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You assume your perception of the Word's meaning is the correct one.What is more authoritative, your perception of reality or the Inspired, Inerrant word of God?
Read my post 258, above.
I have never made such a claim and neither does the bible. John makes it clear, "If we say we have no sin we lie and the truth is not in us."Yes I’m aware of what the scriptures say but can you name someone who doesn’t sin?
If you mean I believe it says what it means and means what it says, you are correct.You assume your perception of the Word's meaning is the correct one.
Paul took it very seriously. He referred to himself as a δοῦλος, a slave.You obviously take the slavery metaphor to lengths Paul never intended.
If you mean I believe it says what it means and means what it says, you are correct.
Paul took it very seriously. He referred to himself as a δοῦλος, a slave.
Romans 1:1 Paul, a servant (δοῦλος - slave) of Jesus Christ, called to be an apostle, separated unto the gospel of God.
The passion of Christianity comes from deliberately signing away our own rights and becoming a bondservant of Jesus Christ.
And Paul said he still struggled with sin. Deliberately signing? Impossible, if grace is irresistible. The nice thing about Calvinists is how they constantly contradict themselves. Being a slave to sin doesn't mean we can't repent when convicted, and being slaves to Christ doesn't mean we can't sin. We still make free choices.The passion of Christianity comes from deliberately signing away our own rights and becoming a bondservant of Jesus Christ.
1 Corinthians 2:14 Now the natural man doesn’t receive the things of God’s Spirit, for they are foolishness to him, and he can’t know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
Romans 8:7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
Being a slave to sin doesn't mean we can't repent when convicted, and being slaves to Christ doesn't mean we can't sin. We still make free choices.
Yes, Paul made that clear.REALLY get the context of what he's talking about.
The difference is that the unsaved man has only the Old nature, and the saved man has both the Old and New nature.Being a slave to sin doesn't mean we can't repent when convicted, and being slaves to Christ doesn't mean we can't sin.
"Free will" as nothing to do with making choices. We all make choices every day. "Free will" deals with the condition of the person.We still make free choices.
Faith is a fruit of the Holy Spirit. Don't confuse it with the Charismatic Gifts the Apostles received at Pentecost.
The difference is that the unsaved man has only the Old nature, and the saved man has both the Old and New nature.
The old nature is only able to sin. The new nature is only able to not sin. The two together, in the saved man, results in both.
"Free will" as nothing to do with making choices. We all make choices every day. "Free will" deals with the condition of the person.
Grace is efficacious. God never fails. His grace never fails. It always accomplishes exactly what He intended it to accomplish.
Giving God all the glory in salvation is something that mighty idol of free will cannot do
Why do you see that verse as applying to individuals?
I see it as applying to Christ which is a many membered body.
If my will is free, then I am not a sinner.
If I am a sinner and my will is free, then I will that I should no longer sin.
It just doesn't work.
The only thing that works accords with those Scriptures which assert that God chose to free my will from bondage to sin.
Ephesians 2:1-5,
"And you were dead in the trespasses and sins in which you once walked, following the course of this world, following the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that is now at work in the sons of disobedience— among whom we all once lived in the passions of our flesh, carrying out the desires of the body and the mind, and were by nature children of wrath, like the rest of mankind. But God, being rich in mercy, because of the great love with which he loved us, even when we were dead in our trespasses, made us alive..."
Faith of human origin is not biblical faith. It comes from the flesh and is sinful if we try to offer it up to God. True faith is a fruit of the Holy Spirit and is acceptable to God.So you boiled down all the Bible verses and replied back with a one line unbiblical quip that had nothing to do with the Bible verses quoted? You are clearly convinced of what you want to be convinced of. But all you have provided in my view is circular arguments that don't justify your position.
How can we who are nothing but sin stop being sin unless an external source of righteousness provides an alternative for our thoughts and actions?This is absolutely forcing words into a mode which you think you have a right to do but most certainly don't. The human spirit IS NOT FLESH. The human spirit is not a nature.
The human spirit has come under bondage to a type of nature but as it comes into illumination it can make a choice to receive God's Spirit or stay in the darkness. It is not forced to, made to or being controlled by Calvinistic irresistible grace. And to say one is born again before one repents is ludicrous.
The Bible says the word of God, the gospel is the power of God which provides salvation. 1 Pt 1:23 talks about being born again and it says it comes about by the word of God itself!
For you have been born again, not of perishable seed, but of imperishable, through the living and enduring word of God. 1 Pt 1:23
Mark 4 talks about the "Sower Sows The Word" Which means the farmer plants the seed OR the preacher preaches the word.
Calvinists put forth that God is somehow working on people without the word to get them born again but they're putting this as born again before they're even instructed to repent! .....They're calling the preaching of the word the thing to cause people to repent but have them born again before they actually do so! No justification for this way of thinking except to force words into modes to defend their beliefs.
The preaching of the gospel which is the hearing of the actual words of life produces the new birth, not some metaphysical non-word influence. I will say this that God probably does work behind the scene in many people's lives to prepare their hearts to maybe be more receptive to the word of God but that is not by any means being born again before repentance. Repentance leads to born again not born again to repentance!
I have never made such a claim and neither does the bible. John makes it clear, "If we say we have no sin we lie and the truth is not in us."
Read 258 again. All of it. Especially the last clause, "but the Old man is still able to sin, and does."
Why not? Because the Christian has both the old and the new nature, just as John says.
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