Questions about origins of life timeline

[szechuan]

Don't confuse the lost dominion of man with the fallen state of man. Sin destroys man, kills us, brings sickness, sorrow, and kills the planet too.

Man cannot save the planet any more than he can save himself!

Man did not create sickness, man does indeed kill the planet, but so do Christians. But man only Kills the planet because in this imperfect world(well not all the time), we need those things in order to survive our vast population.

The last phrase is entirely false, Men clearly have the power to save the planet.

God was in the creation story since Adam on through the days of Noah, Abraham, and Jesus. No one added it, science took it away! That is a crime against humanity.

You're right the creation story is just a story not based on any factual evidence. Science contributed many things to human kind and in fact we have been prospering more than ever because of Science.

We created Antibiotics and Medicine by understanding the evolution process of Bacteria and it's complexity and how it affects humans.

Science has brought us Light, Electricity, the computer you use to type this on. And many things, Science has contributed an enormous amount to human kind. Those scientists sure are a crime against humanity.

Also many other Gods predate the creation story of Adam and Eve.

 

[Armoured]

 

[szechuan]

No, not that we can recognize to anywhere near the extent that evo doctrine claims. Sure, bacteria evolve today...so? That doesn't mean Marylin Monroe resulted from evolution.

Actually it means Evolution exists. And there is much more evidence that Evolution exists than there is for a God.

 

[Kylie]

No, not that we can recognize to anywhere near the extent that evo doctrine claims. Sure, bacteria evolve today...so? That doesn't mean Marylin Monroe resulted from evolution.

But humans have all the hallmarks of being the product of evolution. Why would we have these if we hadn't evolved? Or is it just an amazing billions-to-one coincidence?

Look, if my brother was a flatworm, you could talk! When you say that your kin really were flatworms, you can't include me or my brother. I am not in the evo family tree.

You know nothing about evolution and are embarrassing yourself with these ridiculous strawman arguments.

Flatworms exist today! You claim they are in your lineage.

Are you incapable of comprehending English? I said very clearly that humans and flatworms have a common ancestor! Even the article you posted as proof for your point of view says this!

How about your mom? Can you be descended from her? She is a relative like you think the flatworm is your relative!

Are you serious? Do you really think that I can NOT be a descendent of my mother?

Astounding admission that you actually think copulating flatworms produced you eventually. Think about it. It should make evos angry that they were so duped.

Ah, so you decide what is true or not by how happy it makes you. That's a pretty bad way to get to the truth.

One minute they are relatives from whom you resulted by your own admission..the next minute, you seem to lose cohesiveness.

"..the team discovered that acoelomorphs have microRNAs that are only shared with deuterostomes suggesting that “humans are more closely related to acoel flatworms than we are to insects or clams or earthworms,” says Peterson,a molecular paleobiologist. “Because the acoelomorphs are nested high up within the tree, their simple morphology is one of secondary simplification rather than being primarily primitive.”

Dartmouth Professor Links Acoelomorpha Flatworm to Human Evolution | Dartmouth Now

Yeah, I'm not going to explain this. It would take too long, and honestly, you wouldn't read it. So I'm not going to waste my time.

But show me that you are actually willing to learn what evolution is and I'll explain it to you.

God was in the creation story since Adam on through the days of Noah, Abraham, and Jesus. No one added it, science took it away! That is a crime against humanity.

No, the people living thousands of years ago added the idea of God because they didn't have the knowledge to explain the world any other way. But now we have the knowledge, and we don't need God to explain things anymore.

Don't confuse the lost dominion of man with the fallen state of man. Sin destroys man, kills us, brings sickness, sorrow, and kills the planet too.

So sin is destroying the planet, not the human industry pumping tons of CO2 into the air? If Adam and Eve hadn't sinned, internal combustion engines would produce oxygen with a fresh pine scent, would they?

Man cannot save the planet any more than he can save himself!

And we'll never save ourselves if we rely on a millennia old book as a guide to how to live...

 

[dad]

Man did not create sickness, man does indeed kill the planet, but so do Christians. But man only Kills the planet because in this imperfect world(well not all the time), we need those things in order to survive our vast population.

The pollution and harm to the planet exceeds need.

The last phrase is entirely false, Men clearly have the power to save the planet.

No. They don't! You might think you do. Bit look around, The proof is in the pudding.

You're right the creation story is just a story not based on any factual evidence. Science contributed many things to human kind and in fact we have been prospering more than ever because of Science.

Why pretend I said stuff I didn't? Your attempted worship of science is missing all the bad that science gave us...nukes...mass abortions pollution..etc etc.

We created Antibiotics and Medicine by understanding the evolution process of Bacteria and it's complexity and how it affects humans.

And men abused it and they are almost useless now or supposed to be soon. If they unloose germ warfare guess how many would die?

Science has brought us Light,

The sun shone before science existed.

Electricity, the computer you use to type this on. And many things,

None of which apply to the creation debate! Try to get up and off your knees for a moment here, and focus.

Science has contributed an enormous amount to human kind. Those scientists sure are a crime against humanity.

Can't argue with that.

Also many other Gods predate the creation story of Adam and Eve.

By whose dating??! Gong!

 

[dad]

Actually it means Evolution exists.

??? God created life and it's ability to evolve...so??? What, you thought that was a point for your side??

And there is much more evidence that Evolution exists than there is for a God.

Evolution IS evidence God exists!

 

[dad]

But humans have all the hallmarks of being the product of evolution. Why would we have these if we hadn't evolved? Or is it just an amazing billions-to-one coincidence?

No idea what you are talking about. Name one hallmark?

Are you incapable of comprehending English? I said very clearly that humans and flatworms have a common ancestor! Even the article you posted as proof for your point of view says this!

You also said that you may have resulted from flatworm sex!

Are you serious? Do you really think that I can NOT be a descendent of my mother?

Your mom was not the point there. The copulating flatworms were.

Ah, so you decide what is true or not by how happy it makes you. That's a pretty bad way to get to the truth.

I think that being faced with the brutal ugliness of the theory should be shock therapy to help on the road to recovery from it. Flatworms having sex could have resulted in you eventually!!!?

But show me that you are actually willing to learn what evolution is and I'll explain it to you.

Evolution is Adam and all life evolving and adapting, rapidly in the former state, and slow in this present state. Anything contrary you try to explain will be destroyed as a fairy tale.

No, the people living thousands of years ago added the idea of God because they didn't have the knowledge to explain the world any other way.

Gossip. How would you know! In other words men have always believed in God. Having Him be invented is your invention!

But now we have the knowledge, and we don't need God to explain things anymore.

In your dreams.

So sin is destroying the planet, not the human industry pumping tons of CO2 into the air?

Correct. WW3m and pollution and etc are all results of sin. That is the problem...not saving whales.

If Adam and Eve hadn't sinned, internal combustion engines would produce oxygen with a fresh pine scent, would they?

No!

And we'll never save ourselves if we rely on a millennia old book as a guide to how to live...

You will never save yourself no matter what you rely on.

 

[Dusty Bin]

Actually it means Evolution exists. And there is much more evidence that Evolution exists than there is for a God.

I'm sorry but you're slightly wrong about that, there is no evidence for any Gods.
It's the reason all religions are called "Faiths".

 

[SkyWriting]

I'm sorry but you're slightly wrong about that, there is no evidence for any Gods.
It's the reason all religions are called "Faiths".

Entropy grows. This is scientific evidence of a first cause for everything.
Faith also exists in the exploration of existence before the big bang pop sizzle.

 

[Dusty Bin]

Entropy grows. This is scientific evidence of a first cause for everything.

Yes but the tooth fairy did that, of course if you doubt me you are welcome to show that I'm wrong.

 

[AV1611VET]

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I wonder how that future scientist would have responded if that Sunday school teacher would have asked:

"It's too bad you couldn't become an ant yoursef and dwell with them for 33 years, eh?"

 

[Armoured]

 

[Dusty Bin]

I wonder how that future scientist would have responded if that Sunday school teacher would have asked:

"It's too bad you couldn't become an ant yoursef and dwell with them for 33 years, eh?"

Where does it say he was for 33 years? was he supposed to be the son of God for all of those 33 years?
how come no one knew? didn't he stand out from the rest enough to make someone notice?
the whole story smells a little bit, it seems contrived if you ask me,
was he married? did he have any children? do we know if he even like girls?
he comes from nowhere performs a few party tricks and poof he becomes the son of God.

 

[TLK Valentine]

??? God created life and it's ability to evolve...so??? What, you thought that was a point for your side??





Evolution IS evidence God exists!

Never pegged you for a TE, dad.

 

[bhsmte]

Never pegged you for a TE, dad.

He is just trying to cover all the options. You know, that pesky evidence thing that just keeps lingering.

 

[Kylie]

No idea what you are talking about. Name one hallmark?

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You also said that you may have resulted from flatworm sex!

Worm ANCESTOR sex! Please pay attention.

Your mom was not the point there. The copulating flatworms were.

Okay, now you are incapable of following what you yourself have said: "How about your mom? Can you be descended from her?"

And yes, I am descended from my mum.

Really, your knowledge of biology is woeful.

I think that being faced with the brutal ugliness of the theory should be shock therapy to help on the road to recovery from it. Flatworms having sex could have resulted in you eventually!!!?

Worm ANCESTORS! How many times must I use the word ANCESTORS before you start reading it?

Evolution is Adam and all life evolving and adapting, rapidly in the former state, and slow in this present state. Anything contrary you try to explain will be destroyed as a fairy tale.

You dismiss it as a fairy tale because it doesn't fit with the fairy tale you already believe. Not the right way to get knowledge, dad.

Gossip. How would you know! In other words men have always believed in God. Having Him be invented is your invention!

Again, you just arbitrarily dismiss what you don't like.

In your dreams.

Sure, Whatever you say...

Correct. WW3m and pollution and etc are all results of sin. That is the problem...not saving whales.

I thought pollution was the result of burning fossil fuels and just dumping rubbish wherever.

No!

How can you say this when you just said pollution is the result of sin?

You will never save yourself no matter what you rely on.

Oh no! *shivers*

 

[dad]

Never pegged you for a TE, dad.

To be clear, rapid evolution was the order of the day in the far past for life based on the fossil record, and evidences. This started with the kinds created in one week, probably just over 6000 years ago. Since our present nature came to exist, evolving has been slow, and different.

Jesus created the universe, sun, stars, and man and life and oceans etc in creation week.

 

[dad]

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Nope! That could be adaptations from the nature change! How would you know?

Worm ANCESTOR sex! Please pay attention.

If the flatworms ARE claimed to be the oldest living ancestor would it not be possible (within your theory) that flatworm sex resulted in you? By the same token, the ancestors of the flatworm having sex would have resulted in the flatworm! No?

Really, your knowledge of biology is woeful.

That depends where and when you leave biology and descend into fairy tale evolution of man.

You dismiss it as a fairy tale because it doesn't fit with the fairy tale you already believe. Not the right way to get knowledge, dad.

No, because there is NO evidence.

I thought pollution was the result of burning fossil fuels and just dumping rubbish wherever.

No. It is a result of sin. So is the internal combustion engine! Without sin we would not have this state! Therefore the vile things of this state would not be here either.

 

[Kylie]

Nope! That could be adaptations from the nature change! How would you know?

You have no idea what you are talking about and your ignorance is painful.

If the flatworms ARE claimed to be the oldest living ancestor would it not be possible (within your theory) that flatworm sex resulted in you? By the same token, the ancestors of the flatworm having sex would have resulted in the flatworm! No?

Again, you have no idea what you are talking about and you are also not paying attention to what I am saying, because I have already explained this to you. I can only conclude that you are being deliberately stubborn.

That depends where and when you leave biology and descend into fairy tale evolution of man.

La la la got more than childish insults?

No, because there is NO evidence.

Your ignorance of it does not mean it doesn't exist. In fact, given that you have shown zero interest in learning about these things, I'd say there is likely a great deal about science that you are ignorant of.

No. It is a result of sin. So is the internal combustion engine! Without sin we would not have this state! Therefore the vile things of this state would not be here either.

So petrol burns because Eve ate an apple.

Yeah, sure.

 

[SkyWriting]

Yes but the tooth fairy did that, of course if you doubt me you are welcome to show that I'm wrong.

You are free to support your claims with data and majority opinion if you wish.