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Where Have All The Good Times Gone?

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You libs are so generous with other people's money, lol.
Its my money too. Just like with any collective decision we make about how the nation should spend.

Im not even arguing for a reparations policy at all. Im just pointing out what kind of issue it is.
 
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How do they sort it out? There were black slave owners and black people who came to America after the Civil War.
Agree. It's not possible to sort it out.
 
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Agree. It's not possible to sort it out.
Exactly! Youre getting it!

Responsibility is not sortable into this or that ethnicity or region. Its a USA national collective issue.
 
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Exactly! Youre getting it!

Responsibility is not sortable into this or that ethnicity or region. Its a USA national collective issue.
Okay. So tell me who we should give money to.
 
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Okay. So tell me who we should give money to.
Who says it should just be giving out money? Maybe thats a good policy, maybe not.

I just chimed in to dispel this idea that reparations is about applying guilt to specific individuals, ethnicities, or locales.
 
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Okay. So tell me who we should give money to.
Btw arent I supposed to be on extra strength ignore? What does it take anymore when Howard Jones fails?
 
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Who says it should just be giving out money? Maybe thats a good policy, maybe not.

I just chimed in to dispel this idea that reparations is about applying guilt to specific individuals, ethnicities, or locales.
So you don't know who should pay, who should be paid, or how they should be paid. Get back to me when you know what you're talking about.
 
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So you don't know who should pay, who should be paid, or how they should be paid. Get back to me when you know what you're talking about.
Its a whole big discussion and I dont want to get into it. I just needed to chime in because someone had a very common misconception about how the responsibility side of the issue should be framed..... a misconception thats often relied on to invalidate the reparations idea right off the bat.
 
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Let the record reflect, and let it be duly noted, that Bradskii thinks 9/11 was "cool". smh smh smh
Some things are so overwhelming that a part of you disassociate from the human tragedy and it becomes a spectacle in itself. It's a protective mechanism. One death is a tragedy, a million is a statistic. It's obviously horrifying to watch the planes hit. But at the same time, it's difficult not to watch. Yet it's extremely hard to not turn away when you see an individual drop from one of the windows.
 
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Let the record reflect, and let it be duly noted, that Bradskii thinks 9/11 was "cool". smh smh smh

Let the record show that I enthusiastically believe that 9/11 was cool. It was like having a front row seat to one of the greatest events in American history. My parents got to live through the Great Depression, the Dust Bowl, WWII, Korea, Vietnam, the 50's, the 60's, and the Kennedy assassinations... so I'm pretty sure that I've got some catching up to do as far as living in interesting times goes. You may not appreciate struggles, but I absolutely revere them. They're not to be bemoaned, they're to be cherished.

Struggles, and how we rise to overcome them are one of the few things that make life worth living and our ancestors worth remembering. Happiness and bliss may make for a noble quest, but it's the struggles that allow you to appreciate them.

So have your moments of horror and grieving, and then file them away in your repository of hallowed memories... not because you had to endure them, but because you got to.
 
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I'm pretty sure some liberals of today, would likely have been dead in the 1800's, because if this is too much to handle, those few certainly couldn't have handled no electricity or transportation.

Essentially, today is a battle between the living, and a few hypothetical dead.
 
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Let the record show that I enthusiastically believe that 9/11 was cool. It was like having a front row seat to one of the greatest events in American history. My parents got to live through the Great Depression, the Dust Bowl, WWII, Korea, Vietnam, the 50's, the 60's, and the Kennedy assassinations... so I'm pretty sure that I've got some catching up to do as far as living in interesting times goes. You may not appreciate struggles, but I absolutely revere them. They're not to be bemoaned, they're to be cherished.

Struggles, and how we rise to overcome them are one of the few things that make life worth living and our ancestors worth remembering. Happiness and bliss may make for a noble quest, but it's the struggles that allow you to appreciate them.

So have your moments of horror and grieving, and then file them away in your repository of hallowed memories... not because you had to endure them, but because you got to.

Tell that to your they/them friends, when they complain.
 
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Let the record show that I enthusiastically believe that 9/11 was cool. It was like having a front row seat to one of the greatest events in American history. My parents got to live through the Great Depression, the Dust Bowl, WWII, Korea, Vietnam, the 50's, the 60's, and the Kennedy assassinations... so I'm pretty sure that I've got some catching up to do as far as living in interesting times goes. You may not appreciate struggles, but I absolutely revere them. They're not to be bemoaned, they're to be cherished.

Struggles, and how we rise to overcome them are one of the few things that make life worth living and our ancestors worth remembering. Happiness and bliss may make for a noble quest, but it's the struggles that allow you to appreciate them.

So have your moments of horror and grieving, and then file them away in your repository of hallowed memories... not because you had to endure them, but because you got to.
All I have to do is think about the people walking away from the site with a lungful of concrete dust just to die of cancer a few years later and that ruins the "cool".
 
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Some things are so overwhelming that a part of you disassociate from the human tragedy and it becomes a spectacle in itself. It's a protective mechanism. One death is a tragedy, a million is a statistic. It's obviously horrifying to watch the planes hit. But at the same time, it's difficult not to watch. Yet it's extremely hard to not turn away when you see an individual drop from one of the windows.
Yeah I know. I was just ribbing you.
Let the record show that I enthusiastically believe that 9/11 was cool. It was like having a front row seat to one of the greatest events in American history. My parents got to live through the Great Depression, the Dust Bowl, WWII, Korea, Vietnam, the 50's, the 60's, and the Kennedy assassinations... so I'm pretty sure that I've got some catching up to do as far as living in interesting times goes. You may not appreciate struggles, but I absolutely revere them. They're not to be bemoaned, they're to be cherished.

Struggles, and how we rise to overcome them are one of the few things that make life worth living and our ancestors worth remembering. Happiness and bliss may make for a noble quest, but it's the struggles that allow you to appreciate them.

So have your moments of horror and grieving, and then file them away in your repository of hallowed memories... not because you had to endure them, but because you got to.
If you like death and destruction that much, you should move to Gaza.
 
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....So have your moments of horror and grieving, and then file them away in your repository of hallowed memories... not because you had to endure them, but because you got to.
But I didnt endure too much from 9-11. I wasnt there. I didnt go fight in Afgh afterward - nor did my friends.

Airport security got tougher tho. So I guess I suffered.
 
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All I have to do is think about the people walking away from the site with a lungful of concrete dust just to die of cancer a few years later and that ruins the "cool".
If you like death and destruction that much, you should move to Gaza.

It's not the suffering that you need to be focusing on... it's the courage, the fortitude, and the perseverance that comes embodied in that suffering.

Rob the world of its struggles, and you rob it of much of its beauty.

Indeed it's natural to grieve, but it's also natural to be proud. Don't think that one negates the other, when in truth it's only through one that life creates the other.

Take life, with all of its ugliness and suffering, and hold it in your hands... yes, there's suffering, but there's also beauty.

Be proud, and honored, and appreciative, for you have life, and don't begrudge that from which its beauty comes.
 
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It's not the suffering that you need to be focusing on... it's the courage, the fortitude, and the perseverance that comes embodied in that suffering.

Rob the world of its struggles, and you rob it of much of its beauty.

Indeed it's natural to grieve, but it's also natural to be proud. Don't think that one negates the other, when in truth it's only through one that life creates the other.

Take life, with all of its ugliness and suffering, and hold it in your hands... yes, there's suffering, but there's also beauty.

Be proud, and honored, and appreciative, for you have life, and don't begrudge that from which its beauty comes.
Very well written.
 
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It's not the suffering that you need to be focusing on... it's the courage, the fortitude, and the perseverance that comes embodied in that suffering.

Rob the world of its struggles, and you rob it of much of its beauty.

Indeed it's natural to grieve, but it's also natural to be proud. Don't think that one negates the other, when in truth it's only through one that life creates the other.

Take life, with all of its ugliness and suffering, and hold it in your hands... yes, there's suffering, but there's also beauty.

Be proud, and honored, and appreciative, for you have life, and don't begrudge that from which its beauty comes.
I wish I knew where you are, so I could punch you in the face for no reason and you could tell me about the beauty of it.
 
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