wondering.
Watching, waiting, and wondering.

I remember how that in 1917, the Balfour Declaration was issued, opening the land of Palestine to Jewish settlement.
And exactly 50 years later, in the 6-day war, Israel gained control of Jerusalem.

This year, 2017... the year 5777 on the Jewish calendar... is exactly 50 years later.
I'm sitting on the edge of my seat!
 
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As 2017 moves along, we may wonder what it is that the Lord has next for His creation. We know the story of how He destroyed an early civilization by the means of a great flood. Jesus prophesied that in the time of the end it will again be ‘as in the days of Noah’. We can’t know how bad that civilization was, but it seems they just got on with life much the same as we do today. From God’s point of view, their problem was they failed to acknowledge Him or respect His Laws, so their Creator simply wiped them out and virtually started over again, just like anything made that turns out defective is remoulded, or with breeding; try a new bloodline. Isaiah 64:8, Jeremiah 18:6-7, Romans 9:20-21
So are the world’s people today as bad as those in Noah’s day? It seems likely, as evidenced by the decline in moral standards and the widespread disbelief in the Creator God. Jeremiah 6:18-19, Psalms 10:13, Ezekiel 20:39

Several Bible verses tell us that God the Creator takes a keen interest in what is happening on earth. Revelation 2:23b, Job 34:21-22, Proverbs 15:3, Psalms 11:4-5, Jer. 32:18-19
In our perfectly balanced and organized universe, He is playing out a drama: a set piece carefully orchestrated and arranged so that each player can choose their own role. Each person is given a conscience; a moral intuition to be aware of what is right and what is wrong, so we all make our choices as to how we live our lives.

Today, the whole world is in a precarious state, with a population of over 7 billion. There is the capacity to produce enough food and provide a reasonable lifestyle for that many, but not the altruistic desire to do so and human mismanagement exacerbates the problems. Therefore the situation deteriorates, life is difficult and short for most and only relatively few live a good and fulfilling life, while all mostly do not acknowledge the one true God or keep His Laws. Over 100 Bible prophesies say how God will judge the nations and punish His enemies, to once again ‘reset civilization’. Deuteronomy 32:35, Psalms 18:7-15, Isaiah 2:12, Isaiah 30:25-28, Habakkuk 3:12, Zephaniah 3:8, Hebrews 10:27, 2 Thessalonians 1:8, Jeremiah 23:19-20, Revelation 14:17-20

Note that most of the prophesies about the great Day of the Lord’s vengeance and wrath, which is the next prophesied event we can expect: being the fulfilment of Psalms 83, Micah 4:11-12, Revelation 6:12-17, state that this time He will use fire to ‘set the heavens ablaze, the earth will be enveloped in flames and all that is in it will be brought to judgement’. 2 Peter 3:7, Isaiah 30:25-28, Malachi 4:1, Isaiah 66:15-16, Zephaniah 3:8

But the Lord’s people have a Powerful Advocate, He promises to protect and save His righteous people. Jeremiah 50:33-34, Isaiah 51:16, Nahum 1:7, Psalms 60:4-5, Zechariah 9:15-16

Psalms 30:1-5 I shall exalt You Lord, for You have lifted me up and not let enemies prevail. I cried out to You [Acts 2:21] and You healed me, You saved my life as I was sinking into the abyss. Sing praises to the Lord, all you His loyal servants, give thanks to His holy name. In His anger there is punishment, but in His favour there is life. There may be distress at nightfall, but the morning will bring rejoicing.
 
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2 Peter 3:3-4 "...there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts, and saying,
Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.

I'm not scoffing, I just don't think there's any special reasons to think Jesus' return is eminent, he could come back tomorrow, or in 10,000 years. Regardless of when he comes back, it is our job to be ready, not to predict when it is going to happen, scripture is not a puzzle to piece together, Biblical prophesy is symbolic, but is less about predicting the future and more about giving a message. If you read what Jesus does say about what the times will be like, there won't be anything abnormal about them and we should be ready because we won't see it coming, Matthew 24:36-51.
 
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I'm not looking for debate here.
I would rather we don't debate. I don't care if you are pre-trib, mid-trib, or post-trib.
Jesus said we ought to be watching for His coming, and He told us to watch for the signs.

What have you seen recently, that looks to you like a sign of the end?

Something that excited me today, was when I read about what the Jewish year 5777 means, to rabbis.
5 is the number of Grace.
And 7 is the number of completion.
And 3 repetitions means it's the hand of God at work.

Putting it all together, 5777 means, according to many Jewish rabbis, the year that God completes the work of Grace!

Ephesians 3:2-6 tells us that we are now living in the dispensation of Grace, which is the Gentiles being included in the body of Christ.

Of course, Jesus said there is a time in the future, when the times of the Gentiles will be fulfilled. Luke 21:24

And Paul said in Romans 11:
25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fullness of the Gentiles be come in.
26 And so all Israel shall be saved...

Could this be the year? I am not setting a date... but I'm just wondering.
Watching, waiting, and wondering.

I remember how that in 1917, the Balfour Declaration was issued, opening the land of Palestine to Jewish settlement.
And exactly 50 years later, in the 6-day war, Israel gained control of Jerusalem.

This year, 2017... the year 5777 on the Jewish calendar... is exactly 50 years later.
I'm sitting on the edge of my seat!

I think that would be awesome, but my feeling is that things are going to build up for a little while longer. From my understanding of prophetic scripture, the Antichrist makes a peace treaty with Israel at the beginning of the Tribulation. My belief is that is when they are allowed to start rebuilding the temple, at the middle of the Tribulation the Antichrist goes into the temple and proclaims that he is God.

It doesn't seem like all of that is going to happen in a year, and it may take a lot more time to establish the events which will lay the groundwork for that to happen. I couldn't tell you for sure, and no one really could, because no one really knows. However, I think most Christians feel an anticipation in their spirit about the soon coming of the Lord Jesus. We are to be watchful and pray, keeping our lamps filled with oil. Our anticipation should be centered on being found worthy to escape the terrible things that are coming, and to be found blameless at the Lords return, doing His will and work. To be a bride well prepared for her Groom.
 
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I use to be convinced this clay and iron was Rome. But as more things unfold I am starting to think the mixing of clay and iron is actually transhumanism which is being pushed heavily. The idea of machines merging with men, chips being inserted in people, in their brains and so on. Pretty much everyone suspects that the mark will be RFID in nature. I think it goes a step further. I think (not saying I know for certain) that the beast is the system that will control this tech and the antichrist will sell this tech as once you get the chip you will not die, it will cure all disease and you will live forever and be like God...this is what he told eve and this is what he will tell people in the end, you will be like God, surely you will never die. When we look at this in light of scripture saying in Revelation that men will seek death and not find it....

I agree. There is also hybridization, a mixing of human DNA with animal DNA. This verse deserves scrutiny as to who is they.Obviously it is someone not of the seed of men.
Daniel 2:43 And whereas thou sawest iron mixed with miry clay, they shall mingle themselves with the seed of men: but they shall not cleave one to another, even as iron is not mixed with clay.

Then it says, in the days of these kings...
Daniel 2:44 And in the days of these kings shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom, which shall never be destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be left to other people, but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand for ever.

People shy away from Genesis 6 where the sons of God produced children with the daughters of men called Nephilim. But Lord Jesus said it will be as it was in the days of Noah.
Gen.6:4 The Nephilim were in the earth in those days, and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them: the same were the mighty men that were of old, the men of renown.

Ecc. 3:15 That which hath been is now; and that which is to be hath already been; and God requireth that which is past.
 
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My belief is that is when they are allowed to start rebuilding the temple, at the middle of the Tribulation the Antichrist goes into the temple and proclaims that he is God.

I don't understand this whole rebuilding of the Temple when Jesus clearly made the temple meaningless. He no longer dwells in temples made by human hands so how then can the Anti-Christ go into a temple that isn't even HOLY simply because GOD isn't IN IT.

I believe the REVELATION may just in fact be the AntiChrist being revealed in all those who accepted him in their OWN TEMPLE..aka..body..and all these " men " will say they are GOD.

Shrugs..just a thought.
 
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