Reparative theropy

[ALiberalTeen]

Can someone truly be "cured" of homosexuality? several religious groups say so, while practically every single major medical association in the world condemns it. What do you think? can homosexuals change their orientation? I myself don't and find the whole idea that I can become straight to be crazy.

 

[MrPirate]

Reparative therapy is a joke…just not a funny one

From the APA position statement:

In the past, defining homosexuality as an illness buttressed society's moral opprobrium of same-sex relationships. In the current social climate, claiming homosexuality is a mental disorder stems from efforts to discredit the growing social acceptance of homosexuality as a normal variant of human sexuality.

1. APA affirms its 1973 position that homosexuality per se is not a diagnosable mental disorder. Recent publicized efforts to repathologize homosexuality by claiming that it can be cured are often guided not by rigorous scientific or psychiatric research, but sometimes by religious and political forces opposed to full civil rights for gay men and lesbians. APA recommends that the APA respond quickly and appropriately as a scientific organization when claims that homosexuality is a curable illness are made by political or religious groups.
2. As a general principle, a therapist should not determine the goal of treatment either coercively or through subtle influence. Psychotherapeutic modalities to convert or "repair" homosexuality are based on developmental theories whose scientific validity is questionable. Furthermore, anecdotal reports of "cures" are counterbalanced by anecdotal claims of psychological harm. In the last four decades, "reparative" therapists have not produced any rigorous scientific research to substantiate their claims of cure. Until there is such research available, APA recommends that ethical practitioners refrain from attempts to change individuals' sexual orientation, keeping in mind the medical dictum to first, do no harm.
3. The "reparative" therapy literature uses theories that make it difficult to formulate scientific selection criteria for their treatment modality. This literature not only ignores the impact of social stigma in motivating efforts to cure homosexuality; it is a literature that actively stigmatizes homosexuality as well. "Reparative" therapy literature also tends to overstate the treatment's accomplishments while neglecting any potential risks to patients. APA encourages and supports research in the NIMH and the academic research community to further determines "reparative" therapy's risks versus its benefits.

 

[Apollo Celestio]

The power of Christ is enough to conquer any sinful lifestyle. Same sex attraction is not a sin, it's the act. So you may want rephrase your question into something doing with marriage. Can someone lose their same-sex attraction? I'm not sure.

 

[MrPirate]

The power of Christ is enough to conquer any sinful lifestyle. Same sex attraction is not a sin, it's the act. So you may want rephrase your question into something doing with marriage. Can someone lose their same-sex attraction? I'm not sure.

Interesting you vote that somehow and despite complete lack of evidence homosexuals can change into heterosexuals…yet in the thread you stat “I’m not sure”

 

[Jet_A_Jockey]

i misread the post lol.

 

[Apollo Celestio]

Interesting you vote that somehow and despite complete lack of evidence homosexuals can change into heterosexuals…yet in the thread you stat “I’m not sure”

You who say homosexual acts are not sin did not vote this? "Yes, through the power of christ, homosexuals can repent from lifestyles of sin." If homosexuality(which it isn't, it's the acts that are.) is not sin, can Christ not save them from sinful lifestyles just as he does heterosexuals? (Christ came for all.)
Considering my views on where the sin lies, I voted yes, because he can conquer it. And he has, as scripture states that none can resist the will of the father. So even with my view, I cannot say that i'm sure that someone loses their attractions or temptations as I do not know their minds, nor their hearts. But if the father were to will it..

 

[Pogue]

I think if you tell someone that they're heterosexual enough times, they might start to believe it, despite the fact that they are homosexual. Of course God could change a person's sexuality (as he's omnipotent) but I don't think anything else, including going to therapy, can change your sexual orientation.

 

[Phinehas2]

I dont know about Reparative theropy, but Jesus Christ can change people, I know Jesus changed me.
Some things are not possible with man, but all things are possible with God. Matt 19.

 

[ChaliceThunder]

The only thing anyone can change is their desire to be in the open about their sexuality.

Orientation is orientation - we don't get re-oriented. Does anyone think a straight person can be made gay?

 

[Phinehas2]

Dear ChaliceThunder,

The only thing anyone can change is their desire to be in the open about their sexuality.

Orientation is orientation - we don't get re-oriented. Does anyone think a straight person can be made gay?

Then again you are a non believer on this matter. As I pointed out to you Jesus said all things are possible with God.

Matthew 19:26 “Jesus looked at them and said, "With man this is impossible, but with God all things are possible."
Mark 10:27 “Jesus looked at them and said, "With man this is impossible, but not with God; all things are possible with God."
Luke 18:27 “Jesus replied, "What is impossible with men is possible with God."
1 Cor 6:9 Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.

 

[MrPirate]

The only thing anyone can change is their desire to be in the open about their sexuality.

Truth

Orientation is orientation - we don't get re-oriented. Does anyone think a straight person can be made gay?

Notice how fast those approving of the lie of "reparative therapy" back awway from this question.

 

[Apollo Celestio]

I've never heard of it before this topic, actually.

 

[TheFathersDaughter]

Anything is possible. But the way most places go about it is sickening and working backwards.

 

[lmnop9876]

homosexual orientation =/= homosexual lifestyle.

the poll is fundamentally flawed.

 

[ALiberalTeen]

Maybe I could of worded it better, can a homosexual's orientation be changed?

 

[lmnop9876]

Maybe I could of worded it better, can a homosexual's orientation be changed?

in that case, i'd say, in the vast majority of cases, no, it can't. those cases where orientation can't be changed would probably be those that have both a biological and a developmental basis. in cases that had only a developmental basis, it may in some instances be possible.

 

[jad123]

I think there are only 2 answers. Yes and I do not know. I learned long ago never to question the power of the Lord.

 

[ChaliceThunder]

Dear ChaliceThunder,
Then again you are a non believer on this matter. As I pointed out to you Jesus said all things are possible with God.

Matthew 19:26 “Jesus looked at them and said, "With man this is impossible, but with God all things are possible."
Mark 10:27 “Jesus looked at them and said, "With man this is impossible, but not with God; all things are possible with God."
Luke 18:27 “Jesus replied, "What is impossible with men is possible with God."
1 Cor 6:9 Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.

You fail to understand the passages you quote and the nature of sexual orientation.

 

[Phinehas2]

Dear ChaliceThunder,

You fail to understand the passages you quote

How do you know? I havent commented on them yet. I suggest if you claim you dont understand them you dont believe them.

and the nature of sexual orientation.

I understand the nature of sexual orientation perfectly well I have one myself.

 

[Jet_A_Jockey]

You fail to understand the passages you quote and the nature of sexual orientation.

I think he is saying that with God all things are possible, meaning God can do anything. If He can create the universe, then He can most definitely change a sexual orientation.