Question about the flood

[GatodeQ]

What was the purpose of saving the animals?

 

[Strathos]

No animals, no food or beasts of burden. Besides, they didn't do anything wrong.

Of course while I believe the flood narrative to have been based on a real event I see most of it as being allegorical.

 

[Bible Highlighter]

What was the purpose of saving the animals?

Besides animals being food for us, they also can make great pets;
Animals can also teach us things, too.

“Go to the ant, you sluggard! Consider her ways and be wise” (Proverbs 6:6).

Also, God cares for the animals.

"Are not two sparrows sold for a penny? Yet not one of them will fall to the ground apart from the will of your Father." (Matthew 10:29).

"So do not be afraid; you are worth more than many sparrows." (Matthew 10:31).


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[Subduction Zone]

What was the purpose of saving the animals?

There was no flood. That is the simplest answer. It is a morality tale at best.

 

[Bible Highlighter]

Questions like this should be asked in the Christians section only. Atheists have no understanding of what the Bible says and they should not involve themselves in answering such questions; For one, they are unqualified. Two, they are primarily seeking to mock God's Word (Which really is not helpful for the person who is truly seeking the truth within the Scriptures).


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[GatodeQ]

I feel like I'm under fire here... these forums are a really scary place to ask questions!

But this is probably my fault. My question might not have been clear enough. So I'll give it another try:

What my Question is: God asked Noah to build an ark to save the animals. The animals were his own creation. He could have re-created them after the flood.

Therefore, what was the purpose of saving the animals?
Or, in other words, why go through all the trouble?

What the Question is not:
a) do you believe in God
b) do you believe the Bible
c) do you believe the event of the flood

Thank you for not shooting me on site and for not judging me.
Lets treat one another as brothers.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Questions like this should be asked in the Christians section only. Atheists have no understanding of what the Bible says and they should not involve themselves in answering such questions; For one, they are unqualified. Two, they are primarily seeking to mock God's Word (Which really is not helpful for the person who is truly seeking the truth within the Scriptures).


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GadtodeQ is an atheist and can't ask in that part of this forum. And please, on average atheists have a better understanding off the Bible than the average Christian. That is often why they are atheists in the first place. And no, there is no reason at all that you can claim that atheists are "unqualified". Third the Bible is not "God's Word". That is in fact a rather blasphemous statement considering the countless errors in the Bible.

 

[Herman Hedning]

What was the purpose of saving the animals?

An important reason apparently was to have animals to sacrifice to God as burnt offerings after all other living things had been wiped out.

 

[AV1611VET]

What was the purpose of saving the animals?

To repopulate the earth after the Flood.

 

[Bible Highlighter]

GadtodeQ is an atheist and can't ask in that part of this forum. And please, on average atheists have a better understanding off the Bible than the average Christian. That is often why they are atheists in the first place. And no, there is no reason at all that you can claim that atheists are "unqualified". Third the Bible is not "God's Word". That is in fact a rather blasphemous statement considering the countless errors in the Bible.

Nobody goes to a doctor to get their car fixed. So no. You are wrong. You have to have faith and believe in the Scriptures in order to get understanding from the Lord. It is a spiritual book that is spiritually discerned.


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[Subduction Zone]

Nobody goes to a doctor to get their car fixed. So no. You are wrong. You have to have faith and believe in the Scriptures in order to get understanding from the Lord. It is a spiritual book that is spiritually discerned.


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That is a major non sequitur on your part. And no, it makes no sense at all that one has to believe a myth to understand a myth. If your God is real you should be able to understand him without "faith". In fact "faith" is the worst of all reasons to believe anything. Faith will lead you to Islam or Hinduism just as it will lead you to Christianity. Faith is not a path to the truth. You are also claiming that your God is an unjust God when you do that.

But then logical thought is eliminated by the cognitive dissonance that is involved in preserving a failed belief. We know that there was no flood. And since there are other threads for this we can discuss that elsewhere.

Let's get back to the OP's question. If God is real why didn't he merely recreate the animals after the flood? No one has really offered any answer that could not have been more easily answered with God creating the animals all over again.

 

[pitabread]

What my Question is: God asked Noah to build an ark to save the animals. The animals were his own creation. He could have re-created them after the flood.

The Noah flood myth appears to be based on earlier flood stories (see the Epic of Gilgamesh for example). Ergo, it likely takes elements of those earlier tellings for its own.

 

[AV1611VET]

The Noah flood myth appears to be based on earlier flood stories (see the Epic of Gilgamesh for example). Ergo, it likely takes elements of those earlier tellings for its own.

And how did that happen, seeing as Sumeria was built by Noah's great grandson Nimrod?

 

[Subduction Zone]

And how did that happen, seeing as Sumeria was built by Noah's great grandson Nimrod?

No, the myth says that.

You have a hard time in separating reality from fantasy at times AV. You should thank the ACLU every day of your life.

 

[AV1611VET]

No, the myth says that.

Also keep in mind that Shem, Noah's son, lived right up to the time of Jacob; as an eyewitness of the Flood.

Remember my little conversation I made up?

Shem: What's this trash you wrote, Nimrod; are you okay!?
Nimrod: Don't start on me again, uncle; you've always looked down on us Hamites.
Shem: That's garbage too! You used to be a mighty hunter before the LORD, what went wrong?
Nimrod: You think you Shemites are so much better than us, just because my grandfather was cursed for what his father did to your father in that tent that day.
Shem: I watched you grow up, Nimrod, and how you used to love the LORD so much; but somewhere along the line you went astray and broke away from the rest of us and went and formed your own little empire. Well ... you do what you want, but as long as I live, I'll make sure my eyewitness testimony trumps your lies.
Nimrod: And what makes you an authority on the Flood over me?
Shem: I was there! Remember??? I was on the Ark ... you weren't!
Nimrod: Oh, that's right ... somehow I forgot ... what with there being no evidence and all.
Shem: [facepalms]

 

[Subduction Zone]

Also keep in mind that Shem, Noah's son, lived right up to the time of Jacob; as an eyewitness of the Flood.

I can see that logic still escapes you. Yes, Spiderman helped Ironman out. And they both live in New York City at times. Does that make them real?

Remember my little conversation I made up?

Shem: What's this trash you wrote, Nimrod; are you okay!?
Nimrod: Don't start on me again, uncle; you've always looked down on us Hamites.
Shem: That's garbage too! You used to be a mighty hunter before the LORD, what went wrong?
Nimrod: You think you Shemites are so much better than us, just because my grandfather was cursed for what his father did to your father in that tent that day.
Shem: I watched you grow up, Nimrod, and how you used to love the LORD so much; but somewhere along the line you went astray and broke away from the rest of us and went and formed your own little empire. Well ... you do what you want, but as long as I live, I'll make sure my eyewitness testimony trumps your lies.
Nimrod: And what makes you an authority on the Flood over me?
Shem: I was there! Remember??? I was on the Ark ... you weren't!
Nimrod: Oh, that's right ... somehow I forgot ... what with there being no evidence and all.
Shem: [facepalms]

And I can make up conversations between Captain America and Thor too.

So what is your point?

 

[AV1611VET]

So what is your point?

My point is that saying Noah's flood was based on the Epic of Gilgamesh is like saying Darwin's, The Preservation of Favoured Races was based on Mein Kampf.

 

[Subduction Zone]

My point is that saying Noah's flood was based on the Epic of Gilgamesh is like saying Darwin's, The Preservation of Favoured Races was based on Mein Kampf.

Well then you merely as much as admitted your error. In fact your error is more than doubled. First since Hitler was a Christian and he based a lot of hate on his religious beliefs it would be far more correct to try to tie Mein Kampf to the Bible. Second we know that Darwin's work predated Mein Kampf and we know that the Epic of Gilgamesh predated Genesis.

 

[AV1611VET]

First since Hitler was a Christian ...

Hitler wasn't a Christian. In fact, he was a type of the Antichrist.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Hitler wasn't a Christian. In fact, he was a type of the Antichrist.

No, he was one. He was merely not the same sort of Christian that you are. There are thousands upon thousands of variations of what a "Christian" is. He merely abused his Christian beliefs far worse than the worst of creationists here.