Signs of the Times... what do you see?

[UN161]

So I'm just taking a break from watching the transit. Looks nice. The weather's fine where I am. I could see Jupiter below the moon even while the sky was blue, just at dusk. I've got a fire going in the pit but the moon is so bright that it's hurting mt eyes.

I guess it's because of Pentecost. Is that why you think it's interesting? Israel's Pentecost was last Wednesday. Our Churches are celebrating it on Sunday.

Still, it wasn't a bad idea. A Jupiter/Lunar transit on Pentecost. I was never a Feast guy though. I wonder when the real Pentecost is?

It's good to keep your eyes open.

And I just noticed my post is #420, a "third" of 1260. That's the exact number of days from when Jupiter exits the body of Virgo and is then joined in conjunction with Venus, until the sun is "darkened" and then the moon will not give her light.

These numbers are catching my eye.

Y'all need to learn what poetic language is. I can't wait until all them beasts show up as well.

 

[keras]

Well when the stars fall to earth let me know then if you think its literal.

At least a quarter of our Bible consists of prophecy. Some clear prophetic statements, like Jesus’ birth in Bethlehem and His riding on a donkey, have been literally fulfilled.
There are a great many other prophesies detailing specific events and outcomes, that cannot be said to have happened in the past.

One definitive future prophecy is in Acts 1:11…This Jesus who has been taken from you up to heaven, will Return again in the same way you have seen Him go. Confirmed by Rev. 19:11 and is one that we all agree will take place literally.

Another definitive future prophecy is Psalm 9:18-20 But the needy will not always be unheeded, nor will the hope of the destitute be always in vain. Arise O Lord, let not man prevail, let the heathen nations be judged in Your sight. Strike them all with fear, Lord and let the godless peoples know they are but mortal.

This is one of the many prophesies that refers to God’s judgement/punishment of the nations, that isn’t the Return or the final judgement of individuals. There are over 100 prophesies about this forthcoming Day of the Lord’s wrath, His terrible Day of vengeance, that cannot be at the Return in glory, as Jesus comes then with ‘His garments splashed in blood’, Rev 19:13, something that must happen before that, during His wrath against the nations. Isaiah 63:1-6…their blood splashed My garments…..

Isaiah 30:25-33 also prophesies about the Day of the Lord’s wrath. It isn’t hard to see what is allegorical – His arm descending in fierce anger; His lips of wrath; His tongue of fire; plus the metaphors of Assyria and Moloch as ‘types’ of ungodly peoples and idols, all easily seen as referring to arrogant peoples and false worship today.
But the clear and undeniable statement of Isaiah 30:26a The moon will shine as bright as the sun and the sun will shine with seven times its normal brightness. [strength], is a factual description of what the Lord will use on His Day of wrath. Confirmed by the more than 70 other prophesies telling of a Day of fiery judgement upon the earth.
We know from solar studies that the sun can suddenly emit large clouds of superheated plasma, that if earth directed, would seriously affect us all. A Coronal Mass Ejection of unprecedented magnitude striking the earth, can and will literally fulfill all the graphically described prophesies about that Day. It will be the Sixth Seal, Psalm 83 event,

2 Peter 3:7 By the Word of God, the present earth is reserved for burning…on the Day of judgement the godless will be destroyed. Deut. 32:34-35, Rev. 6:12-17
Malachi 4:1-3 The Day comes, burning like a furnace, all the arrogant and evildoers will be as stubble, that Day when it comes will set them ablaze, they will be as ashes under your feet. But for all who fear My Name, the glory of righteousness will come and you will be released from bondage. Isaiah 57:15-20, Isaiah 43:5-7
Isaiah 30:26b…on that Day, the Lord will heal His people…. Isaiah 51:11, Hosea 14:4-8
Matthew 3:12….Jesus will cleanse the Holy Land by fire and gather His own….. Ezekiel 34:11-31, Amos 9:13-15 Rev. 7:9-17

Many prophesies say how the Lord will then gather His righteous people into all of the Holy Land, where they will, at last, be a light to the nations and to prepare for the glorious Return of Jesus for His Millennium reign.

 

[Dave Watchman]

Y'all need to learn what poetic language is. I can't wait until all them beasts show up as well.

That's funny. I heard the poetic apocalyptic language story before from the Preterists and the Amils. I didn't buy it. I think I found enough of the empirical to consider the literal possibility that a sun "turned into darkness" is a full solar eclipse. And that a sun which is merely "darkened" is a partial solar eclipse. One comes "before", the other one comes "immediately" after the tribulation of those days. And that's what we get, that's what's there.

Fourteen days is the closest that a solar and lunar eclipse grouping can occur as part of a non miraculous celestial mechanics event. These screenshots show how they would look on a timeline with each of the red moon icons paired with a solar eclipse by 14 days.

A wider screen would be helpful, try this one instead. This is one of my favorites. It was 1492 and Columbus sailed the ocean blue, there were four blood moons and God was opening up a new continent. A flood was spewing forth from the dragon's mouth but with the help of men like George Washington and Thomas Jefferson a holy place, the "earth" would be made ready to help the Woman after 1260 years of papal persecution came to an end in 1798.

If in Y'All was to try counting the days that transpire in between the groupings of solar and lunar eclipses, you might find numbers that look like these:

(O)14(o) <------------1588------------> (O)14(o)
(O)14(o) <----------1550----------> (O)14(o)
(O)14(o) <---------1372---------> (O)14(o)
(O)14(o) <--------1209--------> (O)14(o)
(O)14(o) <------1195------> (O)14(o)

I was actually looking for something like 1260, 1290 or even 1335 days sandwiched in between two sets of solar and lunar eclipses. But there was no can do. Since that time, I've found other fish to fry by including an ideal candidate for the AofD, planetary conjunctions and various Revelation 12 sign specifications and the 371 days of Noah which spells 777 days when measured from the time that Jupiter leaves the body of Virgo.

<----1260---->
<-----1290-----> 0.976744186046512
<------1335------> 0.966292134831461
<-------1372-------> 0.973032069970845

Follow the Lamb wherever He goes.
Peaceful Sabbath.

 

[Handmaid for Jesus]

Hi Dave. We have discussed this before I think, but, imho,the sun turned to darkness could be a massive coronal hole caused by a massive CME as elder brother Keras believes.

 

[Dave Watchman]

Hi Dave. We have discussed this before I think, but, imho,the sun turned to darkness could be a massive coronal hole caused by a massive CME as elder brother Keras believes.

Hi HMFJ,

It could be. Like they say, anything's possible. But if a CME were to hit that was so massive that it caused Joel's sun "turned into darkness", that event itself would BE the sudden destruction and not the preceding sign to signal trumpet trouble is on the way.

"And there will be signs in the sun and in the moon and stars.​

If the signs themselves wipe us out before the heavens and the earth pass away with a loud noise, what good are they as signs.

Can you see how a monster CME can't be a preceding sign, and still allow for the time of trial to sneak up on the whole world like a snare? But a peculiar eclipse could slip by unnoticed by most.

"The sun will be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood BEFORE the great and terrible Day.​

Not right ON the great and terrible Day, but before.

A giant CME that turned the sun into darkness would probably do so much damage right at the time of it's occurrence, that not enough flesh would be around to say peace and safety and take the mark of the beast.

"And there will be signs in the sun and in the moon and stars.

I think we got them. I think the right ones are here now and we don't have very long to find out.

 

[Handmaid for Jesus]

Hi HMFJ,

It could be. Like they say, anything's possible. But if a CME were to hit that was so massive that it caused Joel's sun "turned into darkness", that event itself would BE the sudden destruction and not the preceding sign to signal trumpet trouble is on the way.

"And there will be signs in the sun and in the moon and stars.​

If the signs themselves wipe us out before the heavens and the earth pass away with a loud noise, what good are they as signs.

Can you see how a monster CME can't be a preceding sign, and still allow for the time of trial to sneak up on the whole world like a snare? But a peculiar eclipse could slip by unnoticed by most.

"The sun will be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood BEFORE the great and terrible Day.​

Not right ON the great and terrible Day, but before.

A giant CME that turned the sun into darkness would probably do so much damage right at the time of it's occurrence, that not enough flesh would be around to say peace and safety and take the mark of the beast.

"And there will be signs in the sun and in the moon and stars.

I think we got them. I think the right ones are here now and we don't have very long to find out.

Well, you are right that we don't have very long to find out. But, I see the sun turning to darkness as a worldwide event with everyone witnessing it at the same time. That is unlike the effects of a total eclipse. I really don't know what kind of effect a massive CME would have on us Earthlings. But I can visualize what a coronal hole would would look like.

 

[Dave Watchman]

Well, you are right that we don't have very long to find out. But, I see the sun turning to darkness as a worldwide event with everyone witnessing it at the same time. That is unlike the effects of a total eclipse.

Hardly anyone saw it. I watched it on the net. Nobody saw it from the ground. It ended over the ocean at the north pole.

"The total solar eclipse begins south of Greenland and passes between Iceland and Scotland. The path of the total solar eclipse ends at the North Pole on the Spring Equinox. This means that totality will greet whoever may be at the pole at the very dawn of the pole's half-year long summer day. This is indeed a very rare circumstance, will anyone be at the pole to see this?
The Polar Solar Eclipse of March 20, 2015
​

It ended right at the north pole. If anyone was there at the time, instead of seeing the sun come up above the horizon for the first time in half a year, they would see it rise as a full eclipse. A very rare circumstance indeed.

But I did see the third moon of the tetrad in person. That's the one I think is from Joel. It was outside my work in the morning. It was a good view but it didn't really look too scary or anything. It wasn't like an apocalyptic special effect picture from the movies. My boss and coworkers were there, they weren't worried that it was the end of the world.

Well, you are right that we don't have very long to find out.

 

[keras]

Hi Dave. We have discussed this before I think, but, imho,the sun turned to darkness could be a massive coronal hole caused by a massive CME as elder brother Keras believes.

Well, its nice to see that someone has read what I post.
As Bible prophecy does say a CME is what the Lord will use on His Day of wrath, Isaiah 30:26a, Psalms 50:1-2, Malachi 4:1, +, we should know what a CME is and what it can do.
Briefly: On the Appointed Day, Isaiah 10:17, the sun will explode out a huge, earth directed mass of superheated hydrogen plasma. The initial super bright flash and the Electro- Magnetic Pulse will arrive here within 8 minutes, causing armed nuke weapons to explode, Jeremiah 49:35, and all electrical systems are destroyed. The EMP will also cause tectonic plate movement, Deuteronomy 32:22, severe worldwide earthquakes.
The sun will be darkened by being obscured by the approaching mass and the moon will burn blood red from the plasma's thermite reaction with the moon dust.
24 hours after the explosion, the main mass will strike the earth, directly onto the Middle East, Zephaniah 2:4, wiping out the entire population, excepting a small remnant in Jerusalem. Isaiah 29:4, Jeremiah 10:18, Psalms 97:3-5, Zephaniah 1:14-18;+ [God's perfect solution to the ME crisis]
But as the earth is rotating and moving at 66,000mph on its orbital track, it quickly moves away and the rest of the world won't be so badly affected. The survivor's will form a One World Govt, but we Christians will gather and live in all of the holy Land. Ezekiel 34:11-31, Psalms 107, Isaiah 35:1-10

 

[dad]

Well when the stars fall to earth let me know then if you think its literal.

Since that is after the Rapture, do you really want to be here to be told they fell?

 

[keras]

Since that is after the Rapture, do you really want to be here to be told they fell?

The great Day of the Lord's wrath; the Sixth Seal, will come upon everyone the whole world over. Luke 21:34-35 Proved by how Revelation 6:15 covers every person. Isaiah 24:1-2
No one will be taken away before this great test of our faith, 1 Peter 4:12, we will all see the cosmic effects and experience the devastation of that Day. Jeremiah 25:29-33
There are some signs to happen before that Day, we should know about. The 'sign of the fig tree budding', has occurred with the Jews establishing their own State in a part of the holy Land. Jesus said: the generation that see this will live to see it all. Matthew 24:32-34, Ezekiel 12:25
Another prophecy that requires fulfilment is Isaiah 3:1-7 and it may be that Micah 5:1 will precede it.
The world is, of course, as in the days of Noah, as they and now we; think is normal life. BUT they and now the modern world, have sidelined their Creator. People say 'there is no God' and the bulk of humans, just ignore the One true God and worship materialism, idols or false gods.
God will correct the situation; He did so before and He will do it again!

 

[dad]

The great Day of the Lord's wrath; the Sixth Seal, will come upon everyone the whole world over. Luke 21:34-35 Proved by how Revelation 6:15 covers every person. Isaiah 24:1-2

We are NOT of the world! After the Rapture we will not even live here. Lots will happen in the world...we are not appointed to wrath.

No one will be taken away before this great test of our faith, 1 Peter 4:12, we will all see the cosmic effects and experience the devastation of that Day. Jeremiah 25:29-33

The wrath is not a test of faith. The wrath is for those who rejected Christ.

There are some signs to happen before that Day, we should know about. The 'sign of the fig tree budding', has occurred with the Jews establishing their own State in a part of the holy Land. Jesus said: the generation that see this will live to see it all. Matthew 24:32-34, Ezekiel 12:25
Another prophecy that requires fulfilment is Isaiah 3:1-7 and it may be that Micah 5:1 will precede it.
The world is, of course, as in the days of Noah, as they and now we; think is normal life. BUT they and now the modern world, have sidelined their Creator. People say 'there is no God' and the bulk of humans, just ignore the One true God and worship materialism, idols or false gods.
God will correct the situation; He did so before and He will do it again!

Noah was taken up and away from the doomed evil world as we will be.

 

[Petros2015]

Luke 21:24-28

Looks like "And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, by reason of the confusion of the roaring of the sea and of the waves"

I don't think we've seen that yet

"For the powers of heaven shall be moved"

I think I've also seen that translated as "the heavenly bodies shall be shaken" and in other areas of scripture "stars fall from heaven" Revelation 6:14

So it sounds like we are talking about a celestial event, big one, maybe multiple impact, maybe ocean centered, causing the roaring of the sea and waves.

In other places Revelation 8:8 "something like a burning mountain cast into the sea".

I haven't seen any distress of nations by reason of the confusion of the roaring of the sea and the waves. But that could come any time, one good asteroid strike, and you'll have it all. ICBMs might also be described as 'stars falling from heaven' with much the same effect. But with focus on signs in sun, moon and stars, and movement in the powers of heaven, I think asteroid is likely.

 

[keras]

We are NOT of the world! After the Rapture we will not even live here. Lots will happen in the world...we are not appointed to wrath.

I suppose that your strong conviction of being raptured outta here before anything nasty happens, is comforting to you.
However, the Bible does not support that idea. We are told to stand firm in our faith and to endure until the end. Revelation 13:9-10
It is faulty assumption to think that being 'not appointed to God's wrath', means removal from it.

The wrath is not a test of faith. The wrath is for those who rejected Christ.

1 Peter 4:12 said the fiery ordeal to come, would come to test us. The time of testing will come, 1 Corinthians 10:13 says that God will provide a way for us to endure. The Bible never says that God will take living people to live in heaven, that idea is false and simply impossible. John 3:13

Noah was taken up and away from the doomed evil world as we will be.

You really are a dreamer!

 

[keras]

Another prophecy that requires fulfilment is Isaiah 3:1-7 and it may be that Micah 5:1 will precede it.

I would like to expand on these quotes:
Isaiah 3:1-7 is specifically about Judah and Jerusalem. It says that they will lose their good leaders and the Lord will appoint incompetent youths to govern.
This prophecy must belong to the present day. Judah is a nation, they control Jerusalem and they have a strong and experienced leader in Benyamin Netanyahu. If anything happened to him, they would be in disarray.
Micah 5:1, is an interesting verse without any context to help explain it, says how Israel's ruler will be struck on the cheek with a rod. A 'rod' is a slang term for a rifle and today it is possible for a sniper to accurately hit people at ranges of up to 2 miles.
Isaiah 3:8-26, goes on to tell how rebel Judah will be brought low; the look on their faces testifies against them! Amazing prophecy, that perfectly fits the arrogant, LGBT and 'stiff necked' people who live in Israel now.
The Lord says: on that Day, I will take away your pride, instead of perfume there will be the stink of decay.....your men will fall by the Sword of the Lord and Zion will be stripped bare.
Wait for the Day!

 

[dad]

I suppose that your strong conviction of being raptured outta here before anything nasty happens, is comforting to you.
However, the Bible does not support that idea. We are told to stand firm in our faith and to endure until the end. Revelation 13:9-10
It is faulty assumption to think that being 'not appointed to God's wrath', means removal from it.

1 Peter 4:12 said the fiery ordeal to come, would come to test us. The time of testing will come, 1 Corinthians 10:13 says that God will provide a way for us to endure. The Bible never says that God will take living people to live in heaven, that idea is false and simply impossible. John 3:13

You really are a dreamer!

Testing doesn't mean wrath. Welcome to testing times. You don't want to experience the wrath of God. Jesus came to help us escape that.