yhshua said:
Hi yeshuasavedme. Can you explain a little more on the above and give verse reference? I believe the Word teaches we the church or bride of Christ will ALL sit on thrones in Heaven and rule with Christ as shown in examples like the 24 elders, Cesopia in the Zodiac, and Eph. 1:3, 2:6.
Those that come out of the great tribulation born again are not a part of the bride. Most of these will serve Him.
Thanks,
In Christ
Hi yhshua,
A Jewish friend who is Messianic pointed out that there is a wedding supper after the seven years tribulation, also, and I think that for that reason she believes that the Church is to go through the tribulation; but it won't go through the trib, and there is a wedding feast at the beginning of the great tribulation and at the end of the great tribullation -both.
The type is found in Jacob taking Leah, first, and Rachel His choice, seven days later, I think- in typing.
However, there is something about the wedding that I believe is crucial to understand about redemption -all who are redeemed from Adam are 'married' to the Firstborn, the Israel of God, YHWH of hosts in flesh, 'Yeshua'; as it is part of the Redemption of Adam's family and kingdom, as the Firstborn, the New Man, the Kinsman-Redeemer's work of the redemption of Adam.
Here is something that you can search out and consider;
Adam was made 'one' spirit -Malachi 2:15; to multiply and bring forth godly seed -which means 'sons of God'- to inhabit this earth as their kingdom, forever.
Adam (the name of our being) was made male and female, and told to multiply and bring forth the sons of God and fill the earth with the multiplied sons: but, because of the fall, God has no sons in Adam, and cannot, for Adam is defiled and an unclean vessel -even if a single person was without personal sin, as the babies are who die having done no right or wrong, the vessel they are born as is defiled for the habitation of the Presence of glory, and must be cleansed by the atonement and a new vessel formed from the defiled one, as the Potter remakes the vessel that is 'Israel', in Jeremiah.
The blood atonement of the New Man, the 'Israel' kind, who is the brother to Adam and the LORD from heaven in human flesh, as that brother with the power and the will and the authority to redeem His brother Adam's 'wife' and kingdom, was the acceptable sacrifice for the cleansing of our souls; and now, as the firstborn over all the earth -who inherits Adam's kingdom that our first father, the first Adam, was given (and sold into sin and slavery), He takes the 'wife' of Adam (all we are from Eve, who is from Adam's side) and adopts us into his New family and gives us the right to rule with Him over the kingdom, the regenerated earth, forever.
In the beginning, Adam was made with all the seed of all who would come forth to be sons of God, placed in His loins to pass along for the multiplying of his being. Eve was taken from his side, and was the mother (to be)of all -who would live.
Eve was Adam's 'twin sister' 'daughter' 'wife', in one sense, and from the multiplying of the first male and female 'Adam' all we have come into being.
but because of the fall, we are orphans -in Adam- and the kingdom is lost and sold into corruption and slavery.
In Adam there is no man who can keep himself alive or offer a ransom to redeem his brother. Our low estate is utterly helpless and our kingdom lies in ruin.
In the New Man, however, we have Redemption through the blood He shed to pay the acceptable ransom for our redemption, and in Him we are 'His sister, brother, wife, sons' who inherit the kingdom with Him and rule with Him over the regenerated earth.
Israel was actually considered the 'wife' of the LORD, and the 'son' and the 'brethren' and the sons and daughters -a search through the concordance will show all those to be true.
We are, spiritually, all these, adopted, married, and inheritors, in Him, of the regenerated kingdom that our first father lost. and the New Father, the firstborn, is our 'husband' after the regenerated body is received, as it was from His side that we were brought forth. as Eve was from Adam -see?
I don't know if I answered your question as you asked it-
All the tribulation martyrs will be raised to rule, the Word says; but they are hte last of the harvest of the first 'resurrection'; and all those who were resurrected at the beginning of the Day of the LORD, which happened seven years before the end of the trib, will not be given rule, especially, for rule is rewards given to the regenerated and is based upon their own lives lived AFTER they were born again.
The thief on the cross was immediately with the LORD and in His kingdom the moment he died, -having no 'works' other than the one work required to enter into Life -believing upon His name; for he died after the veil was split in the temple that showed the end of the separation from the Presence of His glory -which separation is the first death that is ended -at the cross- for all who call upon His name and for all 'Adam' who have departed their adamic bodies having done no right or wrong with understanding while in their adamic bodies -all babies are His who die, but they have no rewards other than regeneration and being temples of the Living God by His indwelling Presence -reward enough for many of us!
Personally, I haven't accomplished any great thing that I can imagine ruling in His kingdom for. I'd just like to garden and build a cute cottage and invite everyone over for tea and have great praise times together, while we worship Him in glory -for beginnings!
because it's saying that the second death has no power over them... it doesn't say that the first resurrection is a prerequisite...although I understand what you mean... 
