Revelation chapter 2 verse 1 study

[LittleLambofJesus]

04/17/2018

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ISA/LLoJ) Reve 2:1 To the Messenger of [in] the Ephesus [Ephesian] Assembly write!
Now this is saying He that holdeth the seven stars in the right [hand] of Him.
The One walking-about in midst of the seven golden lamp-stands.

Slight variation in #2181.
The word for "hand #5495" is not in the texts, so it appears to be implied in the translation?
[Tho #5495 occurs about 17 times in Revelation]

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Stephens 1550/Scrivener 1894 Textus Receptus
tw aggelw thV ** efesinhs ekklhsiaV grayon
tade legei o kratwn touV epta asteraV en th dexia autou
o peripatwn en mesw twn epta lucniwn twn cruswn
Byzantine Majority
tw aggelw thV en efesw*** ekklhsiaV grayon
tade legei o kratwn touV epta asteraV en th dexia autou
o peripatwn en mesw twn epta lucniwn twn cruswn
Alexandrian
tw aggelw thV en efesw*** ekklhsiaV grayon
tade legei o kratwn touV epta asteraV en th dexia autou
o peripatwn en mesw twn epta lucniwn twn cruswn
Hort and Westcott
tw aggelw tw en efesw*** ekklhsiaV grayon
tade legei o kratwn touV epta asteraV en th dexia autou
o peripatwn en mesw twn epta lucniwn twn cruswn

 

[vinsight4u]

/nvm

 

[mark kennedy]

I've always wondered if the angels where actually angels or maybe, as I've heard suggested, perhaps the Pastors of the respective churches. It certainly indicates divine protection. The passage reminds me a bit of the Hebrews description of Jesus being our great High Priest.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

I've always wondered if the angels where actually angels or maybe, as I've heard suggested, perhaps the Pastors of the respective churches. It certainly indicates divine protection.
The passage reminds me a bit of the Hebrews description of Jesus being our great High Priest.

Thanks you for your response.

"The One walking-about in midst of the seven golden lamp-stands"

According to the word "lamp-stands", it is plural. That would seem to imply that there *are 7 Menorahs.
Whereas if it was 7 "candlesticks", *those would be on top of 1 lamp-stand. Interesting

The 7 lamp stands represent the 7 churches. Note what Jesus says to this Messenger in vs 5:

5 'To the Messenger of the Ephesian assembly write!.................
I come to thee quickly, and will remove thy lamp-stand from its place -- if thou mayest not reform;

You might be interested in this post on Revelation 1:10.
[I should have started Chapter 1 instead of 2.]

Revelation Chapter 1 verse 10 study

 

[he-man]

04/17/2018

Scripture4All - Greek/Hebrew interlinear Bible software
Revelation 2:1 Biblehub

ISA/LLoJ) Reve 2:1 To the Messenger of [in] the Ephesus [Ephesian] Assembly write!
Now this is saying He that holdeth the seven stars in the right [hand] of Him.
The One walking-about in midst of the seven golden lamp-stands.

Slight variation in #2181.
The word for "hand #5495" is not in the texts, so it appears to be implied in the translation?
[Tho #5495 occurs about 17 times in Revelation]

Revelation 2 - Parallel Greek New Testament - HTML Bible by johnhurt.com

Stephens 1550/Scrivener 1894 Textus Receptus
tw aggelw thV ** efesinhs ekklhsiaV grayon
tade legei o kratwn touV epta asteraV en th dexia autou
o peripatwn en mesw twn epta lucniwn twn cruswn
Byzantine Majority
tw aggelw thV en efesw*** ekklhsiaV grayon
tade legei o kratwn touV epta asteraV en th dexia autou
o peripatwn en mesw twn epta lucniwn twn cruswn
Alexandrian
tw aggelw thV en efesw*** ekklhsiaV grayon
tade legei o kratwn touV epta asteraV en th dexia autou
o peripatwn en mesw twn epta lucniwn twn cruswn
Hort and Westcott
tw aggelw tw en efesw*** ekklhsiaV grayon
tade legei o kratwn touV epta asteraV en th dexia autou o peripatwn en mesw twn epta lucniwn twn cruswn

I don't know where you got the Hort and Westcott from but here are the actual manuscripts and translations: Codex Sinaiticus Rev 2:1 τω αγγελω τηϲ εν εφεϲω εκκληϲιαϲ γραψον ταδε λεγει ο κρατων τουϲ επτα αϲτεραϲ εν τη δεξι α αυτου χειρι ο περιπατων εν μεϲω των επτα λυχνιω
However it is included in Westcott and Hort
Τῷ ἀγγέλῳ τῷ ἐν Ἐφέσῳ ἐκκλησίας γράψον
Τάδε λέγει ὁ κρατῶν τοὺς ἑπτὰ ἀστέρας ἐν τῇ δεξιᾷ αὐτοῦ, ὁ περιπατῶν ἐν μέσῳ τῶν ἑπτὰ λυχνιῶν τῶν χρυσῶν, Tischendorf Τῷ ἀγγέλῳ τῆς ἐν Ἐφέσῳ ἐκκλησίας γράψον· τάδε λέγει ὁ κρατῶν τοὺς ἑπτὰ ἀστέρας ἐν τῇ δεξιᾷ αὐτοῦ, ὁ περιπατῶν ἐν μέσῳ τῶν ἑπτὰ λυχνιῶν τῶν χρυσῶν· Byzantine Τῷ ἀγγέλῳ τῆς ἐν Ἐφέσῳ ἐκκλησίας γράψον, Τάδε λέγει ὁ κρατῶν τοὺς ἑπτὰ ἀστέρας ἐν τῇ δεξιᾷ αὐτοῦ, ὁ περιπατῶν ἐν μέσῳ τῶν ἑπτὰ λυχνιῶν τῶν χρυσῶν· Interlinear τῷ all'
ἀγγέλῳ angelo τῆς della ἐν di ἐφέσῳ efeso ἐκκλησίας
chiesa γράψον: scrivi τάδε queste cose λέγει dice ὁ
colui che κρατῶν tiene τοὺς le ἑπτὰ sette ἀστέρας stelle
ἐν τῇ nella δεξιᾷ destra αὐτοῦ, sua ὁ
G1188 εξιός dexios dex-ee-os' From G1209; the right side or (feminine) hand (as that which usually takes): - right (hand, side). Hand is implied: See Revelation 1:16 And he had in his right hand seven stars: and out of his mouth went a sharp twoedged sword: and his countenance was as the sun shineth in his strength.
Greek χείρ; יָמַין, yanin’, the right hand, δεξιά; שְׂמוֹל. To hold by the right hand is the symbol of protection and favor (Psalms 18:35). The right hand stretched out is the symbol of immediate exertion of power (Exo_15:12); sometimes the exercise of mercy (Isa_65:2; Pro_1:24). The phrase “sitting at the right hand of God,” as applied to the Savior, is derived from the fact that with earthly princes a position on the right hand of the throne was accounted the chief place of honor, dignity, and power: “upon thy right hand did stand the queen”(Psa_45:9; comp. 1Ki_2:19; Psa_80:17). The immediate passage out of which sprang the phraseology employed by Jesus may be found in Psa_110:1 : “Jehovah said unto my Lord, sit thou at my right hand until I make thine enemies thy footstool.” Accordingly the Savior declares before Caiaphas (Mat_26:64; Mar_14:62), “Ye shall see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven;”where the meaning obviously is that the Jews of that day should have manifest proof that Jesus held the most eminent place in the divine favor, and that his present humiliation would be succeeded by glory, majesty, and power.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

I don't know where you got the Hort and Westcott from but here are the actual manuscripts and translations: Codex Sinaiticus
Rev 2:1 τω αγγελω τηϲ εν εφεϲω εκκληϲιαϲ γραψον ταδε λεγει ο κρατων τουϲ επτα αϲτεραϲ εν τη δεξι α αυτου χειρι ο περιπατων εν μεϲω των επτα λυχνιω
However it is included in Westcott and Hort
G1188 εξιός dexios dex-ee-os' From G1209; the right side or (feminine) hand (as that which usually takes): - right (hand, side). Hand is implied: See Revelation 1:16 And he had in his right hand seven stars: and out of his mouth went a sharp twoedged sword: and his countenance was as the sun shineth in his strength.
Greek χείρ; יָמַין, yanin’, the right hand, δεξιά; שְׂמוֹל. To hold by the right hand is the symbol of protection and favor (Psalms 18:35). The right hand stretched out is the symbol of immediate exertion of power (Exo_15:12); sometimes the exercise of mercy (Isa_65:2; Pro_1:24).
The phrase “sitting at the right hand of God,” as applied to the Savior, is derived from the fact that with earthly princes a position on the right hand of the throne was accounted the chief place of honor, dignity, and power: “upon thy right hand did stand the queen”(Psa_45:9; comp. 1Ki_2:19; Psa_80:17). The immediate passage out of which sprang the phraseology employed by Jesus may be found in Psa_110:1 : “Jehovah said unto my Lord, sit thou at my right hand until I make thine enemies thy footstool.” Accordingly the Savior declares before Caiaphas (Mat_26:64; Mar_14:62), “Ye shall see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven;”where the meaning obviously is that the Jews of that day should have manifest proof that Jesus held the most eminent place in the divine favor, and that his present humiliation would be succeeded by glory, majesty, and power.

However it is included in Westcott and Hort
G1188 εξιός dexios dex-ee-os' From G1209; the right side or (feminine) hand (as that which usually takes): - right (hand, side). Hand is implied:.................

I wrote that in post #1.
I put right [hand] in brackets, [instead of a footnote] to show "hand" is not in some of the Mss.

Where did you get your sources from as I would like to look at them.
I got the H-W from this site:
Greek New Testament - Parallel Greek New Testament by John Hurt

Thanks for posting all that info glad to see someone here that is an expert in the greek.
I put right [hand] in brackets, [instead of footnotes] to show "hand" is not in NY of the Mss from that site I posted.

What about these verses?
The word for "right" is in the plural, at least in these texts.......

Matt 22:44 The Lord said to my lord, Sit out of right hand/rights of Me till I may make thine enemies thy footstool?

Greek New Testament - Parallel Greek New Testament by John Hurt

Matt 22:44
Scrivener 1894 Textus Receptus
eipen o kurioV tw kuriw mou kaqou ek dexiwn mou ewV an qw touV ecqrouV sou upopodion twn podwn sou
Byzantine Majority
eipen o kurioV tw kuriw mou kaqou ek dexiwn mou ewV an qw touV ecqrouV sou upopodion twn podwn sou
Alexandrian
eipen kurioV tw kuriw mou kaqou ek dexiwn mou ewV an qw touV ecqrouV sou upokatw twn podwn sou
Hort and Westcott
eipen kurioV tw kuriw mou kaqou ek dexiwn mou ewV an qw touV ecqrouV sou upokatw twn podwn sou

Matt 26:64 Jesus saith to him, 'Thou sayest; nevertheless I am saying to you/ye,
hereafter ye shall see the Son of Man sitting on the right hand of the power, and coming upon the clouds, of the heaven.'

Scrivener 1894 Textus Receptus
legei autw o ihsouV su eipaV plhn legw umin ap arti oyesqe ton uion tou anqrwpou kaqhmenon ek dexiwn thV dunamewV kai ercomenon epi twn nefelwn tou ouranou
Byzantine Majority
legei autw o ihsouV su eipaV plhn legw umin ap arti oyesqe ton uion tou anqrwpou kaqhmenon ek dexiwn thV dunamewV kai ercomenon epi twn nefelwn tou ouranou
Alexandrian
legei autw o ihsouV su eipaV plhn legw umin ap arti oyesqe ton uion tou anqrwpou kaqhmenon ek dexiwn thV dunamewV kai ercomenon epi twn nefelwn tou ouranou
Hort and Westcott
legei autw o ihsouV su eipaV plhn legw umin ap arti oyesqe ton uion tou anqrwpou kaqhmenon ek dexiwn thV dunamewV kai ercomenon epi twn nefelwn tou ouranou

 

[mark kennedy]

Thanks you for your response.

"The One walking-about in midst of the seven golden lamp-stands"

According to the word "lamp-stands", it is plural. that would seem to imply that there 7 Menorahs.
Whereas if it was 7 "candlesticks" that would be on top of 1 lamp-stand. Interesting

The 7 lamp stands represent the 7 churches. Note what Jesus says to this Messenger in vs 5:

5 'To the Messenger of the Ephesian assembly write!.................
I come to thee quickly, and will remove thy lamp-stand from its place -- if thou mayest not reform;

You might be interested in this post on Revelation 1:10.
[I should have started Chapter 1 instead of 2.]

Revelation Chapter 1 verse 10 study

Actually if you notice there are seven prongs of the Menorah, and John uses the normal Greek word for a lamp, just as the writter of Hebrews did to describe the Menorah. Designed to commemorate the budding of the almond staff of Joshua, it featured almond buds at it's joints. It was solid gold and was filled with oil, it was the only light in the Holy Place and stood beside the shew bread, just outside the veil of the Holy of Holies. The vision of the Son of Man is remarkably close to the High Priest, including golden 'paps' which seems to indicate the Ephod. Jesus is seen tending to the church like a priest tends to the Menorah in the Temple.

The language of the book is simple, some even describe it as crude. This is a characteristic of John's writings, his epistles are some of the easiest Greek in the New Testament and often when starting exegetical studies it's the first book a student of Koine Greek will be introduced to.

It's so very interesting that the writer would be using such dramatic Levetical imagery. I must have read half a dozen commentaries on the Revelation. Most of them will take a good look at Leviticus, and of course a good understanding of the prophets is advisable. Eventually Jesus is described as the Lamb, a very important Levitical sacrificial symbol. The Passover meal was a lamb, the sin offering was a lamb, the sacrifice of the peace offering was the only offering eaten 'before the Lord', was a lamb.

Grace and peace,
Mark

 

[he-man]

I wrote that in post #1.
I put right [hand] in brackets, [instead of a footnote] to show "hand" is not in some of the Mss.

Where did you get your sources from as I would like to look at them.
I got the H-W from this site:
Greek New Testament - Parallel Greek New Testament by John Hurt

Thanks for posting all that info glad to see someone here that is an expert in the greek.
I put right [hand] in brackets, [instead of footnotes] to show "hand" is not in NY of the Mss from that site I posted.

What about these verses?
The word for "right" is in the plural, at least in these texts.......

Matt 22:44 The Lord said to my lord, Sit out of right hand/rights of Me till I may make thine enemies thy footstool?

Greek New Testament - Parallel Greek New Testament by John Hurt

Matt 22:44
Scrivener 1894 Textus Receptus
eipen o kurioV tw kuriw mou kaqou ek dexiwn mou ewV an qw touV ecqrouV sou upopodion twn podwn sou
Byzantine Majority
eipen o kurioV tw kuriw mou kaqou ek dexiwn mou ewV an qw touV ecqrouV sou upopodion twn podwn sou
Alexandrian
eipen kurioV tw kuriw mou kaqou ek dexiwn mou ewV an qw touV ecqrouV sou upokatw twn podwn sou
Hort and Westcott
eipen kurioV tw kuriw mou kaqou ek dexiwn mou ewV an qw touV ecqrouV sou upokatw twn podwn sou

Matt 26:64 Jesus saith to him, 'Thou sayest; nevertheless I am saying to you/ye,
hereafter ye shall see the Son of Man sitting on the right hand of the power, and coming upon the clouds, of the heaven.'

Scrivener 1894 Textus Receptus
legei autw o ihsouV su eipaV plhn legw umin ap arti oyesqe ton uion tou anqrwpou kaqhmenon ek dexiwn thV dunamewV kai ercomenon epi twn nefelwn tou ouranou
Byzantine Majority
legei autw o ihsouV su eipaV plhn legw umin ap arti oyesqe ton uion tou anqrwpou kaqhmenon ek dexiwn thV dunamewV kai ercomenon epi twn nefelwn tou ouranou
Alexandrian
legei autw o ihsouV su eipaV plhn legw umin ap arti oyesqe ton uion tou anqrwpou kaqhmenon ek dexiwn thV dunamewV kai ercomenon epi twn nefelwn tou ouranou
Hort and Westcott
legei autw o ihsouV su eipaV plhn legw umin ap arti oyesqe ton uion tou anqrwpou kaqhmenon ek dexiwn thV dunamewV kai ercomenon epi twn nefelwn tou ouranou

Idomatic of an illusion of the coming advent as an adverb.
Tischendorf εἶπεν κύριος τῷ κυρίῳ μου· κάθου ἐκ δεξιῶν μου ἕως ἂν θῶ τοὺς ἐχθρούς σου ὑποκάτω τῶν ποδῶν σου.
noun pl fem gen epic doric ionic aeolic, This appears and apparently is idiomatic. A.on the right hand or side, opp. ἀριστερός, δ. μαζός, γλουτός, ὦμος, Il.4.481, 5.66, Od.17.462; τὸ δ. (sc. κέρας) the right of an army, X.Ages.2.9, etc.: freq. in adverb. usages, ἐπὶ δεξιά on or to the right,; Xen.:—adverb. usages, ἐπὶ δεξιά on the right, Il.;
Perseus Digital Library - Tufts University": www.perseus.tufts.edu/