Questions For Darwinists

[Psudopod]

Evolution does not claim Abiogenesis!
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Yes it does.

Nope, just needs imperfect replicators. These can be algorythms or circuits as well as living things.

 

[BigBadWlf]

That's because I have soul.

How come we have never seen it?

 

[Ellinas]

Yes.

People who believe in atoms are called atomists.

In this case then I and all humans have innumerable belief labels like: Heliocentrist atomist thermodynamist relativist medicinist atronomist etc etc ad infinitum.

"As for science and religion, the known and admitted facts are few and plain enough. All that the parsons say is unproved. All that the doctors say is disproved. That's the only difference between science and religion there's ever been, or will be." -- G. K. Chesterton, writer, Manalive, 1912

"Anybody who has been seriously engaged in scientific work of any kind realizes that over the entrance to the gates of the temple of science are written the words: 'Ye must have faith.'" -- Max Planck, physicist, 1932

Do you have anything remotely contemporary to quote? Science has progressed beyond your imagination since 1932

That's because I have soul.

Prove it! Define soul! sorry but no such thing exists!

There are bacteria in my stomach that are alive.

You consider bacteria as chemicals and or molecules? Bacteria are living things and just like you are made up of non living chemicals. You have just proven to me that you are in want when it comes to anything scientific. Sorry but you really need to learn before you denounce.
You really do not have even the slightest grasp of what science is!
I do not mean to be insultive but it is very bad form to purposely use false information in order to justify your hatred for erudition.

 

[Agonaces of Susa]

How come we have never seen it?

How come we've never seen your brain?

 

[Agonaces of Susa]

Do you have anything remotely contemporary to quote? Science has progressed beyond your imagination since 1932

Do you claim that gravitation and relativity are myths because they were published before 1932?

"So I get all these results and now I'm unshiftable. I'm totally unshiftable now because it's sort of religion with me. That is the word of God. ... It's there. It's like the road to Damascus, you know in the Christian Doctrine. Your eyes are opened. And I don't move much from then onwards." --Fred Hoyle, cosmologist, July 5th 1996

Prove it! Define soul! sorry but no such thing exists!

"Democritus roundly identifies soul and mind, for he identifies what appears with what is true -- that is why he commends Homer for the phrase 'Hector lay with thought distraught.'" -- Aristotle, philosopher, On The Soul, 350 B.C.

"Democritus has expressed himself more ingeniously than the rest on the grounds for ascribing each of these two characters to soul; soul and mind are, he says, one and the same thing, and this thing must be one of the primary and indivisible bodies, and its power of originating movement must be due to its fineness of grain and the shape of its atoms...." -- Aristotle, philosopher, On The Soul, 350 B.C.

You consider bacteria as chemicals and or molecules? Bacteria are living things and just like you are made up of non living chemicals.

Do you think bacteria have souls?

 

[laconicstudent]

Do you think bacteria have souls?

An irrelevant point, since the existence of a "soul" is a religious idea that has no basis in science.

 

[Nathan Poe]

How come we've never seen your brain?

Actually, I have -- took an MRI a couple years ago.

You?

 

[Agonaces of Susa]

Actually, I have -- took an MRI a couple years ago.

You?

I've also had an M.R.I. of my brain but that doesn't mean either of us have seen BigBadWolf's brain.

Furthermore, just as I have taken an M.R.I. image of my brain, I was also in the presence of a psychic who claimed that my soul aura is indigo.

You?

 

[reverend C]

I've also had an M.R.I. of my brain but that doesn't mean either of us have seen BigBadWolf's brain.

Furthermore, just as I have taken an M.R.I. image of my brain, I was also in the presence of a psychic who claimed that my soul aura is indigo.

You?

according to scripture this is a sin, consorting with psychics.

 

[Agonaces of Susa]

according to scripture this is a sin, consorting with psychics.

"As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:" -- Romans 3:10

"For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself." -- Galatians 5:14

 

[LifeToTheFullest!]

How come we don't observe any new animals evolving?

How come abiogenesis has never been observed in nature or the laboratory?

How come we don't observe spontaneous generation of life?

We do.

Abiogenesis =/= ToE

 

[BigBadWlf]

How come we've never seen your brain?

I have a lovely MRI of my brain…it’s not terribly cute or anything…all wrinkley ….But I like it

Back to my question you claim you have a soul…why haven’t we ever witnessed a soul?

 

[Agonaces of Susa]

Back to my question you claim you have a soul…why haven’t we ever witnessed a soul?

We have.

You just think you haven't.

"Democritus roundly identifies soul and mind, for he identifies what appears with what is true -- that is why he commends Homer for the phrase 'Hector lay with thought distraught.'" -- Aristotle, philosopher, On The Soul, 350 B.C.

"Democritus has expressed himself more ingeniously than the rest on the grounds for ascribing each of these two characters to soul; soul and mind are, he says, one and the same thing, and this thing must be one of the primary and indivisible bodies, and its power of originating movement must be due to its fineness of grain and the shape of its atoms...." -- Aristotle, philosopher, On The Soul, 350 B.C.

 

[BigBadWlf]

We have.

You just think you haven't.

"Democritus roundly identifies soul and mind, for he identifies what appears with what is true -- that is why he commends Homer for the phrase 'Hector lay with thought distraught.'" -- Aristotle, philosopher, On The Soul, 350 B.C.

"Democritus has expressed himself more ingeniously than the rest on the grounds for ascribing each of these two characters to soul; soul and mind are, he says, one and the same thing, and this thing must be one of the primary and indivisible bodies, and its power of originating movement must be due to its fineness of grain and the shape of its atoms...." -- Aristotle, philosopher, On The Soul, 350 B.C.

Haven’t seen a soul yet. Once again why don’t we observe souls?

 

[Agonaces of Susa]

Haven’t seen a soul yet.

Just because you haven't seen your mind doesn't mean it does not exist.

Once again why don’t we observe souls?

Once again: we do.

 

[Gishin]

Just because you haven't seen your mind doesn't mean it does not exist.


Once again: we do.

We have observed evidence of the existence of the human mind, we have none of the existence of the soul. You know this, you're just being cute.

 

[Nathan Poe]

Just because you haven't seen your mind doesn't mean it does not exist.


Once again: we do.

Once again -- we've seen our minds.

 

[Ellinas]

"Democritus has expressed himself more ingeniously than the rest on the grounds for ascribing each of these two characters to soul; soul and mind are, he says, one and the same thing, and this thing must be one of the primary and indivisible bodies, and its power of originating movement must be due to its fineness of grain and the shape of its atoms...." -- Aristotle, philosopher, On The Soul, 350 B.C.

Thank you for proving my point. Democritus was pointing out the fact that the soul is nothing more than the result of sentience and sentience is a product of the physical world. The Ionian philosophers were basically atheists. They believed that everything in existence has natural explanations.

Ancient Greek philosophers logically concluded things like:

Everything is made up of indivisible particles (atoms). Democritus circa 400 BC

The earth is round. 600 BC (all philosophers of repute accepted this)

The earth revolves around the sun (Heliocentrism). Aristarchus circa 320 BC

Evolution and the origin of life. Anaximander believed that marine life was the first life on Earth and that changes happened to animals when they moved to dry land. Empedocles had the idea of chance combinations of organs arising and dying out because of their lack of adaptation. Aristotle, a Greek philosopher who contributed many works in the sciences, believed that there is purpose in the workings of nature, and mistakes are also made. He thought that nature working so perfectly is a necessity. Aristotle believed that nature is everything in the environment, like the sky rains, and the plants grow from the sun. Aristotle's theory fits very well with natural selection.
Natural selection makes it necessary for animals and nature fit perfectly - 'survival of the fittest'. If they didn't, then that specific organism would die out, weeding out the characteristics that were unfit for that environment.
That same organism's species might evolve over time and acquire adaptations suitable for the environment, so that newly evolved species can survive and flourish with offspring.

There must be other planets with life in the cosmos. [FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Democritus circa 400 BC There are innumerable worlds of different sizes. In some there is neither sun nor moon, in others they are larger than in ours and others have more than one. These worlds are at irregular distances, more in one direction and less in another, and some are flourishing, others declining. Here they come into being, there they die, and they are destroyed by collision with one another. Some of the worlds have no animal or vegetable life nor any water.[/FONT]

The universe was not created by god or gods. Heraclitus circa 500 BC

Disease was a natural phenomenon and not attributed to demons nor spirits. Hyppocrates circa 400 BC.

 

[ReverendDG]

We have.

You just think you haven't.

"Democritus roundly identifies soul and mind, for he identifies what appears with what is true -- that is why he commends Homer for the phrase 'Hector lay with thought distraught.'" -- Aristotle, philosopher, On The Soul, 350 B.C.

"Democritus has expressed himself more ingeniously than the rest on the grounds for ascribing each of these two characters to soul; soul and mind are, he says, one and the same thing, and this thing must be one of the primary and indivisible bodies, and its power of originating movement must be due to its fineness of grain and the shape of its atoms...." -- Aristotle, philosopher, On The Soul, 350 B.C.

once again you post useless quotes from dead people to make an argument.
do you really think anyone cares what philosophers who have been dead for 2 thousand years or more think?

where have we seen the soul? what does it look like? what does it do? is it the sum of all the parts of the brain or only part of it?
how about you use your own words instead of c+ping quotes from people who have never heard of north america?

 

[laconicstudent]

I want a picture of a soul, since we apparently see them.

To be fair, here is a picture of the brain, seat of the mind, in its natural habitat.