Question about the flood

[Aman777]

1Co 2:14 The person without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God but considers them foolishness, and cannot understand them because they are discerned only through the Spirit.

Ever considered that that might apply to you?

No, since I have been born again Spiritually AND I understand Genesis and no person here has refuted me (proven me wrong) in any way, yet. Want to try?

People have refuted your "theology" scripturally, scientifically and historically since the first time you posted it and every time you've posted it since.

False accusation backed by nothing but a personal opinion, until or unless you post evidence showing that I have been refuted. Ask for help from the other unbelievers here who also falsely accuse me with NO support for their falsehoods. Perhaps someone here can do a search and refute me, but I doubt it. Until they do, I will continue to embarrass atheists agnostics and phonies by posting God's Truth. God Bless you

 

[Jimmy D]

No, since I have been born again Spiritually AND I understand Genesis and no person here has refuted me (proven me wrong) in any way, yet. Want to try?

I'm reluctant to discuss anything with someone so close-minded. Would anything anyone says make you change your mind?

False accusation backed by nothing but a personal opinion, until or unless you post evidence showing that I have been refuted. Ask for help from the other unbelievers here who also falsely accuse me with NO support for their falsehoods. Perhaps someone here can do a search and refute me, but I doubt it. Until they do, I will continue to embarrass atheists agnostics and phonies by posting God's Truth. God Bless yo

You seem to believe that you're some sort of prophet who's unlocked the secrets of Genesis, I wonder when you first figured out these secret messages?

 

[joshua 1 9]

How do you know that the original Hebrew Old Testament is the word of God?

The Oral tradition of Kabbalah is used to study the Hebrew language that Moses used to write the first five books in the Bible. God gave Moses all of His plan and nothing has been added to what Moses wrote.

We know the Bible is true because of the Scientific Method that can be used to verify that the Bible is 100% accurate and true. I have spent years on this board and never once has anyone ever been able to falsify anything in the Bible the Written Word of God.

There is a story that a Grandmother died and the family went in to settle the estate and they found her Bible. Next to many of the passages in her bible they saw three letters: TTT. They wondered about this and they discovered that TTT means Tested, Tried and found to be True. We have a covenant relationship with God and we know that if we do our part God will do His part. As my wife says: "do your best and God will do the rest". As a young Christian it is difficult to trust in God. You just do not know if trusting in God is going to work. As we grow and mature we learn more and more all the advantages of living the Life that God is calling us to live.

I do not trust any of the translations unless they come from Jesus. For example Moses said: "Love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength." Deu 6:5. Jesus said: Mark 12:30 "you shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength." Today we would not be able to add a word like that, but Jesus was able to. The Hebrew did not distinguish between the heart and the mind the way we do today.

 

[Wakalix]

The Oral tradition of Kabbalah is used to study the Hebrew language that Moses used to write the first five books in the Bible. God gave Moses all of His plan and nothing has been added to what Moses wrote.

Okay, but how do you know that Kabbalah is a truth-preserving process (one that always outputs truth when truth is inputted)?

We know the Bible is true because of the Scientific Method that can be used to verify that the Bible is 100% accurate and true. I have spent years on this board and never once has anyone ever been able to falsify anything in the Bible the Written Word of God.

You're just saying that! But fine, I'll accept the burden of disproof (though I am not obligated to do so). The census just before Jesus's birth does not match well with historical evidence, and the "return to your ancestor's town" seems like a derived explanation for why the prophecy says that the Messiah will be born in Bethlehem, but Jesus grew up in Nazareth. "According to Dever, the scholarly consensus is that the figure of Moses is legendary, and not historical." (William G. Dever 'What Remains of the House That Albright Built?,' in George Ernest Wright, Frank Moore Cross, Edward Fay Campbell, Floyd Vivian Filson (eds.) The Biblical Archaeologist, American Schools of Oriental Research, Scholars Press, Vol. 56, No 1, 2 March 1993 pp.25-35, p.33: 'the overwhelming scholarly consensus today is that Moses is a mythical figure.')

There is a story that a Grandmother died and the family went in to settle the estate and they found her Bible. Next to many of the passages in her bible they saw three letters: TTT. They wondered about this and they discovered that TTT means Tested, Tried and found to be True.

There is a story where combining the three Deathly Hallows gives you power over death.

We have a covenant relationship with God and we know that if we do our part God will do His part. As my wife says: "do your best and God will do the rest".

How do you know that?

As a young Christian it is difficult to trust in God. You just do not know if trusting in God is going to work. As we grow and mature we learn more and more all the advantages of living the Life that God is calling us to live.

What advantages? You are just saying "it's great, it's the best." How is it so great?

I do not trust any of the translations unless they come from Jesus.

As far as I know, Jesus never worked as a translator!

For example Moses said: "Love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength." Deu 6:5. Jesus said: Mark 12:30 "you shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength." Today we would not be able to add a word like that, but Jesus was able to. The Hebrew did not distinguish between the heart and the mind the way we do today.

So you're saying that mistranslations never occur, or re-interpretations that subtly change the meaning of a phrase? Interesting. How do you know this?

 

[Aman777]

I'm reluctant to discuss anything with someone so close-minded. Would anything anyone says make you change your mind?

You seem to believe that you're some sort of prophet who's unlocked the secrets of Genesis, I wonder when you first figured out these secret messages?

As my name states, i am but A man. I'm not a prophet nor a priest but just a man who has read and studied Genesis since the mid 70s. I also have been online for about 20 years trying to get others to read Genesis for what it actually says, instead of what they have been told it says.

Genesis chapter one is the ENTIRE History of God's 6 Days/Ages of creation, including events which are future to our time. Genesis 1:28-31 is PROPHECY of events which happen AFTER Jesus returns to this planet. The first 3 verses of Genesis two speak of a 7th Day when God rests from ALL of His work of Creating. Since the 7th Day has no end and no beginning, it is revealed as Eternity.

This means that the ENTIRE History of God's 7 Day/Age creation of the perfect 3rd Heaven is told in the FIRST 34 verses of Genesis. EVERY other verse from Gen 2:4 to the end of Revelation refers back to one of God's 7 Days of Creation and adds details to the Outline. Now that you know the secret to understanding the ENTIRE Bible, you can know as much as I do. God bless you in your study.

 

[Wakalix]

1Co 2:14 The person without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God but considers them foolishness, and cannot understand them because they are discerned only through the Spirit.

Stop saying that!

Then it should easy for you to refute it Scripturally, Scientifically and Historically.

No, it's not easy! You've developed an unrefutable self-supporting belief system, and founded your entire sense of worth on said system. It's nearly impossible to recover from that kind of state.

I see nothing but your insistence that you know more than God.

If God doesn't exist, that's not too difficult a feat!

Just as you were born into this world, you MUST be born again Spiritually IF you wish to understand God's Holy Word and enter the next world. It's YOUR choice. God Bless you

I still don't see any reason to think this.

 

[Wakalix]

If you don't like the way I post, it's nothing more than a mental diversion from the FACT that you cannot challenge me scientifically, historically or Scripturally.

That's not a sign of truth! You have developed a belief system that is irrefutable through untestability. This does not mean that the belief system is true.

Your false assumption that I think Science is wrong is ridiculous since I support what I post with Scientific facts, which you have failed to refute. Perhaps you could go to the Evol Bible found in Talk Origins and find help. I've also refuted their foolishness, but they are too ignorant to understand. Amen?

No, you don't. You try to warp science to fit it to your prior beliefs. That is not how science works.

 

[Aman777]

Stop saying that!

Why? Is it like pouring holy water on a Vampire?

 

[Aman777]

That's not a sign of truth! You have developed a belief system that is irrefutable through untestability. This does not mean that the belief system is true.

No, you don't. You try to warp science to fit it to your prior beliefs. That is not how science works.

Science works by assuming Theories based on facts. A good example is the False Assumption that Humans evolved from Apes. When you show scientists that their False Theory is incomplete, untrue and can never tell us of our true beginnings, they call you names and imply that you're nuts. Then they run away because down deep in their hearts, they know that their "truth" is but a half truth. God Bless you

 

[Wakalix]

Why?

It's rather annoying. We know that you think that. Telling us the same thing five times won't make us understand/believe you any more than just saying it once.

Is it like pouring holy water on a Vampire?

"Being annoyed means that you are evil and wrong." Heh. I'm not sure it's possible to make a worse argument than that.

 

[Wakalix]

Science works by assuming Theories based on facts.

No. Religion works by assuming mystical nonsense based on feelings.

A good example is the False Assumption that Humans evolved from Apes.

A good example is the False Assumption that God exists.

When you show scientists that their False Theory is incomplete, untrue and can never tell us of our true beginnings, they call you names and imply that you're nuts.

When you show religious people that their False Beliefs are inconsistent, untrue, and completely useless, they call you names and imply that you're evil.

Then they run away because down deep in their hearts, they know that their "truth" is but a half truth. God Bless you

Then they run away because deep down in their hearts, they know that they're just deluding themselves. May your knowledge increase without end.

I have demonstrated that the same argument can easily be made for each side; thus, the argument is not useful.

 

[Aman777]

No. Religion works by assuming mystical nonsense based on feelings.

A good example is the False Assumption that God exists.

When you show religious people that their False Beliefs are inconsistent, untrue, and completely useless, they call you names and imply that you're evil.

Then they run away because deep down in their hearts, they know that they're just deluding themselves. May your knowledge increase without end.

I have demonstrated that the same argument can easily be made for each side; thus, the argument is not useful.

Thanks for your unsupported and unsupportable opinion. That and a $1 might get you a cup of coffee at McDs. As for me, I think I will stick with the AGREEMENT of Scripture science and history. God Bless you

 

[Wakalix]

Thanks for your unsupported and unsupportable opinion.

Likewise.

As for me, I think I will stick with the AGREEMENT of Scripture science and history. God Bless you

As for me, I think I will stick with the AGREEMENT of actual science and history. May your knowledge increase without end.

 

[AV1611VET]

As for me, I think I will stick with the AGREEMENT of actual science and history.

You do that.

As for us, we have martyrs who died refusing to believe what you educatees are trying to get us to believe.

And God says of them:

Hebrews 11:38a ( Of whom the world was not worthy: )

 

[Wakalix]

You do that.

As for us, we have martyrs who died refusing to believe what you educatees are trying to get us to believe.

And God says of them:

Hebrews 11:38a ( Of whom the world was not worthy: )

So if someone dies to avoid believing something, that thing is incorrect? Fascinating. On another topic, have you heard of "nine eleven"? I believe the relevant terrorists, among other reasons, were responding to Westernization of their culture. Does this mean that Western culture is incorrect?

 

[AV1611VET]

On another topic, have you heard of "nine eleven"? I believe the relevant terrorists, among other reasons, were responding to Westernization of their culture.

There you go: calling them "terrorists."

I prefer to call them "fundamentalists," but that's my prerogative.

Does this mean that Western culture is incorrect?

Why don't you ask those who danced in the streets when 'nine eleven' went down on their 'Great Satan'?

 

[Subduction Zone]

You do that.

As for us, we have martyrs who died refusing to believe what you educatees are trying to get us to believe.

And God says of them:

Hebrews 11:38a ( Of whom the world was not worthy: )

All religions have martyrs. And the tales of martyrs for Christianity are often exaggerated. Some Christians (cough cough) conflate people that are victims of religious persecution, again something common to all religions, with being martyrs.

By your standards AV Buddhism is just as valid or Christianity or more so.

 

[AV1611VET]

By your standards AV Buddhism is just as valid or Christianity or more so.

By 'my standards' [sic] then, is Christianity an example of diabolical plagiarism?

 

[Subduction Zone]

By 'my standards' [sic] then, is Christianity an example of diabolical plagiarism?

You do not appear to know when to use [sic], where was my misspelling? And though there is obvious plagiarism in the Bible, but I would not call it "diabolical".

 

[Wakalix]

There you go: calling them "terrorists."

I prefer to call them "fundamentalists," but that's my prerogative.

They are both. They committed an act of terror, in large part due to their fundamentalism.

Why don't you ask those who danced in the streets when 'nine eleven' went down on their 'Great Satan'?

Stop evading. You are being inconsistent when you claim that property X of Christianity proves its truth, while the same property X, when considered as part of a different religion, proves its untruth.