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You need to keep your arguments straight.We do have the clear words of Paul in Romans six saying that indeed baptism is our second birth. John gives us clear notification in twenty second verse of the same chapter that Jesus was indeed talking about baptism.
You say that circumcision is the new baptism, which if true, Paul would argue that justification would need to come before baptism since Abraham was justified before he was circumcised.
Then you argue that Paul says that baptism is our second birth, which would contradict most everything he’s said up to that point. And, he never comes close to saying that in chapter 6, or elsewhere. You are welcome to try to show it, though. (And John 3:22 says nothing about baptism being required for regeneration or justification or that it was in reference to v. 6.)
So far your arguments have been a verse here and a verse there, with no context, and a lot of presupposition. You haven’t made one argument from scripture that shows how we can be justified by faith, which requires no work, and still need a work to be both regenerated and justified. Not to mention, you might want to explain how we can do all these good things (baptism, faith, etc) in the flesh when scripture says that we cannot please God in the flesh.
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