2 a: to give up resentment of or claim to requital
If you give up the claim to requital, the outcome is the same as your paying the debt--the debtor's holdings are permanently increased, and your holdings are permanently reduced in that regard.
Right! the result of forgiving the debt and paying the debt is the same,
but being required to do both is totally wrong.
And by that some token Scripture tells us that God is just, that everything he does is just and good (Isaiah 40:13-14; Psalm 89:14)
and is best and right (Deuteronomy 32:4; Psalm 119:68; Daniel 4:37)
. . .and that includes the murder of his only begotten Son.
God did not see to the torture, humiliation and
murder of His son, but God did allow wicked people to unjustly torture, humiliate and murder His son at a huge painful sacrifice and all for the benefit of humans. God Loves us all that much. God does not lack anything in His ability to forgive that would require Christ to go to the cross, but I needed Christ to go to the cross to help me.
Your disagreement is with God (Romans 3:23-25), you'll have to take it up with him.
Ro. 3: 23-25 is a huge topic which I have discussed many times, here is a brief explanation:
Paul in Ro. 3:25 giving the extreme contrast between the way sins where handle prior to the cross and after the cross, so if they were actually handled the same way “by the cross” there would be no contrast, only a time factor, but Paul said (forgiven) sins prior to the cross where left “unpunished” (NIV), but that also should mean the forgiven “sinner” after the cross were punished.
From Romans 3: 25 Paul tells us: God presented Christ as a sacrifice of atonement, through the shedding of his blood—to be received by faith. …
Another way of saying this would be “God offers the ransom payment (Christ Crucified and the blood that flowed from Him) to those that have the faith to receive that ransom. A lack of faith results in the refusal of the ransom payment (Christ crucified).
God is not the undeserving kidnapper nor is satan worthy of a ransom, but the unbeliever is himself is holding back the child of God from the Father, that child that is within every one of us.
Paul goes on to explain:
Ro. 3: 25 …He did this to demonstrate his righteousness, because in his forbearance he had left the sins committed beforehand unpunished
I do not like the word “unpunished” but would use “undisciplined”.
So prior to the cross repentant forgiven people (saved individuals) could not be fairly and justly disciplined for the rebellious disobedience, but after the cross if we repent (come to our senses and turn to God) we can be fairly and justly disciplined and yet survive.
God and Christ would have personally preferred Christ’s blood to remain flowing through his veins, but it is I that need to have that blood outside of Christ flowing over me and in me cleansing my heart. I need to feel that blood and know it is cleansing me.
If you think about the crucifixion, you would realize, at the time Christ was on the cross, God in heaven out of empathy/Love for Christ would be experience an even greater pain than Christ. We as our Love grows and our realization of what we personally caused Christ to go through will feel the death blow to our hearts (Acts 2:37). We will experience the greatest pain we could experience and still live, which is the way God is disciplining us today and for all the right reasons because Loving discipline correctly accepted results in a wondrous relationship with our parent. (We can now comfortably feel justified before God.)
I use the NIV all though I do not like any translation, NIV does what I consider to be the best translation of the Greek word πάρεσις (paresis) which most just translate with “past over”, since the NIV translates it “left the sins committed beforehand unpunished”. The Greek word Πάρεσις is only found here in the Greek New Testament and not used at all in the Greek Old Testament, so it is difficult to translate, but really not that hard, since secular koine Greek manuscripts can be found using πάρεσις. It is used to describe when a lender, on rare occasions, does not put a debtor in prison to try and get some of his money back from friends and relatives of the debtor, before releasing him. So, in the context of Ro. 3:25 the forgiven sinners prior to the cross were not disciplined/punished for their sins but were just forgiven and let go. Since Paul is making his argument showing a huge contrast between Jews before and after the cross, those after the cross would have to go through some “punishment” or better expressed as some disciplining to be a contrast.
There are lots of excellent benefits from being disciplined, but prior to Christ’s crucifixion, there was no way to fairly/justly discipline a rebellious disobedient repentant child seeking forgiveness and allow the child to live. The disciplines were just too hard being banishment or physical death. By Christ going to the cross, we can now be “crucified with Christ”, empathetically. How severe of a disciplining is this for Christians and how would it compare to the pain and sorrow God went through while Christ was crucified?
Notice there is no language suggesting the sins are put on hold, rolled forward or dealt with later, but are “passed over”/left unpunished.
I don't have to find it, I already know from the Scriptures above that he is wise and just, and best, and right.
But I do find it in the "Gospel" of Isaiah 52:13-15, con't. in Isaiah 53:1-12.
There was no sacrifice for intentional sin, you died in your guilt. . .a picture of dying in unbelief.
Specifically, what are you finding In Is, 52 and 53, since that takes a lot to explain.
Every mature adult, including Jews, at some time in their life would have committed one of these intentional sins (even Paul did). Yet people prior to the cross were forgiven, yet did not receive a fair/just disciplining, while after the cross saved individuals are both forgiven and disciplined.
