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Satanic High Priest's Claim About The Origin Of Evolution

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Guess how I know you didn't actually read his article. Would you like me to show it to you?
As Phoneman-777 has not responded to this, would you be willing to tell the other people who read this thread how you know?

I don't know Koine Greek; I figured it was pretty close to modern Greek. My bad.
My personal knowledge of Koine Greek is fairly low (and Modern Greek essentially nothing) so this is secondhand information, but what I've heard repeatedly from people who do know Koine/Modern Greek is that the Greek of the New Testament is about as similar to Modern Greek as the English of the King James Bible is to Modern English.
 
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Screenshot 2023-07-08 at 15-59-42 On the survival of paleoforms.jpg


This is how I knew he hadn't read the article.
 
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My personal knowledge of Koine Greek is fairly low (and Modern Greek essentially nothing) so this is secondhand information, but what I've heard repeatedly from people who do know Koine/Modern Greek is that the Greek of the New Testament is about as similar to Modern Greek as the English of the King James Bible is to Modern English.
Obviously, a Greek scholar I am not.
 
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How do you think I so easily refuted his idea? There is, of course, another, less mathematical goof he made. You see, his calculations also depend on events being random. As you learned earlier, Darwin's great discovery was that it isn't random.


Thanks. I can always use prayer. I'll pray for you too.

"Your faith in God should be a net, not a sharp stick."


That's the great thing. Even if you deny the way He created species, it won't affect your salvation, unless you make an idol of it, and insist that other Christians must believe it to be saved. So long as you don't do that, God doesn't care what you think of the way He did it.

I really hope you will be saved. If nothing else, it will be interesting to see the look on your face when you realize who else is there with you.
Denying a six day Creation will likely result in being deceived into following the Beast and the fate which goes along with that...the Beast, like you, has said for years that the first 11 chapters of Genesis are allegorical.

I'm not out here to merely when a philosophical argument - souls are at stake, which is why I strive to expose the errors of evolution which you'll soon discern after I get done with praying for you ;)
 
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Wrong:

Even some creationist organizations admit that new species, genera, and sometimes families evolve from others.
Evolutionists occasionally break ranks, and so it is with the Creationists. Any Creationist who denies Genesis which says "after his kind" has turned his scientific knowledge into an idol.
I showed you that your error was in assuming that erosion is constant over the whole earth and that there is no deposition of sediment anywhere, among other misconceptions. If you thought about it for a bit, I think you'd see why that would be impossible.
600 million years of erosion and the fossil record is still intact, huh? Your faith is going to be an unbelievable asset to the Creationist crowd once your converted, friend.
 
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That's the great thing. Even if you deny the way He created species, it won't affect your salvation, unless you make an idol of it, and insist that other Christians must believe it to be saved. So long as you don't do that, God doesn't care what you think of the way He did it.

I really hope you will be saved. If nothing else, it will be interesting to see the look on your face when you realize who else is there with you.

Denying a six day Creation will likely result in being deceived into following the Beast and the fate which goes along with that...the Beast, like you, has said for years that the first 11 chapters of Genesis are allegorical.
The Beast actually is yet to show himself. And no, most of his followers say the first chapters of Genesis are literal. As you know, God doesn't care what you think about literal or allegorical or even a mixture. It's not a salvation issue. You're drifting toward making an idol of your personal interpretation and that could put your salvation at risk.

I'm not out here to merely when a philosophical argument - souls are at stake,
Which is why you need to avoid conflating your new doctrine of YE creationism with God's word.
 
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This is how I knew he hadn't read the article.
I see you didn't read the part about "embarrassment to all the commonly accepted models of geological formation", right?

The man is agreeing with me, friend, that erosion should have wiped everything out many times over. What about Pangea? How the heck can the puzzle still appear to fit together after the continents supposedly broke up 200+ million years ago?

You need to recognize two things:

1) the atheistic scientific community can never allow a Creationist challenge to stand
2) they know their weakest arguments succeed when surrounded by tons of exaggerated science
 
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Yeah..... I'll believe his claims about demon worshiping secret societies and "end times" satanic plots when pigs fly. This is John Todd and Mike Warnke levels of religious grift.

-CryptoLutheran

There's nothing in Scripture that suggests there are, or ever would be, secret societies of devil followers/worshipers.

Scripture instead assumes that we are, by nature of our captivity to our sinful passions, apart from Christ, enslaved--to sin, death, hell, and the devil. In Hebrews 2:14 the author says that Christ defeated the devil and the the power the devil wielded against us, death. It is not that the devil is in control of creation, or in control of the world as some kind of puppet master; but the devil is a liar, a thief, and a murderer and because of the Fall we have inherited Adam's damaged human nature and inhabit a world that is now plagued by the tyranny of death.

The idea of secret cabals of devil worshipers creates the idea that the universe is a battle ground between competing cosmic forces, one good and one evil. This is something known as "cosmic dualism":

It was a chief doctrine of the Zoroastrian religion of Persia which taught that there were two cosmic principles, one good represented by Ahura Mazda, the good lord; and one evil represented by Angra Mainyu the evil spirit. According to Zoroastrian dogma there would one day be a final showdown between the forces of good and evil, and human beings ultimately had to take a side in this life, and in the end good would triumph over evil. This form of dualism would be complimented with Gnostic/Platonic matter dualism in the Manichaean religion, the founder of Manichaeanism, Mani, was from 3rd century Persia and had been raised in a Gnostic sect known as the Elkasites. According to Mani there were two cosmic principles of dark and light, good and evil, matter and spirit, etc. The influence of Manichaeanism on later heretical movements, such as the Paulicians of Armenia, the Bogomils of Bulgaria, and the Cathars of France, is fairly evident.

So there has always been a struggle within Christianity against these false and heretical doctrines. This cosmic dualism is antithetical to the teaching of Scripture, antithetical to everything Christian. The devil is not an evil god, evil is not a cosmic principle in contrast to good. Rather, there is only overarching cosmic principle, and that's God, and God is good. Evil, therefore, is not the cosmic opposite of good; instead evil is the deprivation, the perversion, the distortion of the good. In the beginning God created all things and what did He say about everything He made? He called everything good. Was the devil created evil? No, the devil is a creature and was originally created good. In the same way, Adam and Eve were created good, but what happened when they believed the lie of the serpent?

Evil is not a cosmic principle or force, it is the absence of the good, the perversion of the good, the distortion of the good. It is not evil that man desires to have sex, to procreate, to reproduce--in the beginning God commanded that all things reproduce. Sex isn't evil, sex is good and was part of God's good created order. But when sin entered the picture, our desires became depraved, corrupted, distorted; the Image of God with which we were created in has been twisted and malformed. That's what evil is, it is deprivation and distortion and the absence of good.

I bring all this up because when we see these conspiracy theories about secret societies of devil worshipers, and deep conspiratorial plans to create one world governments or whatever, it all plays into a deeply and fundamentally NON-Christian view of the world. It is an unbiblical view of reality. Because it imagines this world as a cosmic battleground between two opposing forces, because it grants to the devil god-like power and ability, it glorifies Satan and blasphemes God.

Resist the devil and he will flee. That's what the Bible says. Consider that seriously, it says "resist the devil", that's it. He's such a low-life coward that just resisting him makes him flee in terror.

Paul wrote "We are more than conquerors through Him", think about that. And think about what Jesus said, "Do not rejoice that the devils submit to you, but rejoice that your names are written in heaven."

Consider the deep contrast: The devil is called the prince of the powers of the air and a "god of this world". And yet the one who belongs to Christ and bears His name rests in Him who has crushed the old snake's head under foot. Christ is risen from the dead, the devil is defeated. Christ is risen, hell is in ruins. Christ is risen, death is dead.

So who are you, O Christian, in relation to the devil? Yours is the victory already, for Christ is Victor. The devil is a liar, so call him a liar, he shall flee. The devil is a thief, but there is nothing that he can take from you if your treasure is in Christ. The devil is a murderer, but why should you fear those that can harm only the body, fear only God.

You are a child of the Almighty Maker of heaven and earth, the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ. You are the little lamb of the Good Shepherd who watches over His flock, and will search high and low for the smallest of His lambs. He finds what is broken and He heals it. He finds what is dead and raises it. He finds the poor and blesses them. You have all things in Christ who died for you.

The devil is unworthy of our fear. He is a pathetic worm to be smooshed. As Martin Luther wrote five hundred years ago in his hymn,

"For lo! his doom is sure.
One little word shall fell him.

That word above all earthly powers,
no thanks to them abideth,
the Spirit and the gifts are ours
through Him who with us sideth."

-CryptoLutheran

Wrong. The bible actually talks about those things you are dismissing. People who are doing devil worshipping activities, like what is talked about in the videos, are doing contrary to Exodus 20:3-5. Nothing is new under the sun, what has been done in the past is being done again. These demon worshipping secret societies is what the people in the book of kings were doing to cause God anger when Israel had wicked kings. It is a thing. It's also in other books of the bible besides the ones I'm mentioning. The bible says how people will have a form a godliness but deny the power. To just brush things off is a disservice.
 
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Wrong. The bible actually talks about those things you are dismissing. People who are doing devil worshipping activities, like what is talked about in the videos, are doing contrary to Exodus 20:3-5. Nothing is new under the sun, what has been done in the past is being done again. These demon worshipping secret societies is what the people in the book of kings were doing to cause God anger when Israel had wicked kings. It is a thing. It's also in other books of the bible besides the ones I'm mentioning. The bible says how people will have a form a godliness but deny the power. To just brush things off is a disservice.

There were no devil-worshiping secret societies in either of the books of the Kings. No book of the Bible mentions devil worshiping secret societies.

-CryptoLutheran
 
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There were no devil-worshiping secret societies in either of the books of the Kings. No book of the Bible mentions devil worshiping secret societies.

-CryptoLutheran
The arrogance of fools is as prominent today as it was in antiquity...probably worse today, seeing that back in the day, at least people believed in the kingdom of darkness, while today everyone is so "enlightened" by pseudoscience that to them even the Mystery of God is finished.
 
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Friend, it's not a question if you'll ever believe it - you will eventually believe Roger's testimony like y9ou were there sitting next to him when all that happened. The question is, will you cease from unbelief before it's too late.
Could be, mate.
But that ain't the way to bet.
 
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Why not? Scriptures teach that the devil is the god of this world.
A fraudulent lower-case "god", anyway.
In the desert he offered Jesus the kingdoms of this world and all their splendor. He couldn't have done that if he didn't have the power to offer such things.
Really? Boy, I guess when the Father of Lies makes a promise we can bank on it, huh? <Laugh>
I believe he certainly does give people money and power and prestige in exchange for worship. Why wouldn't he?
Better question is why would he bother?
 
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Are you saying Satan doesn't exist?
Sure he exists... at God's sufferance. When God is done with him Nick is toast.
Again, Jesus was offered the kingdoms of the world by the devil in exchange for worship.
And I'll sell you a lovely place down in Marshall County at a price you can't resist. No need to do a title search, trust me.
Do you not think the devil would offer the same things to the people of this world if they would but serve him?
Offer? Sure, why not?
 
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The arrogance of fools is as prominent today as it was in antiquity...probably worse today, seeing that back in the day, at least people believed in the kingdom of darkness, while today everyone is so "enlightened" by pseudoscience that to them even the Mystery of God is finished.
And the moral of the story is we should still believe Mike Warnke?
Pass.
 
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There's nothing in Scripture that suggests there are, or ever would be, secret societies of devil followers/worshipers.

Scripture instead assumes that we are, by nature of our captivity to our sinful passions, apart from Christ, enslaved--to sin, death, hell, and the devil. In Hebrews 2:14 the author says that Christ defeated the devil and the the power the devil wielded against us, death. It is not that the devil is in control of creation, or in control of the world as some kind of puppet master; but the devil is a liar, a thief, and a murderer and because of the Fall we have inherited Adam's damaged human nature and inhabit a world that is now plagued by the tyranny of death.

The idea of secret cabals of devil worshipers creates the idea that the universe is a battle ground between competing cosmic forces, one good and one evil. This is something known as "cosmic dualism":

It was a chief doctrine of the Zoroastrian religion of Persia which taught that there were two cosmic principles, one good represented by Ahura Mazda, the good lord; and one evil represented by Angra Mainyu the evil spirit. According to Zoroastrian dogma there would one day be a final showdown between the forces of good and evil, and human beings ultimately had to take a side in this life, and in the end good would triumph over evil. This form of dualism would be complimented with Gnostic/Platonic matter dualism in the Manichaean religion, the founder of Manichaeanism, Mani, was from 3rd century Persia and had been raised in a Gnostic sect known as the Elkasites. According to Mani there were two cosmic principles of dark and light, good and evil, matter and spirit, etc. The influence of Manichaeanism on later heretical movements, such as the Paulicians of Armenia, the Bogomils of Bulgaria, and the Cathars of France, is fairly evident.

So there has always been a struggle within Christianity against these false and heretical doctrines. This cosmic dualism is antithetical to the teaching of Scripture, antithetical to everything Christian. The devil is not an evil god, evil is not a cosmic principle in contrast to good. Rather, there is only overarching cosmic principle, and that's God, and God is good. Evil, therefore, is not the cosmic opposite of good; instead evil is the deprivation, the perversion, the distortion of the good. In the beginning God created all things and what did He say about everything He made? He called everything good. Was the devil created evil? No, the devil is a creature and was originally created good. In the same way, Adam and Eve were created good, but what happened when they believed the lie of the serpent?

Evil is not a cosmic principle or force, it is the absence of the good, the perversion of the good, the distortion of the good. It is not evil that man desires to have sex, to procreate, to reproduce--in the beginning God commanded that all things reproduce. Sex isn't evil, sex is good and was part of God's good created order. But when sin entered the picture, our desires became depraved, corrupted, distorted; the Image of God with which we were created in has been twisted and malformed. That's what evil is, it is deprivation and distortion and the absence of good.

I bring all this up because when we see these conspiracy theories about secret societies of devil worshipers, and deep conspiratorial plans to create one world governments or whatever, it all plays into a deeply and fundamentally NON-Christian view of the world. It is an unbiblical view of reality. Because it imagines this world as a cosmic battleground between two opposing forces, because it grants to the devil god-like power and ability, it glorifies Satan and blasphemes God.

Resist the devil and he will flee. That's what the Bible says. Consider that seriously, it says "resist the devil", that's it. He's such a low-life coward that just resisting him makes him flee in terror.

Paul wrote "We are more than conquerors through Him", think about that. And think about what Jesus said, "Do not rejoice that the devils submit to you, but rejoice that your names are written in heaven."

Consider the deep contrast: The devil is called the prince of the powers of the air and a "god of this world". And yet the one who belongs to Christ and bears His name rests in Him who has crushed the old snake's head under foot. Christ is risen from the dead, the devil is defeated. Christ is risen, hell is in ruins. Christ is risen, death is dead.

So who are you, O Christian, in relation to the devil? Yours is the victory already, for Christ is Victor. The devil is a liar, so call him a liar, he shall flee. The devil is a thief, but there is nothing that he can take from you if your treasure is in Christ. The devil is a murderer, but why should you fear those that can harm only the body, fear only God.

You are a child of the Almighty Maker of heaven and earth, the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ. You are the little lamb of the Good Shepherd who watches over His flock, and will search high and low for the smallest of His lambs. He finds what is broken and He heals it. He finds what is dead and raises it. He finds the poor and blesses them. You have all things in Christ who died for you.

The devil is unworthy of our fear. He is a pathetic worm to be smooshed. As Martin Luther wrote five hundred years ago in his hymn,

"For lo! his doom is sure.
One little word shall fell him.

That word above all earthly powers,
no thanks to them abideth,
the Spirit and the gifts are ours
through Him who with us sideth."

-CryptoLutheran
PREACH!
 
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Sin of omission, brother. The elevator is going down, and the temperature is going up.
Ya know, if you believe that salvation is dependent on whether you read some geezer's book or not, then your religion is not one to which I want to get too close.
 
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give reasons why the papacy IS NOT the Antichrist of Scripture - if you can find any...
By the same token, I'd like for you to prove that you're not a convict who escaped from the penitentiary20 years ago and haven't been discovered. <Laugh>
The eye could not have developed through slow, successive, slight modifications
Even if God had wanted to do it that way, right?
 
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