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Once again -- we've seen our minds.
Then we've also seen our souls.

"Democritus roundly identifies soul and mind, for he identifies what appears with what is true -- that is why he commends Homer for the phrase 'Hector lay with thought distraught.'" -- Aristotle, philosopher, On The Soul, 350 B.C.

"Democritus has expressed himself more ingeniously than the rest on the grounds for ascribing each of these two characters to soul; soul and mind are, he says, one and the same thing, and this thing must be one of the primary and indivisible bodies, and its power of originating movement must be due to its fineness of grain and the shape of its atoms...." -- Aristotle, philosopher, On The Soul, 350 B.C.
 
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I want a picture of a soul, since we apparently see them.

To be fair, here is a picture of the brain, seat of the mind, in its natural habitat.
That's a picture of a brain.

I asked for a picture of a mind not a brain.

Because if you can show me a picture of a mind then you have also shown me a picture of the soul.

"Democritus roundly identifies soul and mind, for he identifies what appears with what is true -- that is why he commends Homer for the phrase 'Hector lay with thought distraught.'" -- Aristotle, philosopher, On The Soul, 350 B.C.

"Democritus has expressed himself more ingeniously than the rest on the grounds for ascribing each of these two characters to soul; soul and mind are, he says, one and the same thing, and this thing must be one of the primary and indivisible bodies, and its power of originating movement must be due to its fineness of grain and the shape of its atoms...." -- Aristotle, philosopher, On The Soul, 350 B.C.
 
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We know the mind exists
Then we know the soul exists because soul and mind are one and the same thing.

"Democritus roundly identifies soul and mind, for he identifies what appears with what is true -- that is why he commends Homer for the phrase 'Hector lay with thought distraught.'" -- Aristotle, philosopher, On The Soul, 350 B.C.

"Democritus has expressed himself more ingeniously than the rest on the grounds for ascribing each of these two characters to soul; soul and mind are, he says, one and the same thing, and this thing must be one of the primary and indivisible bodies, and its power of originating movement must be due to its fineness of grain and the shape of its atoms...." -- Aristotle, philosopher, On The Soul, 350 B.C.

.. we don't need to see something to know it exists.
I agree. We don't need to see the soul to know it exists.

There's no evidence for us having souls at all.
Then there is no evidence for us having minds since souls and minds are one and the same thing.
 
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Then we've also seen our souls.

"Democritus roundly identifies soul and mind, for he identifies what appears with what is true -- that is why he commends Homer for the phrase 'Hector lay with thought distraught.'" -- Aristotle, philosopher, On The Soul, 350 B.C.

"Democritus has expressed himself more ingeniously than the rest on the grounds for ascribing each of these two characters to soul; soul and mind are, he says, one and the same thing, and this thing must be one of the primary and indivisible bodies, and its power of originating movement must be due to its fineness of grain and the shape of its atoms...." -- Aristotle, philosopher, On The Soul, 350 B.C.

I take it then that Aristotle has more interesting things to say on this and many other topics than you do?
 
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Then we know the soul exists because soul and mind are one and the same thing.

"Democritus roundly identifies soul and mind, for he identifies what appears with what is true -- that is why he commends Homer for the phrase 'Hector lay with thought distraught.'" -- Aristotle, philosopher, On The Soul, 350 B.C.

"Democritus has expressed himself more ingeniously than the rest on the grounds for ascribing each of these two characters to soul; soul and mind are, he says, one and the same thing, and this thing must be one of the primary and indivisible bodies, and its power of originating movement must be due to its fineness of grain and the shape of its atoms...." -- Aristotle, philosopher, On The Soul, 350 B.C.


I agree. We don't need to see the soul to know it exists.


Then there is no evidence for us having minds since souls and minds are one and the same thing.


So if our brain is damaged it screws up our souls?
 
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That's a picture of a brain.

I asked for a picture of a mind not a brain.

Because if you can show me a picture of a mind then you have also shown me a picture of the soul.

"Democritus roundly identifies soul and mind, for he identifies what appears with what is true -- that is why he commends Homer for the phrase 'Hector lay with thought distraught.'" -- Aristotle, philosopher, On The Soul, 350 B.C.

"Democritus has expressed himself more ingeniously than the rest on the grounds for ascribing each of these two characters to soul; soul and mind are, he says, one and the same thing, and this thing must be one of the primary and indivisible bodies, and its power of originating movement must be due to its fineness of grain and the shape of its atoms...." -- Aristotle, philosopher, On The Soul, 350 B.C.
What is the soul made of? Maybe an "electromagnetic plasma". Charles Noonan Vind
 
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"the idea of taking a pre-man or hominid and creating someone who is aware of himself is something that Christianity is coming around to. The key is the distinction between the material body and the soul granted by God." ---Monsignor Corrado Balducci
 
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"the idea of taking a pre-man or hominid and creating someone who is aware of himself is something that Christianity is coming around to. The key is the distinction between the material body and the soul granted by God." ---Monsignor Corrado Balducci


quod erat demonstrandum
 
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Then we know the soul exists because soul and mind are one and the same thing.

If there is brain trauma, the mind can be altered dramatically in a documented way, even to the point where the mind can change irreparably. If there is brain trauma, can the soul be altered dramatically and irreparably?
 
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What is the soul made of?
Atoms.

If you actually read the content of what you are quoting, you would know the answer to that question.

Maybe an "electromagnetic plasma". Charles Noonan Vind
That's what Newton's hypothesis of gravitation states.

"And now we might add something concerning a certain most subtle spirit which pervades and lies hid in all gross bodies; by the force and action of which spirit the particles of bodies attract one another at near distances, and cohere, if contiguous; and electric bodies operate to greater distances, as well repelling as attracting the neighboring corpuscles; and light is emitted, reflected, refracted, inflected, and heats bodies; and all sensation is excited, and the members of animal bodies move at the command of the will, namely, by the vibrations of this spirit, mutually propagated along the solid filaments of the nerves, from the outward organs of sense to the brain, and from the brain into the muscles. But these are things that cannot be explained in few words, nor are we furnished with that sufficiency of experiments which is required to an accurate determination and demonstration of the laws by which this electric and elastic spirit operates." -- Isaac Newton, mathematician, 1686
 
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Your brain is your mind, there is no distinction as much as people want there to be.
Then your brain is your soul, there is no distinction as much as people want there to be.
 
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That's what Newton's hypothesis of gravitation states.

"And now we might add something concerning a certain most subtle spirit which pervades and lies hid in all gross bodies; by the force and action of which spirit the particles of bodies attract one another at near distances, and cohere, if contiguous; and electric bodies operate to greater distances, as well repelling as attracting the neighboring corpuscles; and light is emitted, reflected, refracted, inflected, and heats bodies; and all sensation is excited, and the members of animal bodies move at the command of the will, namely, by the vibrations of this spirit, mutually propagated along the solid filaments of the nerves, from the outward organs of sense to the brain, and from the brain into the muscles. But these are things that cannot be explained in few words, nor are we furnished with that sufficiency of experiments which is required to an accurate determination and demonstration of the laws by which this electric and elastic spirit operates." -- Isaac Newton, mathematician, 1686


So, the current canard is that Issac Newton scientifically "discovered" the human soul?
 
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