Roomate nudity

[FreeInChrist88]

This thread was started by a young man who needed reassurance that changing his clothes in his dorm room with his room mate present was 'okay'. There was another poster who made this sound like it was something "sick" and not Christian like. I am adamant that it is NOT weird or sick to dress in your dorm room...and although this young man is probably comfortable with this by now, I don't want some other young person to think that this is an "unChristian" like behavior. Changing your clothes in your bedroom is not "unChristian" and never will be. It also shouldn't be something to be self-conscious about. Simple as that.

I'm with you on this. If someone is personally uncomfortable with dressing or being nude in front of another person who is not his/her spouse, I can respect that. But to declare that there is something inherently wrong, sinful and/or "sick" about it is just flat wrong.

 

[blackribbon]

Not worth arguing about. However, God does not tell us to flee from every situation that makes us uncomfortable. We are to use good judgement and flee evil. Getting dressed in a dorm room is not evil. He did not say he was uncomfortable with his room mate (liked him matter of fact).

 

[blackribbon]

OCChopper...

FYI: I don't think you realize how hard it is to read your posts with all those huge pictures on every post.

 

[K9_Trainer]

Not worth arguing about. However, God does not tell us to flee from every situation that makes us uncomfortable. We are to use good judgement and flee evil. Getting dressed in a dorm room is not evil. He did not say he was uncomfortable with his room mate (liked him matter of fact).

I agree, I don't see how it's "wrong". If the OP is uncomfortable, then he shouldn't feel forced to undress in front of his room mate. Perhaps he should invest in collapsible room divider for a bit of privacy. But if his only concern is that it may be weird or "sick", I think that it's been well established here that is not the case.

In college, your dorm room is your home. You should be able to do anything in it that you would normally do at home without worrying.

 

[Nikos7]

If you think it is wrong then it is wrong. You should not have to lower your standards just because someone says it is okay. You are living your life for God not for a bunch of people who like to get naked. Shame on the posters here for trying to invade a man's conscience and undo what the Holy Spirit has done in convicting a person about nudity. This gang style effort to pile on and push your "naked" views on others shows that there is something very wrong about nudity and I would say to the person in OP to keep your clothes on. And how dare anyone even entertain a thought about God and underware. May the Lord have mercy on your soul! These people here are very strange. In fact too strange to trust. Be careful!

Consider this:

1. It is a shame and wrong to uncover your nakedness to others. The priests were warned to wear undergarments so that their nakedness would not be discovered when they went up the steps to the altar in their robes. Their undergarments (linen breeches) were to cover from their loins (waist) to their thighs (Exodus 28:42). When the children of Israel made and worshipped the golden calf, Aaron "made them naked unto their shame" (Exodus 32:25). Isaiah 47:3 speaks of the shame of having your nakedness uncovered.

2. It is a sin to uncover the nakedness of another. This is seen as leading to other sins (see Leviticus 18:6-18).

3. It is wrong to look on the nakedness of others. Ham's son was cursed because Ham saw the nakedness of his father and went and talked about it (Genesis 9:22-23). Habakkuk 2:15 speaks of the wickedness of those who get someone drunk in order to "look on their nakedness."

 

[blackribbon]

There is a big difference from looking at someone's nakedness and changing your clothes in the same room and just knowing that they are naked.

The original posted did not say that he thought it was wrong...he was just questioning if it was wrong. He said he was "uncomfortable". If he was uncomfortable to the point he felt it was wrong, then he should have given up his dorm room and moved into a private apartment...a proposition that would probably be at least twice as expensive. I couldn't afford an apartment in my college days. I had no problem with living dorm style. ...which makes me wonder how the disciples lived...considering I don't think most homes had 13 extra private bedrooms and they traveled a lot....

And I like history...it makes me understand people and how they lived better. Styles of dress are part of history. You seem to know about the undergarments of the priests...but trust me, Jesus wasn't a Leviticus priest..he was a skilled tradesman...his undergarments would have been a simple tunic...that was it. He was a man and wore the styles of his day. And he basically wore what most modern men would consider a man wearing a dress...it doesn't make him less Godly oe Holy because that style of dress would raise eyebrows in most American cities.

I am not a nudist or an exhibitionist and I wear modest clothing, however, I disagree with your stance on nakedness. The priests were given strict codes in how to conduct life..especially how to present themselves to the Lord...it probably had something to do with that other religions actually perform sexual acts as part of their worship and God did not want the Jews to imitate these rituals in any way shape or form. However, I do not think that it is wrong to look upon my child's naked body when I bathed him. I do not think it is wrong to present my body naked to my husband. And I do not think it wrong to deal with naked pieces of a patient's body when I care for them in a hospital or clinical setting (note: privacy is always a big piece and we cover what we do not need to access.)

I am guessing we are going to have to agree to disagree on this point.

 

[blackribbon]

I also suspect that Ham's sin was more a sin of disrespect than actually seeing his father naked. And maybe Noah holds some responsibility in the fact, he probably shouldn't have drank so much that he couldn't care for himself. (maybe??)

And I can't remember the OP saying anything about getting his roommate drunk so that he could look at him naked....now, I would agree that would be wrong.

But as for the rest, we can agree to disagree.

 

[jminnesota]

yea a dorm is like a home and often you share it with someone so set some ground rules like if he is undressing then look the other way til he is dressed again if it bothers you he should not have to leave and go to a bathroom just to change

 

[FreeInChrist88]

Hey everyone, I have kind of a silly question. I'm dorming at college and I have an awesome roomate. However, I get a little uneasy getting changed in the room with him and being naked together. I don't know why I feel so uncomfortable. Is it wrong for two people of the same gender to be naked together?

Shame on the posters here for trying to invade a man's conscience and undo what the Holy Spirit has done in convicting a person about nudity. This gang style effort to pile on and push your "naked" views on others shows that there is something very wrong about nudity and I would say to the person in OP to keep your clothes on. And how dare anyone even entertain a thought about God and underware. May the Lord have mercy on your soul! These people here are very strange. In fact too strange to trust. Be careful!

If you read the OP, he asked for people's opinions. People have simply done that. No one has "invaded" his conscience. No one has piled on him or any one. It appears that you are the one who feels piled on because your view happens to be in the minority.

You have made some pretty strong and unfounded accusations in your posts in this thread. Like I said in an earlier post, are you sure you want to be doing that?

 

[GNJ]

Is it wrong for two people of the same gender to be naked together?

Unless you're having sex then I think it's fine.

(even then it would be fine).

 

[jminnesota]

if ya had a girl living with yea it would be better view of course.

 

[Nikos7]

Unless you're having sex then I think it's fine.

(even then it would be fine).

Are you gay?

 

[GNJ]

Are you gay?

Does it matter?

 

[Darkhorse]

god made men the way they are and he made women the way they are. from 7th grade to 12th in gym class i had to shower with 10 to 15 boys and no one was embarassed or shy about it. we all had the same thing so it was never a big deal.

Wow - you were in a small school. My P. E. classes were 40-60 people. We showered together nude in a long tile corridor, then lined up nude in another long tile corridor to get a towel. The second corridor had urnals at the end, out in the open. I'm surprised burning sulfur didn't rain down on us...

i was never in college but i went to camps with friends and we would stay in bunk houses and at night we would all undress and sleep nude etc. and it was never a big deal. i feel same with a college dorm if your there to study and sleep nothing wrong with being naked as long as your both comfy with it and its not sexual at all.

I slept nude all through college. Some dorms were single-sex and some were co-ed (always male roommates though).

None of my roommates had a problem with it, although one would look away when I took my clothes off. Everything was cool.

I really think that these posters who want to take all their clothes off are either very poor and can't afford a fig leaf, or they are a bunch of Socialist Liberals who have infliltrated this forum. They support Obama and Biden. I just hope that the Republicans are reading all of this, cuz I think they are going to pull a surprise on Romney at the next debate. Don't be surprised at anything! I hope you get a good look, if you know what I mean.

Really? I'm a dedicated conservative who will be voting for Romney...

It was the fig leaves that brought a rebuke from God, namely "Who told you that you were naked?" (in other words, 'who gave you the idea that the bodies I gave you were shameful?')

 

[Nikos7]

It was the fig leaves that brought a rebuke from God, namely "Who told you that you were naked?" (in other words, 'who gave you the idea that the bodies I gave you were shameful?

God didn't say what you say. He was simply pointing out that they had sinned and that is why they were guilty of their nakedness. God is displeased with nakedness. He wants us to be clothed. Even in Heaven we will have a white robe.

Why don't you wake up and smell the coffee! You are just inlove with your own body. You get some kind of perverted thrill out of flaunting your nudity.

Well excsue me! I don't want to see your nakedness. Put some clothes on and look like Jesus.

 

[dayhiker]

The reason the fig leafs didn't work is that they were man's attempt to cover his sin. That wouldn't work today and didn't then. That's why Jesus came.

Also there is not verse in the Bible that says anything about being nude as being sinful. When nudity is looked down on as shame its because they were stripped by a foriegn nation. It spoke of their weakness, they couldn't protect their family, property and their wives and daughters from being raped.

Now of we are consistent with Gen.3 and clothing, as in saying that the fig leaves weren't good and so God make clothes of animal skins. Then we observe that the clothes we wear to day are the same as the fig leaves, plant material and made by human hand. These are what God replaces with animal skins that God made into clothes. So the clothes are like the fig leaves. They aren't pleasing to God. We should remove them and let God cloth us with skins from dead animals like He did Adam and Eve.

That to me is using the type in Gen.3 consistently. But no one is consistent that I've every read and I've read many Christian authors on this topic.

 

[FreeInChrist88]

God didn't say what you say. He was simply pointing out that they had sinned and that is why they were guilty of their nakedness. God is displeased with nakedness. He wants us to be clothed. Even in Heaven we will have a white robe.

Why don't you wake up and smell the coffee! You are just inlove with your own body. You get some kind of perverted thrill out of flaunting your nudity.

Well excsue me! I don't want to see your nakedness. Put some clothes on and look like Jesus.

Nikos, you crack me up! Are you for real or are you just making this stuff up to create controversy?

 

[Darkhorse]

God didn't say what you say. He was simply pointing out that they had sinned and that is why they were guilty of their nakedness. God is displeased with nakedness. He wants us to be clothed. Even in Heaven we will have a white robe.

Why don't you wake up and smell the coffee! You are just inlove with your own body. You get some kind of perverted thrill out of flaunting your nudity.

Well excsue me! I don't want to see your nakedness. Put some clothes on and look like Jesus.

If I remember correctly, their sin was disobeying God by eating the forbidden fruit, not being naked. God made them naked, as is explicitly stated in the final verse of Genesis 2, before the Fall.

I wake up and smell the coffee every morning - and I drink it all day long!

I have had health issues all my life, and I'm looking forward to exchanging this body for the perfect one we are promised in heaven. If God's "dress code" is white robes, that suits me fine. If I remember correctly, the white robes symbolize righteousness; wearing the righteousness of Jesus is the only way I could possibly look like Him.

In the meantime, let's remember that Jesus was born nude (as we all are - is God displeased with naked babies?), was baptized nude (the Jewish ceremony of Mikvah), was crucified nude (as the Romans always did it), and emerged nude from the tomb (unless He had the white robe of righteousness), since corpses were always nude before being wrapped with spices and myrrh.

And you need never worry about seeing my nudity. But God doesn't seem to have any problem with it...

 

[Nikos7]

We all know that everyone is nude under those clothes. But those clothes are important for without holiness no man will see the Lord! You see taking your clothes off is not holiness. It is not Christlike. If you want to be like Jesus then keep those rags on and cover yourself. Those clothes are a type of God's righteousness.

Thanks for considering the Truth that I have ben posting.

 

[FreeInChrist88]

We all know that everyone is nude under those clothes. But those clothes are important for without holiness no man will see the Lord! You see taking your clothes off is not holiness. It is not Christlike. If you want to be like Jesus then keep those rags on and cover yourself. Those clothes are a type of God's righteousness.

How in the world do you equate clothes and being clothed with holiness?? You have these pre-conceived religious ideas about what is acceptable to God that have no clear-cut scriptural support. I would think twice before I started proclaiming things on God's behalf that are not supportable by scripture. That's why I keep wondering if you are for real in your beliefs or just trying to stir things up.