Question

[Beautyinsteadofashes]

The bible says to honor your mother and father. It also says thou shalt not lie. What if your mother tells you to lie?
Personally, Im not down with that. Yes, I have lied before, but that is not by any means a reason to do it again! That's just twisted logic. Well, you've done wrong in this regard before, what's once more?....ummm...no. Even if you have committed the same grievous, the same sin thousands of times you can still repent.
Edit: by the above statement I did not mean commit the same sin over and over, ask forgiveness but Not change your behavior, and do it over and over some more. True repentanence involves change.

 

[Jenniferdiana]

Lie about what?

 

[Beautyinsteadofashes]

Lie about what?

What I will be doing tomorrow

 

[Bluerose31]

The bible says to honor your mother and father. It also says thou shalt not lie. What if your mother tells you to lie?
Personally, Im not down with that. Yes, I have lied before, but that is not by any means a reason to do it again! That's just twisted logic. Well, you've done wrong in this regard before, what's once more?....ummm...no. Even if you have committed the same grievous, the same sin thousands of times you can still repent.
Edit: by the above statement I did not mean commit the same sin over and over, ask forgiveness but Not change your behavior, and do it over and over some more. True repentanence involves change.

Praying Jesus will help you with this

 

[Jenniferdiana]

What I will be doing tomorrow

Tell her you dont want to lie and that you think its wrong...

 

[Jenniferdiana]

My mom tells me to lie about some things sometimes..i feel bad doing it but sometimes i just do it because shes my mother and i want to obey her because i feel like obeying her is right thing in Gods eyes...but i know what you mean and understand you..

 

[Winken]

To lie is to fabricate or distort the truth. What about the Truth throughout God's Word? How skilled does one have to be in utter avoidance of avoiding that? "Well, one might say, "you just have to memorize the Bible." Or.......one might listen to the Holy Spirit. He is always present.

 

[Elliewaves]

Say no and don't do it. Who does she want you to lie to? Tell her that if she wants to lie to someone she can deal with her problems herself and not involve you.

 

[LoricaLady]

Honoring your Heavenly Father trumps honoring your mother. He syas not to lie. (Now statistics show all people like somewhat, usually for social reasons, not necessarily to hurt anyone. However, serious lying ain't good.) If you becocme an enabler to any lying from your mother you are not honoring her. The Savior said a man is to leave hiis mother and a woman to leave her home when married.. Your mother must recognize that you are an adult now and that she should not try to make your decisions for you.

 

[paul1149]

But Peter and the apostles answered, “We must obey God rather than men. -Acts 5:29​

 

[Beautyinsteadofashes]

Say no and don't do it. Who does she want you to lie to? Tell her that if she wants to lie to someone she can deal with her problems herself and not involve you.

She wants me to lie to my friend.

 

[longwait]

The bible says to honor your mother and father. It also says thou shalt not lie. What if your mother tells you to lie?

My mom tells me to lie about some things sometimes..i feel bad doing it but sometimes i just do it because shes my mother and i want to obey her because i feel like obeying her is right thing in Gods eyes...but i know what you mean and understand you..

Give priority to what God says first. If God says don't lie then you should try your best not to do it. Sometimes what our parents say or do is not the right thing. Nevertheless you should still respect and honour your parents. But that does not mean you should participate in the wicked things they do. In the end it will back fire on you.

 

[Kit Sigmon]

Beautyinsteadofashes, your bio shows that you're 29,
other threads revealed that you work a job and that you be
a mom to a toddler girl and you have an older child that's a boy
and you're in a relationship...plus college?

Is your mom taking care of your children while you work?
and does she want you to do whatever she says because she's providing
you and your children a home and taking care of them while you work/
and attend college?
Are you and the children at risk of being made to move out if you don't
do what your mom says?

 

[Elliewaves]

I don't think it's "honoring" your mother to lie if she tells you to lie. If you are dependent on her; then it does make things a little messy and complicated, but perhaps standing up for the right thing and refusing to be pushed around will set a new precedent for her in how to treat you. Setting a boundary as an adult child with follow through can be a good thing for you.

 

[lastofall]

[for me anyway] when we are wronged, we should forgive and take the wrong, regardless who it is that wronged us: for we are most like God when we are forgiving and merciful, knowing that He is willing to be merciful and forgive us, though we are deserving of nothing. As for when one sins against us over and over again:

"Then came Peter to him, and said, Lord, how oft shall my brother sin against me, and I forgive him? till seven times? Jesus saith unto him, I say not unto thee, Until seven times: but, Until seventy times seven." (Matthew 18:21-22)

"Take heed to yourselves: If thy brother trespass against thee, rebuke him; and if he repent, forgive him. And if he trespass against thee seven times in a day, and seven times in a day turn again to thee, saying, I repent; thou shalt forgive him." (Luke 17:3-4)

And if we still don't get it...

"For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you: But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses." (Matthew 6:14-15)

 

[Beautyinsteadofashes]

Beautyinsteadofashes, your bio shows that you're 29,
other threads revealed that you work a job and that you be
a mom to a toddler girl and you have an older child that's a boy
and you're in a relationship...plus college?

Is your mom taking care of your children while you work?
and does she want you to do whatever she says because she's providing
you and your children a home and taking care of them while you work/
and attend college?
Are you and the children at risk of being made to move out if you don't
do what your mom says?

No I live in my own apartment. My mom does babysit every now and again but not regularly. Also I made a mistake on the year of my birth when creating my profile so I am about to turn 29. Not 30! Nor yet!
My mom does want me to so things her way though and has said " the bible say honor your mother?" I think to her that means "obey your mother no matter what!"

 

[GandalfTheWise]

The bible says to honor your mother and father. It also says thou shalt not lie. What if your mother tells you to lie?

I'd add this passage into the mix pointing out that parents have an obligation as well.

Children, obey your parents in the Lord, for this is right. 2 “Honor your father and mother”—which is the first commandment with a promise— 3 “so that it may go well with you and that you may enjoy long life on the earth.” 4 Fathers, do not exasperate your children; instead, bring them up in the training and instruction of the Lord. Ephesians 6:1-4 NIV

One of the difficult things in life is learning the appropriate boundaries with our parents (and our own children) as we grow older. As we move from childhood to adolescence to adulthood, our relationship with our parents should change if we are to be healthy people. We are changing as we mature; our relationships with others will change. It does not mean we leave those relationships or forsake those relationships; it means that those relationships must grow and change as the people in them grow and change. (Aside: I think this is why many marriages end. People fail to keep the relationship healthy as both partners change over time.) To have a healthy relationship with our parents means that both they and us must slowly change the parameters and boundaries in the relationship over time.

The problem is when some aspects of the parent/child relationship freeze and don't change. What was fine when you were five years old is not fine when you are twenty five years old. When our kids were little, I expected them to do what I said for their safety, healthy, and eventual growth into good people. Now that they are in the 20s and 30s, I let them make their own decisions, give advice (which they often ask for), and help them when I can. They are starting to do likewise for us. Now, it took some time for me to set boundaries with my mother. A lot of my childhood and adolescence was spent just doing what she wanted to keep the peace in the house. When I was an adult and married, that was no longer healthy. I finally just set boundaries and did not always do what she wanted and just dealt with the fallout. After the first few times, the fallout started to disappear. I had successfully redefined some of the boundaries.

Now, with regard to lying and truth telling, the main principle I apply is whether it will build or destroy trust. The key issue I see is when it costs you trust in someone's eyes. "Lying" to someone to set up a surprise birthday party will usually result in a few laughs and no lost of trust. (Indeed in our family we end up laughing over the convoluted ways we managed to mislead without telling an out and out lie.) Lying to someone to take advantage of them or doing something that they will not like if they found out about it burns up hard earned trust. If and when the person being lied to finds out about it, what will be the consequence? Is this a non-issue that they really don't care about? Or is it something where there might be some degree of hurt?

I think that as Christians, we need to do what we can so that people will have trust and confidence both in what we say and do. There are times we will have very important things to say to people. We set those important things up by our truthfulness and manner of behavior before we say those things. If we get caught in too many lies, omissions, misdirections, etc., we lose the ability to be able to say some things to some people.

 

[paul1149]

The bible says to honor your mother and father. It also says thou shalt not lie. What if your mother tells you to lie?

There are competing principles in the Bible, and when that happens wisdom is called for. The hall of faith in Heb. 11 has a couple of examples of people who lied in order to do God's will. The Egyptian midwives at the very least stretched the truth in order to protect Hebrew babies. Rahab lied in order to protect the Hebrew spies. In the Bible we also have Jael deceiving Israel's enemy Sisera in order to kill him. Extra-Biblical examples would include Corrie ten Boom lying in order to protect the Jews from the Nazis.

But those are the exceptions that prove the rule. Col 3.9 has:

Do not lie to one another, seeing that you have put off the old self with its practices
​

Clearly there the cause for the unacceptable lying is the carnality attached to the old man. It's saying do not lie for selfish reasons. The exceptions above are celebrated because they were done for a noble purpose.

Ephesians also confirms Colossians:

to put off your old self, which belongs to your former manner of life and is corrupt through deceitful desires,
and to be renewed in the spirit of your minds,
and to put on the new self, created after the likeness of God in true righteousness and holiness.
Therefore, having put away falsehood, let each one of you speak the truth with his neighbor, for we are members one of another. -Eph 4:22-25​

And all this hearkens back, and gives the full meaning, to Leviticus:

“You shall not steal; you shall not deal falsely; you shall not lie to one another. -Lev 19:11​

So we have to judge each situation accordingly. But if it comes down to the choice to obey God or man, God wins. Jesus said:

“If anyone comes to me and does not hate his own father and mother and wife and children and brothers and sisters, yes, and even his own life, he cannot be my disciple. -Luke 14:26​

So clearly there are limits to the obedience we give man, even parents.

 

[tulipbee]

lying is like a domino effect. you lie leads to an effect. that effect causes another effect. few years later, the effect causes something bad or good. God arranges circumstances. he can lead you to do something to bill and 10 years later, God got the results he wanted without affecting bill's natural free will.
if the effect is bad then you have a need for Jesus. God may have made your mother do things just to get you to recognize a deep need for Jesus. your recognized event saved you. perhaps your mother saved you in very odd ways. you should thank her and love her. be sure to feed her and hug her

 

[ValleyGal]

OP, the Bible says "children" are to obey their parents. You are not a child. Honoring your mother does not include participating in her sin. Honoring her would be directing her to a righteous path. As a previous poster said, you need to learn new boundaries with her - do not allow her to treat you like a child anymore. You can say no, and that would honor her more than participating in her sin. For more on boundaries, check out the book "Boundaries" by Cloud and Townsend.

The Bible tells the story of Rahab (iirc)... she was a prostitute who had lied about the Israelite spies. This is a lie, but God spared her life and the people she loved, when it came time to hand the land over to Israel. This kind of lie - one that would further God's purpose - would probably be one you could get away with. But the lie your mom wants you to tell has nothing to do with God's purpose. The question for you to think about, then, is "what's the point of lying; why not just tell the truth?"