Revelation 20:2 question

[&Abel]

when I think of satan being bound I think of him being unable to deceive(because we are fully wise to his schemes) not now but to come

and then released for a final test of faith

 

[archierieus]

Having read the various views of the 1000yr period in Revelation in different Denominations of Christianity, I decided to translate and study on the verses in Reve 20 which shows it.

According to this, it appears there may be 2 different periods as verse 2 shows the "evil-one" is bound for a 1000yrs.

I would think that if the Lord wanted it to be one event, He would have written it as "and he bound AND cast him into the abyss. Anyone have any views on this? Thanks.

Reve 20:2 And he seizes the Dragon, the serpent, the ancient, who is a Devil, and [the] Satan/Adversary. And he binds him a thousand years.
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Hi LLoJ,

Following up here via the link you kindly posted in the Peter's Not the Rock! thread. These verses have been of interest to me as well. Generally speaking, in studies like this, I try to take a passage as it reads, within the context of the surrounding material. Following that approach, the prima facie meaning appears to be as follows:

1. The 1,000 years occurs immediately following the Second Coming, which is described in the last section of ch. 19.

2. Satan is seized and bound at the same time, as I do not find any textual warrant for separating the two actions. The seizing is for the purpose of binding. Nor do I see any reference to some other time period, just the 1,000 years.

As for the nature of the 'binding,' and the identity/location of the 'bottomless pit,' that is an interesting study as well.

Best regards,

Dave

 

[walt2000]

LittleLambofJesus,archierieus
You type a Storm ,history ? mixing with end time.interpt of Rev. I do not agree,Rev.22/18 violations all over the place.
And I do not expect you to get mad.walt2000

 

[walt2000]

the the binding of satan/adversary , old serpent also a beast rise up of the sea ?Rev 13:1 and one rise up out of the earth Rev 13:11 for the 1000 years only to be cast alive into the fire for good , well i saw this

1000 = a gemartria mega no.a large UN specific no.
When Christ gets in control ,he rules with a iron rod ,it is not for 1000 years, or even 10,000x10,000 years it is for ever.This is A gross miss intrpt.of Revelations.
In My interpt.walt2000

 

[walt2000]

Having read the various views of the 1000yr period in Revelation in different Denominations of Christianity, I decided to translate and study on the verses in Reve 20 which shows it.

According to this, it appears there may be 2 different periods as verse 2 shows the "evil-one" is bound for a 1000yrs.

I would think that if the Lord wanted it to be one event, He would have written it as "and he bound AND cast him into the abyss. Anyone have any views on this? Thanks.

Reve 20:2 And he seizes the Dragon, the serpent, the ancient, who is a Devil, and [the] Satan/Adversary. And he binds him a thousand years.

http://www.gotquestions.org/amillennialism.html

.........According to Amillennialism, the millennium of Revelation 20:1–6 is being fulfilled spiritually in the present age before the return of Jesus Christ.Thus, the millennium or kingdom of Christ is in existence now.

Amillennialists affirm that the millennium began with the resurrection and/or ascension of Christ and will be consummated when Jesus returns again to establish the Eternal Kingdom that is discussed in Revelation 21–22........................

This is a miss interpt. on 1000 years.walt2000

 

[walt2000]

You know what people are doing,Their turning Revelations in to a big laugh.
Their taking Christs word and making it into a point of ridicule.walt2000

 

[Bro.T]

The thing is in Revelation the 20th chapter, we have to understand that theres a hand full of things going on in that chapter.

1: We see Jesus setting up his kingdom
2: We see satan getting that great chain laid on him , so he don't deceive the nation any more
3: We see the first and the second resurrection
4: We see satan coming back for a short time
5: We see the Father coming down
6: we see judgement day which includes the lake of fire and the second death

peace in jesus name

 

[walt2000]

Germatria
For 44



44 president of the U.S.A in Germatria = 4 + 4 = 8 = Germatria number for a new beginning
4 + 4 = 8 or 4 x 4 = 16
8 + 8 = 16 a new beginning with emphasis
1 + 6 = 7 Christs perfect no.
8 + 8= A New Beginning.with Christ with emphasis



4 = Earth + 4 + Earth = 8 = a new beginning .
Let's watch This Guy
40 = test no.Period, number of Trial. On Earth
4 = on Earth
2 x Earth = 8 = 4 with emphasis
Interesting ?



I think you in the U.S.A.will like the no.7



4 x 4 = 16 = 1 no. of God --- 6 = Man
6 + 1 = 7 no. of Christ perfect no.
1 = God , 2 = union , 4 = earth ,6 = man ,7 = Christ , 8 = a new beginning.
God union Earth man Christ new beginning = 28
28
2 + 8 = 10 = 1 God ,toss the 0
10 = Perfection of divine order.
2 x 8 = 16 = 1 God and x 6 = man
I just can not get a bad number.



Heaven forbid I should be a prophet
(Just kidding)
This has nothing to do, ( At least that I know of ) any latter day predictions.
Just an interesting no.For the U.S.A. Perez.
walt2000​

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Well, the number 8 is often shown to mean perfection, because its even greater than 7 which is another Biblically significant number and is used like 50 times in Revelation.

I think that 8 is also significant, because God commanded Abraham to circumsise his children on the 8th day after their birth.

I've heard that if you do gematria on Jesus's name in greek, it comes out as 888.

Wow. That's cool.

Thank you bro!

 

[B1inHim]

OK, I have read what you are saying and this is the way I see it.

IMO, based on the equation of time difference between our time and God's time given to us by Apostle Peter.

It was at the end of SEVEN THOUSAND years that we are cast out of the Garden of Eden in Gen.

It took 6,000 years of our time to create and God rested for the next 1,000 years.

The ONLY reason why the "1,000 years" is specifically listed is because it is the second Sabbath.

For that 1,000 years that are spoken of in Rev. 20, God will be able to rest from all the work that He and we have been in for the past 6,000 years.

His word demands it, being the same yesterday, today and forever...

We are very close to the end of the 6,000 years since the day that we were cast out of Eden.

IMO

His servant

 

[papaJP]

I have been trying to follow the discussion on Rev 20:2.
He seized the dragon, that ancient serpent, who is the Devil and Satan, and bound him for a thousand years, (Rev 20:2 NRS)
First this is not happening now it is a future event. Satan is still roaming and deceiving all who will allow him today.

2Pe 2:4​

For if God did not spare the angels when they sinned, but cast them into hell and committed them to chains of deepest darkness to be kept until the judgment;​

Jud 1:6​

And the angels who did not keep their own position, but left their proper dwelling, he has kept in eternal chains in deepest darkness for the judgment of the great Day.
Here is both a verse from the Hebrew Scriptures and the Christian Scriptures that refer to this binding.​

And the fifth angel blew his trumpet, and I saw a star that had fallen from heaven to earth, and he was given the key to the shaft of the bottomless pit; (Rev 9:1 NRS)
Note this is about the same subject in a different chapter and verse.
The fall to earth but not the pit was as follows.

Rev 12:9​

The great dragon was thrown down, that ancient serpent, who is called the Devil and Satan, the deceiver of the whole world he was thrown down to the earth, and his angels were thrown down with him.​

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Luk 10:18​

He said to them, "I watched Satan fall from heaven like a flash of lightning.
Jesus then testifies to his control of the keys.
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Rev 1:18​

and the living one. I was dead, and see, I am alive forever and ever; and I have the keys of Death and of Hades.
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Rev 9:2​

he opened the shaft of the bottomless pit, and from the shaft rose smoke like the smoke of a great furnace, and the sun and the air were darkened with the smoke from the shaft.
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Rev 9:11​

They have as king over them the angel of the bottomless pit; his name in Hebrew is Abaddon, and in Greek he is called Apollyon.
Here in chapter 9 we have reference to satan in the bottomless pit.
Remember the book of Revelation is not time sequencial. It is after chaper 4 a series of visions that expound on particular occurances in the end of the age story.
I believe the 1000 years is metaphorical. However I believe it is allowed to be opened so those who are in the tribulation will have the opportunity to die for their faith and gain final eternal salvation.
I will not ask anyone to believe what I have been given to believe but I ask you to do what I have done and pray for revelation of the Holy Spirit as you study the book of Revelation. I am currently writing a study and comments on the book of Revelation and after months am about 75% done.
After over 250 pages I can attest that I am finally getting close to putting the visions in an order with comments as to what they were expounding upon.
All comments welcome.

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[LittleLambofJesus]

OK, I have read what you are saying and this is the way I see it.

IMO, based on the equation of time difference between our time and God's time given to us by Apostle Peter.

It was at the end of SEVEN THOUSAND years that we are cast out of the Garden of Eden in Gen.

It took 6,000 years of our time to create and God rested for the next 1,000 years.

The ONLY reason why the "1,000 years" is specifically listed is because it is the second Sabbath.

For that 1,000 years that are spoken of in Rev. 20, God will be able to rest from all the work that He and we have been in for the past 6,000 years.

His word demands it, being the same yesterday, today and forever...

We are very close to the end of the 6,000 years since the day that we were cast out of Eden.

IMO

His servant

Interesting. Thank you for responding