Setting it Straight

[Jimlarmore]

Get a very good dictionary and look up the sources of our words. I just learned this week that our word "hurricane" came the Indians who inhabited Hispanola when Columbus landed. I can show you about 150 words in English that came from the koine Greek in which the NT was written.

My cousin noted that he learned a lot about English when he studied German for his doctorate.

We can learn a lot when we stop being so provincial.

Amen brother, I recently started to learn Spanish. In that language there are a lot of words that we call cognates and are not only spelled similarly to what we call them in english but sound similar in some cases. Then some words are latin derivatives that have a different sound to them but mean the same thing i.e. such as lumos or lights. Lights "luminate" and so it goes. What I don't understand though is how they get mundo for the world or Vida for life. .

God bless
Jim Larmore

 

[happywiththelord]

Really, i have no problem with where words come from. They could come from russia for all i care. Thats not the point. The point is, I live in the United States of America. We speak and read english here. That is the OFFICIAL language. That should be used for everything here! Signs, offical documents, when you call into places it shouldnt be an option, etc. My relatives when they moved to America, they learned to speak english. they stopped using there native tongue. They didnt expect everything to change for them, THEY changed to live here.

 

[JonMiller]

The US doesn't have an official language.

JM

 

[happywiththelord]

can you show me the documention that states that please.

 

[happywiththelord]

i just went and looked it up. it is true, according to wikipedia, the u.s. does not have an official language. however, 82% of americans speak english as there native tongue. 96% speak english well.

so that still supports that people in this country "unoffically" use English as there "language".

 

[happywiththelord]

i copied this from wikipedia as well.

it says, "On May 18, 2006, the Senate voted on an amendment to an immigration reform bill that would declare English the national language of the United States.[2] The immigration reform bill itself, S. 2611, was passed in the Senate on May 25, 2006, and now has to go back to the House of Representatives in conference to make sure amendments are agreed upon."


So it looks as if English will be our official language afterall.

 

[mva1985]

Got to love the reference to the KKK (AGAIN) !!!

 

[mva1985]

All I can say is WOW!!!

 

[happywiththelord]

well this is from my obersavtion.

I noticed that race didnt get broght up till (and please forgive me) but the African-American people brought it up in this thread. That seems to happen most the time. It is the African Americans who almost always play the race card. So who is the one holding on to the past and being racist?

Really, this isnt a post i care to discuss. Just because talking about this issue will never get anywhere. I can see that from the discussions that have occured already. People seem to have there sides, and are not willing to budge from them.

So no disrespect, and i dont do this out of being narrow minded or afraid, i do it out of an educated observation.

This is just my opinion.

 

[JonMiller]

Umm, did you really read this thread? An african-american person was not the first person to bring up racism in this thread. Why do you make prejudiced 'educated observations'?

JM

 

[happywiththelord]

See!

 

[JonMiller]

I Am not african-american. But I do see your statement as being wrong, in this case.

JM

 

[StormyOne]

if people make racist statements often enough at some point you begin to wonder if in fact they are racist..... this thread is unbelievable.....

 

[moicherie]

"It IS time to wake up America, because if YOU don't do something about this invasion, tomorrow this country will not be ours!"

Too late the invasion took place in 1492 or thereabouts..... from then on the continent never belonged to the indigenous population..

 

[StormyOne]

"It IS time to wake up America, because if YOU don't do something about this invasion, tomorrow this country will not be ours!"

Too late the invasion took place in 1492 or thereabouts..... from then on the continent never belonged to the indigenous population..

that was the first one... there were several more.... and the indigenous folks were ummmm pushed aside, and that would be an understatement.... of course that would be in the "past." Interesting how some cling to "traditional" (historic) things, but then suggest that people should not live in the past..... go figure....

 

[Eila]

Just a few things I've experienced personally:

- One year I worked in two different public schools in the same school district. One was in a poorer area of the city with mostly minorities. One was in a middle class area with mostly whites. As part of my job I would occasionally sit in a teacher's class to observe a student. There was a marked difference between the two schools. The level of instruction in the poorer school was to help kids pass their yearly test. The level of instruction in the middle class school was designed to meet the child's needs and help them achieve to their highest ability.

- It is very difficult to immigrate to this country legally now. Right now it isn't the "tired, poor, huddled masses yearning to be free" that can enter the borders, but those who "win the lottery". I had an immigration official tell me how much stricter things are now than they were even 20-30 years ago.

 

[happywiththelord]

How long are you gonna allow yourselves to be a victim? It didnt happen to you personally. We musn't hold on to what happened to our ancestors, that is not a cross we are meant to bear. It was for them. For whatever reason. But it doesn't pertain to us today unless you allow it. Is it healthy for a rape victim or somebody else who has had something bad happen to them to keep holding on to that incident? Or is it best for them to find peace and move on? I say the latter. I would say for the example posted, that yes, that person was the victim most definetly! If they can and should move on with there lifes, then so should someone who isnt actually the victim. They should allow themselved to move on. Since like i said before, it didnt personally involve them.

We all have had horrible things in our lives happen. But do we stop and stay in that moment of time, always referring back to it? No. We need to move on. Stop allowing the post to rule our present and our future!

Rise up above it and move on.

 

[StormyOne]

those who went through the Holocaust in WW2 made a vow to never let anyone ever forget.... one can only imagine what a jewish person would say to someone who told them that what happened to them was in the past and they needed to move on.....

 

[Loveaboveall]

And what would you suggest we do?

I was talking with our new pastor yesterday about the separation in our churches and NOT what we should do about it but what we CAN do about it. We all know what should be done, but that is not realistic...

He related to me a story of what went down in the northeast not sure which conference/union... Apparently the leaders of the "white" conference got together with the "black" conference leaders and suggested that the separation be dissolved and to merge into one conference... This was instantly rejected by the "black" conference leaders and was not even considered. Apparently it was an issue of job security. It was related to me that the constituents of the 2 conferences would have recieved this merging but the leadership were more concerned, as I said, with job security and they knew that there would be half the jobs if the merger took place.

So, what CAN be done? It is unrealistic to think that the leadership of the conference or union of which you belong, black or white, are willing to do what is right. What you can do is go out and evangelize in your own area. You can turn your church into a multicultural haven for blacks and whites. If the members were willing to do this we would soon not have these separate conferences because the churches would not be separated by race. It won't start from the top, it has got to start from the bottom up.

 

[Loveaboveall]

those who went through the Holocaust in WW2 made a vow to never let anyone ever forget.... one can only imagine what a jewish person would say to someone who told them that what happened to them was in the past and they needed to move on.....

This is not Christlike and demonstrates a spirit of unforgiveness... And it would do well for anyone to move past the wrongs of the past and look forward to the future. Nothing you can do about the past anyways, is there? My ancestors were persecuted by the catholic church, mercilessly, not just asked to sit in the back of the bus but there children were strung up on spears and there heads were bashed in. I am persecuted just about every day for my belief in Jesus on some level... Should we continually moan and groan about it or should we demonstrate Jesus' love to those who have persecuted our ancestors in the past and those who persecute us today?