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It isn't a law written in ink for the believer, but one written by the Spirit of God on tablets of human hearts(2Cor3:3)By the word of GOD
Matthew 4:4
But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.
Every word that God has ever stated is not in my heart no, as it is not in yours either
That contradicts the bible concerning where the law is for the believer. God gave/spoke 613 laws under the old covenant, Christians are not expected to follow all of them under the new covenant. Why not look at it from Paul's point of viewThen I guess we have to rely on the "ink" in the Holy Bible
God declared His day--as He told Adam and Eve--don't eat of that tree--it was plain enough--the 4th is plain enough--it is clearly stated.
Seems highly unlikely for God to get all riled up about a piece of fruit. He said don't do it--they did. He said worship me this day--enough said. Cain didn't think it was a big deal to worship God his own way either.
Gen 2:2 And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made.
Gen 2:3 And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.
There were no Jews in the Garden of Eden when He established it.
And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: What do you think He meant by that seeing as the Sabbath was made for man and not man for the Sabbath?
Exo 20:11 For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.
He did--it's called the 4th commandment.
The apostles didn't have to shout it out--they lived it as did Jesus---They were Jews! There was almost a civil war when they said circumcision was no longer needed---had that been the case with the Sabbath, another very Sacred thing to all of them--WWW 1 would have erupted. But since nobody said such aa thing--why would it need to be mentioned?
The mark of the beast has to do with worship--obviously, since it says "and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years."
Since it is about worshiping what is obviously not God--which in itself is breaking another commandment--"thou shalt have no other gods before me" -- why would you think this has anything to do with covenant's?
No, the apostles did not meet on the 1st day of the week to worship on Sunday. There is not one verse that states they worshiped on that day.
he reason RCC can claim they changed the day is because they did.
The disciples did not, nor did Jesus. Name one verse that states The first day if the week will now be the new Sabbath in honor of my resurrection?
Anything that God made Holy, can only be made unholy by Him. He wrote it, Jesus would have clearly said He changed it. Never did.
As to why non-Catholics are wanting this--because they follow tradition instead of the plain it is written. Doesn't matter to them, t's a day off. I personally don't care what day of the week the Sabbath day is--could be Tuesday for all I care---who it does matter to, and who said it is this day only---is God--And Him I don't think I will argue with about it. He made it Holy--that is enough for me.
It has all the legal authority of the governments of those countries. And by government decree---it affects every single citizen of those countries. It is the law of the land.
It is not SDA that define Christianity--it is the RCC by law defining Christianity. Denominational narcissism---always has been.
Yep--they just did not change the commandment of God.
It will be--it is their aim, always has been. There have been several Protestant churches that have gone back to the RCC-- also in the UK--it is what the ecumenical movement is all about--unity--but under the Pope.
That contradicts the bible concerning where the law is for the believer. God gave/spoke 613 laws in the OT, Christians are not expected to follow all of them under the new covenant. Why not look at it from Paul's point of view
Carry each others burdens(love them) and so fulfil the law of Christ Gal6:2
That's much simpler isn't it
Because Paul was given his message by Christ himself to preach, and he said for the believer it is not a law written in ink but by the spirit of the living God on the heart. This is the same as the prophecy given in Jeremiah, and twice repeated in Hebrews:Why do you quote the "ink" of Paul but not accept the "ink" of GOD'S law?
It means sin became more visible -- it was seen more fully as the Spirit expanded on the law. Again, why are sinful passions aroused in those who are led by the Spirit--because we have a sinful nature through Jesus Christ is the only way to overcome.
Because Paul was given his message by Christ himself to preach, and he said for the believer it is not a law written in ink but by the spirit of the living God on the heart. This is the same as the prophecy given in Jeremiah, and twice repeated in Hebrews:
I will write my laws in their minds
And place them on their hearts
Then he adds
Their sins and lawless deeds I will remember no more
This is the condemnation
Romans 6:23
For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
This is being under the law
Revelation 20:12
And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.
What standard are we to be judged by?
I know that SDA ... then all remaining people will need to be without sin through their own efforts
Like Paul, I am "persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come, nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord. (Romans 8:38-39)
You cannot know this as it is not true. It appears that you will believe what ever you are told or read. If you have proof of this please provide it.
You have attacked my faith by repeating a lie.
Attack that is the methodology of Satan.
We are Saved by the Grace of JESUS not through our own efforts at any time. That is the teaching of Seventh-day-Adventists
John 14:15
If ye love me, keep my commandments.
The fourth one in relation to a Saturday sabbath is not. And you only decided you should follow it because it is written in ink, that is not where the law is for the believerIs
The 10 Commandments List, Short Form*
written in your heart?
- You shall have no other gods before Me.
- You shall not make idols.
- You shall not take the name of the LORD your God in vain.
- Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy.
- Honor your father and your mother.
- You shall not murder.
- You shall not commit adultery.
- You shall not steal.
- You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.
- You shall not covet.
Sinfull passions are not aroused in those led by the Spirit, Rom7:5 does not refer to the new covenant. It refers to sinfull passions being aroused in people by the law when they live under it. Paul gave an example of this in rom7:8, he is speaking of his life as a phariseePerhaps they were not being led by the Spirit. What are their fruits? Are they producing any fruit of the Spirit? (Love, joy, peace, kindness, etc.) Someone who is led by the Spirit should be producing fruit of the Spirit in some way. If they aren't then they are more susceptible to their own sinful natures.
Is
The 10 Commandments List, Short Form*
written in your heart?
- You shall have no other gods before Me.
- You shall not make idols.
- You shall not take the name of the LORD your God in vain.
- Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy.
- Honor your father and your mother.
- You shall not murder.
- You shall not commit adultery.
- You shall not steal.
- You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.
- You shall not covet.
The fourth one in relation to a Saturday sabbath is not.
You see, you are not like LGW and bobryan(I assume from what you write). They believe you are not under the condemnation of the law so long as you do not break it. You are not justified by the law but can only be in a justified state if you do not break the law. Your sins and lawless deeds will only be remembered no more providing you do not break the law.
Do you believe a Christian remains in a justified state if they fail to obey the law?Are you quoting someone? ... "you" maybe?
If the law is written on your heart as you say through the Holy Spirit He will also lead you to keep the Sabbath holy.
Though the old testiment speaks of the prohibitation of homosexuality our Holy Spirit still convicts the heart to obstain.
Do you believe a Christian remains in a justified state if they fail to obey the law?
Are they not condemned by the law if they break it?
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