Ellen said all scripture must be tested against God’s Word. You really don’t need to attack every SDA on here. I love keeping God’s Sabbath and I get my doctrine from the Word of God, His Holy Bible. I’m not going to debate you because its not fruitful. I wish you well. God bless.
That statement is just simply has no truth in it. I have not read everyone of her books. I spend my time in the bible yet I can prove to you from scripture in both the old and new testament that everything that has been shared with you here is indeed biblical and true. What is it you want to discuss with me from the scriptures?
Dear The Liturgist
I know you posted two months ago already, but I want to comment anyway. I had a complete list of all the accusations made against her writings with all the answers that explained those apparent contradictions and I've been looking for it, but I can't find it. I wanted to give it to you.
Besides that list, there was one other thing that helped me to believe that she was inspired by God. When I was 10 years old I had a dream. I dreamt that I was walking with my school teacher towards a famous park which everyone was talking about. We wanted to see it too. The park had a very high white wall all around it, and a large entrance gate, with two guards who greeted us. They said, "You may only enter if you drink this cup". So they handed us each a white cup. As I looked inside my cup I frowned because there was a tiny dead lamb floating in water. I looked at the park through the gates and saw people walking in there and it looked so amazing. I really wanted to be in that park, so I thought, "Let me just take a tiny sip, maybe it's not so bad." When I tasted the water, I was surprised, because it tasted very bitter.
For years I wondered why it tasted bitter. The rest of the dream I could understand: that we need to accept Jesus who died for us into our being to enter heaven, but the bitterness I just couldn't understand. 13 years later, I was going through a personal struggle about Ellen White. I was reading her books and I loved what I read. It made me feel closer to God, but I was confused because I wanted to know for sure that she was inspired by God. I was reading one chapter per day, from Patriarchs and Prophets, and I had just finished reading chapter 23. This question about her being inspired was pressing on me that night, so I went and sat outside under the stars and prayed about it. Then suddenly, as I was talking to God, the dream I had when I was 10 years old popped into my head. I smiled and said to God, "I remember that dream, but I still don't know why the water tasted bitter."
The next morning I woke up and started reading chapter 24, The Passover. As I was reading I suddenly jumped up, all excited, because God had just interpreted the meaning of the bitterness in my dream which He reminded me of the night before, because He knew that I would find the answer in her book. If He hadn't reminded me of the dream I would have overlooked it. She wrote about what the Israelites had to do during the Passover:
"The lamb was to be prepared whole, not a bone of it being broken: so not a bone was to be broken of the Lamb of God, who was to die for us. John 19:36. Thus was also represented the completeness of Christ's sacrifice. PP 277.3
The flesh was to be eaten. It is not enough even that we believe on Christ for the forgiveness of sin; we must by faith be constantly receiving spiritual strength and nourishment from Him through His word. Said Christ, “Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink His blood, ye have no life in you. Whoso eateth My flesh, and drinketh My blood, hath eternal life.” John 6:54, 54. And to explain His meaning He said, “The words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.” Verse 63. Jesus accepted His Father's law, wrought out its principles in His life, manifested its spirit, and showed its beneficent power in the heart. Says John, “The Word was made flesh and dwelt among us, (and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.” John 1:14. The followers of Christ must be partakers of His experience. They must receive and assimilate the word of God so that it shall become the motive power of life and action. By the power of Christ they must be changed into His likeness, and reflect the divine attributes. They must eat the flesh and drink the blood of the Son of God, or there is no life in them. The spirit and work of Christ must become the spirit and work of His disciples.
The lamb was to be eaten with bitter herbs, as pointing back to the bitterness of the bondage in Egypt. So when we feed upon Christ, it should be with contrition of heart, because of our sins.”
Since I personally asked God whether she was inspired by Him, and He brought the dream from 13 years ago to my remembrance so that I would find the interpretation of it in her book I was convinced that God inspired her writings. That, and of course that list that helped me to feel settled about all the accusations.
That is my personal testimony on this issue.
Dear The Liturgist
I know you posted two months ago already, but I want to comment anyway. I had a complete list of all the accusations made against her writings with all the answers that explained those apparent contradictions and I've been looking for it, but I can't find it. I wanted to give it to you.
Besides that list, there was one other thing that helped me to believe that she was inspired by God. When I was 10 years old I had a dream. I dreamt that I was walking with my school teacher towards a famous park which everyone was talking about. We wanted to see it too. The park had a very high white wall all around it, and a large entrance gate, with two guards who greeted us. They said, "You may only enter if you drink this cup". So they handed us each a white cup. As I looked inside my cup I frowned because there was a tiny dead lamb floating in water. I looked at the park through the gates and saw people walking in there and it looked so amazing. I really wanted to be in that park, so I thought, "Let me just take a tiny sip, maybe it's not so bad." When I tasted the water, I was surprised, because it tasted very bitter.
For years I wondered why it tasted bitter. The rest of the dream I could understand: that we need to accept Jesus who died for us into our being to enter heaven, but the bitterness I just couldn't understand. 13 years later, I was going through a personal struggle about Ellen White. I was reading her books and I loved what I read. It made me feel closer to God, but I was confused because I wanted to know for sure that she was inspired by God. I was reading one chapter per day, from Patriarchs and Prophets, and I had just finished reading chapter 23. This question about her being inspired was pressing on me that night, so I went and sat outside under the stars and prayed about it. Then suddenly, as I was talking to God, the dream I had when I was 10 years old popped into my head. I smiled and said to God, "I remember that dream, but I still don't know why the water tasted bitter."
The next morning I woke up and started reading chapter 24, The Passover. As I was reading I suddenly jumped up, all excited, because God had just interpreted the meaning of the bitterness in my dream which He reminded me of the night before, because He knew that I would find the answer in her book. If He hadn't reminded me of the dream I would have overlooked it. She wrote about what the Israelites had to do during the Passover:
"The lamb was to be prepared whole, not a bone of it being broken: so not a bone was to be broken of the Lamb of God, who was to die for us. John 19:36. Thus was also represented the completeness of Christ's sacrifice. PP 277.3
The flesh was to be eaten. It is not enough even that we believe on Christ for the forgiveness of sin; we must by faith be constantly receiving spiritual strength and nourishment from Him through His word. Said Christ, “Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink His blood, ye have no life in you. Whoso eateth My flesh, and drinketh My blood, hath eternal life.” John 6:54, 54. And to explain His meaning He said, “The words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.” Verse 63. Jesus accepted His Father's law, wrought out its principles in His life, manifested its spirit, and showed its beneficent power in the heart. Says John, “The Word was made flesh and dwelt among us, (and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.” John 1:14. The followers of Christ must be partakers of His experience. They must receive and assimilate the word of God so that it shall become the motive power of life and action. By the power of Christ they must be changed into His likeness, and reflect the divine attributes. They must eat the flesh and drink the blood of the Son of God, or there is no life in them. The spirit and work of Christ must become the spirit and work of His disciples.
The lamb was to be eaten with bitter herbs, as pointing back to the bitterness of the bondage in Egypt. So when we feed upon Christ, it should be with contrition of heart, because of our sins.”
Since I personally asked God whether she was inspired by Him, and He brought the dream from 13 years before to my remembrance so that I would find the interpretation of it in her book I was convinced that God inspired her writings. That, and of course that list that helped me to feel settled about all the accusations.
That is my personal testimony on this issue.
Welcome Love Others and Happy Sabbath! Thanks for sharing and hope the posters at CF offer you a warm welcome. God blessDear The Liturgist
I know you posted two months ago already, but I want to comment anyway. I had a complete list of all the accusations made against her writings with all the answers that explained those apparent contradictions and I've been looking for it, but I can't find it. I wanted to give it to you.
Besides that list, there was one other thing that helped me to believe that she was inspired by God. When I was 10 years old I had a dream. I dreamt that I was walking with my school teacher towards a famous park which everyone was talking about. We wanted to see it too. The park had a very high white wall all around it, and a large entrance gate, with two guards who greeted us. They said, "You may only enter if you drink this cup". So they handed us each a white cup. As I looked inside my cup I frowned because there was a tiny dead lamb floating in water. I looked at the park through the gates and saw people walking in there and it looked so amazing. I really wanted to be in that park, so I thought, "Let me just take a tiny sip, maybe it's not so bad." When I tasted the water, I was surprised, because it tasted very bitter.
For years I wondered why it tasted bitter. The rest of the dream I could understand: that we need to accept Jesus who died for us into our being to enter heaven, but the bitterness I just couldn't understand. 13 years later, I was going through a personal struggle about Ellen White. I was reading her books and I loved what I read. It made me feel closer to God, but I was confused because I wanted to know for sure that she was inspired by God. I was reading one chapter per day, from Patriarchs and Prophets, and I had just finished reading chapter 23. This question about her being inspired was pressing on me that night, so I went and sat outside under the stars and prayed about it. Then suddenly, as I was talking to God, the dream I had when I was 10 years old popped into my head. I smiled and said to God, "I remember that dream, but I still don't know why the water tasted bitter."
The next morning I woke up and started reading chapter 24, The Passover. As I was reading I suddenly jumped up, all excited, because God had just interpreted the meaning of the bitterness in my dream which He reminded me of the night before, because He knew that I would find the answer in her book. If He hadn't reminded me of the dream I would have overlooked it. She wrote about what the Israelites had to do during the Passover:
"The lamb was to be prepared whole, not a bone of it being broken: so not a bone was to be broken of the Lamb of God, who was to die for us. John 19:36. Thus was also represented the completeness of Christ's sacrifice. PP 277.3
The flesh was to be eaten. It is not enough even that we believe on Christ for the forgiveness of sin; we must by faith be constantly receiving spiritual strength and nourishment from Him through His word. Said Christ, “Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink His blood, ye have no life in you. Whoso eateth My flesh, and drinketh My blood, hath eternal life.” John 6:54, 54. And to explain His meaning He said, “The words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.” Verse 63. Jesus accepted His Father's law, wrought out its principles in His life, manifested its spirit, and showed its beneficent power in the heart. Says John, “The Word was made flesh and dwelt among us, (and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.” John 1:14. The followers of Christ must be partakers of His experience. They must receive and assimilate the word of God so that it shall become the motive power of life and action. By the power of Christ they must be changed into His likeness, and reflect the divine attributes. They must eat the flesh and drink the blood of the Son of God, or there is no life in them. The spirit and work of Christ must become the spirit and work of His disciples.
The lamb was to be eaten with bitter herbs, as pointing back to the bitterness of the bondage in Egypt. So when we feed upon Christ, it should be with contrition of heart, because of our sins.”
Since I personally asked God whether she was inspired by Him, and He brought the dream from 13 years before to my remembrance so that I would find the interpretation of it in her book I was convinced that God inspired her writings. That, and of course that list that helped me to feel settled about all the accusations.
That is my personal testimony on this issue.
Dear The Liturgist
I know you posted two months ago already, but I want to comment anyway. I had a complete list of all the accusations made against her writings with all the answers that explained those apparent contradictions and I've been looking for it, but I can't find it. I wanted to give it to you.
Besides that list, there was one other thing that helped me to believe that she was inspired by God. When I was 10 years old I had a dream. I dreamt that I was walking with my school teacher towards a famous park which everyone was talking about. We wanted to see it too. The park had a very high white wall all around it, and a large entrance gate, with two guards who greeted us. They said, "You may only enter if you drink this cup". So they handed us each a white cup. As I looked inside my cup I frowned because there was a tiny dead lamb floating in water. I looked at the park through the gates and saw people walking in there and it looked so amazing. I really wanted to be in that park, so I thought, "Let me just take a tiny sip, maybe it's not so bad." When I tasted the water, I was surprised, because it tasted very bitter.
For years I wondered why it tasted bitter. The rest of the dream I could understand: that we need to accept Jesus who died for us into our being to enter heaven, but the bitterness I just couldn't understand. 13 years later, I was going through a personal struggle about Ellen White. I was reading her books and I loved what I read. It made me feel closer to God, but I was confused because I wanted to know for sure that she was inspired by God. I was reading one chapter per day, from Patriarchs and Prophets, and I had just finished reading chapter 23. This question about her being inspired was pressing on me that night, so I went and sat outside under the stars and prayed about it. Then suddenly, as I was talking to God, the dream I had when I was 10 years old popped into my head. I smiled and said to God, "I remember that dream, but I still don't know why the water tasted bitter."
The next morning I woke up and started reading chapter 24, The Passover. As I was reading I suddenly jumped up, all excited, because God had just interpreted the meaning of the bitterness in my dream which He reminded me of the night before, because He knew that I would find the answer in her book. If He hadn't reminded me of the dream I would have overlooked it. She wrote about what the Israelites had to do during the Passover:
"The lamb was to be prepared whole, not a bone of it being broken: so not a bone was to be broken of the Lamb of God, who was to die for us. John 19:36. Thus was also represented the completeness of Christ's sacrifice. PP 277.3
The flesh was to be eaten. It is not enough even that we believe on Christ for the forgiveness of sin; we must by faith be constantly receiving spiritual strength and nourishment from Him through His word. Said Christ, “Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink His blood, ye have no life in you. Whoso eateth My flesh, and drinketh My blood, hath eternal life.” John 6:54, 54. And to explain His meaning He said, “The words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.” Verse 63. Jesus accepted His Father's law, wrought out its principles in His life, manifested its spirit, and showed its beneficent power in the heart. Says John, “The Word was made flesh and dwelt among us, (and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.” John 1:14. The followers of Christ must be partakers of His experience. They must receive and assimilate the word of God so that it shall become the motive power of life and action. By the power of Christ they must be changed into His likeness, and reflect the divine attributes. They must eat the flesh and drink the blood of the Son of God, or there is no life in them. The spirit and work of Christ must become the spirit and work of His disciples.
The lamb was to be eaten with bitter herbs, as pointing back to the bitterness of the bondage in Egypt. So when we feed upon Christ, it should be with contrition of heart, because of our sins.”
Since I personally asked God whether she was inspired by Him, and He brought the dream from 13 years before to my remembrance so that I would find the interpretation of it in her book I was convinced that God inspired her writings. That, and of course that list that helped me to feel settled about all the accusations.
That is my personal testimony on this issue.
None of which are saying what your claiming here that the SDA Church was started because of the dreams of EGW right? You do know that the context to those quotes are from 1844 not 1863 when the SDA church was started right? Your spreading misinformation.
