Religious Tolerance

[thirsty]

Christ is all about relationship not religion.

 

[Born_to_Lose_Live_to_Win]

Christ is all about relationship not religion.

Now you are closer to the truth.

I accept each and every word you said.

Thank you.

You are truly seeking Christ.

My humble hats-off to you.

 

[morningstar2651]

Define 'proof'.

Proof

Noun
1. The evidence or argument that compels the mind to accept an assertion as true.
2.
1. The validation of a proposition by application of specified rules, as of induction or deduction, to assumptions, axioms, and sequentially derived conclusions.
2. A statement or argument used in such a validation.
3.
1. Convincing or persuasive demonstration: was asked for proof of his identity; an employment history that was proof of her dependability.
2. The state of being convinced or persuaded by consideration of evidence.
4. Determination of the quality of something by testing; trial: put one's beliefs to the proof.
5. Law. The result or effect of evidence; the establishment or denial of a fact by evidence.
6. The alcoholic strength of a liquor, expressed by a number that is twice the percentage by volume of alcohol present.
7. Printing.
1. A trial sheet of printed material that is made to be checked and corrected. Also called proof sheet.
2. A trial impression of a plate, stone, or block taken at any of various stages in engraving.
8.
1. A trial photographic print.
2. Any of a limited number of newly minted coins or medals struck as specimens and for collectors from a new die on a polished planchet.
9. Archaic. Proven impenetrability: “I was clothed in Armor of proof” (John Bunyan).


Adjective.

1. Fully or successfully resistant; impervious. Often used in combination: waterproof watches; a fireproof cellar door.
2. Of standard alcoholic strength.
3. Used in proving or making corrections.

 

[Lokisdottir]

Thank you.

 

[feral]

Wonderful thing, tolerance. The best philosophy in the world for dealing with other people in a peaceful manner. If only it wasn't so difficult! Unfortunately, some people see tolerance as synonymous with acceptance, and cannot seem to grasp the idea of live and let live, letting others make their own choices without bashing them. I think for those of us who want to consider ourselves tolerant, our biggest challenge is dealing with those who seem, by our standard, intolerant. There is little difference between not tolerating someone because they have a different religious view, and not tolerating someone because they do not share our appreciation for tolerance. Too often, we end up angry at people for not being tolerant, without realizing we are doing the exact same thing. I think for us, trying to understand the experiences and views that have resulted in intolerance or bias would be the best thing.

 

[thirsty]

Now you are closer to the truth.

I accept each and every word you said.

Thank you.

You are truly seeking Christ.

My humble hats-off to you.

Peace Brother.

 

[Bookofknowledge]

5:27
Recite to them in all truth the story of Adam's two sons: How each offered a sacrifice, and how the offering of one was accepted while that of the other was not. The latter said: "I will kill you." The former replied: "Allah only accepts the sacrifice from the righteous.

5:28
Even if you stretch your hand to kill me, I shall not stretch my hand to slay you, for I fear Allah, the Rabb of the worlds.

5:29
I intend to let you bear the burden of my sins as well as yours and thus become an inmate of the Fire which is the reward for wrongdoers."

5:30
The latter's soul prompted him to kill his brother; he killed him and thus became one of the losers.

5:31
(He carried around the dead body of his brother and did not know what to do with it.) Then Allah sent a raven, which dug the ground to show him how to bury the dead body of his brother. "Alas!" He cried, "I failed even to be like this raven to find some way to dispose of the dead body of my brother!" So he became full of regrets.

But when it comes to dealing with oppressors God has commanded to Fight

4:75
And what reason do you have not to fight in the cause of Allah, to rescue the helpless oppressed old men, women, and children who are crying: "Our Rabb! Deliver us from this town whose people are oppressors; send us a protector by Your grace and send us a helper from Your presence?"

4:76
Those who are believers fight in the cause of Allah and those who are unbelievers fight in the cause of Taghut (forces of Shaitan): so fight against the helpers of Shaitan; surely, Shaitan's crafty schemes are very weak.

 

[Born_to_Lose_Live_to_Win]

Peace Brother.

 

[Born_to_Lose_Live_to_Win]

Believers of God should fight against the forces of Shaitan.

Let them hear, who have ears to hear

 

[Montalban]

What church do you mean?

The Orthodox church of yours or the pentecostal church of thirsty's or my own church of my heart?

Where-in did Jesus teach the church is but in the heart?

 

[Bookofknowledge]

Believers of God should fight against the forces of Shaitan.

Let them hear, who have ears to hear

Are you saying those who oppress are righteous?

 

[Montalban]

That's what the Orthodox church or the Roman Catholic church too believes. They don't accept the Protestants.

They also believe, "Because its old, its good!"

Tell me 'bout it!!

That was your argument. You need to stop telling people what other churches believe, based on your own ignorance of them.

Show me the Orthodox teaching that states what you believe it states. It's an easy proposition... if it exists.

 

[Montalban]

Proof
Noun
1. The evidence or argument that compels the mind to accept an assertion as true.
2.
1. The validation of a proposition by application of specified rules, as of induction or deduction, to assumptions, axioms, and sequentially derived conclusions.
2. A statement or argument used in such a validation.
3.
1. Convincing or persuasive demonstration: was asked for proof of his identity; an employment history that was proof of her dependability.
2. The state of being convinced or persuaded by consideration of evidence.
4. Determination of the quality of something by testing; trial: put one's beliefs to the proof.
5. Law. The result or effect of evidence; the establishment or denial of a fact by evidence.
6. The alcoholic strength of a liquor, expressed by a number that is twice the percentage by volume of alcohol present.
7. Printing.
1. A trial sheet of printed material that is made to be checked and corrected. Also called proof sheet.
2. A trial impression of a plate, stone, or block taken at any of various stages in engraving.
8.
1. A trial photographic print.
2. Any of a limited number of newly minted coins or medals struck as specimens and for collectors from a new die on a polished planchet.
9. Archaic. Proven impenetrability: “I was clothed in Armor of proof” (John Bunyan).


Adjective.

1. Fully or successfully resistant; impervious. Often used in combination: waterproof watches; a fireproof cellar door.
2. Of standard alcoholic strength.
3. Used in proving or making corrections.

Then your statement about no proof is false.

 

[Montalban]

Wonderful thing, tolerance. The best philosophy in the world for dealing with other people in a peaceful manner. If only it wasn't so difficult! Unfortunately, some people see tolerance as synonymous with acceptance, and cannot seem to grasp the idea of live and let live, letting others make their own choices without bashing them. I think for those of us who want to consider ourselves tolerant, our biggest challenge is dealing with those who seem, by our standard, intolerant. There is little difference between not tolerating someone because they have a different religious view, and not tolerating someone because they do not share our appreciation for tolerance. Too often, we end up angry at people for not being tolerant, without realizing we are doing the exact same thing. I think for us, trying to understand the experiences and views that have resulted in intolerance or bias would be the best thing.

Would you 'tolerate' suttee?

 

[Born_to_Lose_Live_to_Win]

Where-in did Jesus teach the church is but in the heart?

Where-in did Jesus teach the only Church is the Orthodox church?

Where-in did Jesus teach one has to follow certain traditions and customs to worship Him?

He preached His apostles to spread His message and not to create an Orthodox church.

His apostles and their disciples formed a church according to the ways of man.

The Holy Spirit is assured for each and everyone who accepts Christ.

I don't have to follow man-made traditions to get the gift of the Holy Spirit.

If I choose to follow a certain tradition, it is of my own will because no man-made tradition is right, only Christ matters.

 

[feral]

Would you 'tolerate' suttee?

Suttee?

 

[Born_to_Lose_Live_to_Win]

Are you saying those who oppress are righteous?

Oppressors can never be righteous.

Not all unbelievers are oppressors.

If some unbeliever had oppressed a believer in one part of the world, that does not mean some other unbeliever in another part of the world is an oppressor.

I will always fight against oppressors.

 

[Born_to_Lose_Live_to_Win]

Would you 'tolerate' suttee?

Can you please get off the India thing!

My humble request.


People, can anyone tolerate the extermination of the aboriginies of Australia?

Can anyone tolerate the burning of witches at the stakes in the middle ages?

Can anyone tolerate the wiping-off of native Americans in America?

If some one cannot tolerate the above three, he will also not tolerate Suttee.

 

[morningstar2651]

Then your statement about no proof is false.

Why?

 

[Montalban]

Suttee?

It was the religious practice by some where a widow was thrown on the funeral pyre of her late husband; so she could join her in the next life.

You want to make a difference between 'acceptance' and 'toleration'. Would you 'accept' it? Would you 'tolerate' it?