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He didn't become homosexual just bisexual. In order for the phobes' rationale to stand up he would have to have become fully gay as they are claiming homosexuals can become fully straight.
Still waiting for you to change![]()
You are the one who made claims that you cant back upThe only proof would to be to name each of the ~24,000 genes and their function.
How about, instead, you name the one gene you believe is the gay gene.
They're all mapped.
Should be easy for you to id only one of the almost 24,000
And even thought skin color is genetic (but not related to any specific gene) there are those who manage to hate people who have different skin color.Are you hitting on me?
The whole genetic thing is kind of a waste of time, really. In a sense we are all victims of our genes and in a sense we can determine our own future regardless of them. I don't feel like digging through my files but as I recall something along the lines of 30% of Parkinson's patients don't have the "parkinson's gene" while about 40% of people without the disease have the gene. It's all about the expression. The gene may make you more susceptible but if you eat lots of omega 3, avoid grains, turn off the tv and read, basic living right, you can avoid the disease. Also the frontal lobe's function is to overcome our paleocortex conditioning and allow us to do the thing that is harder short term but better long term. This is why left handers were able to become right handers and even decades after they abandoned the practice of making them switch and it was no longer socially taboo to be left handed, nearly all of them stayed right handed. But then there's the gene that makes you dark skinned or blue eyed and we don't seem to be able to overcome those, so there ya go.
Yes.
If we are speaking purely of genetics.
Well I for one don't have a moral problem with incest between consenting adults.
Wow you guys are the very first I've ever heard say that. The normal response is that it isn't ok because the law says so.Yep, there is no reason why incest is 'wrong'. Granted, it is gross. Ditto goes for those who wish to commit suicide.
but it isn't because they would not be forgiven if homosexuality is a sin. As I've said previously you obviously don't understand how forgiveness works and that it has conditions. Seem as you want to repeat your challenge is legit I thought I'd repeat myself as well.But the challenge is perfectly legitimate and you know it.
Just in case you missed it as another poster said there is no requirement in the bible for that.If a bunch of holier-than-thou "Christian" born straight people want to preach that homosexuals must change their sexual orientation in order to be saved, then one (or a statistical sample of about 700) needs to prove it works the other way.
and I'm still waiting for your proof that your view is correct. It seems to me that it is only smart that if there is no proof one way or the other then we must wait for more evidence.He didn't become homosexual just bisexual. In order for the phobes' rationale to stand up he would have to have become fully gay as they are claiming homosexuals can become fully straight.
Still waiting for you to change![]()
Wow you guys are the very first I've ever heard say that. The normal response is that it isn't ok because the law says so.
but it isn't because they would not be forgiven if homosexuality is a sin. As I've said previously you obviously don't understand how forgiveness works and that it has conditions. Seem as you want to repeat your challenge is legit I thought I'd repeat myself as well.
Just in case you missed it as another poster said there is no requirement in the bible for that.
and I'm still waiting for your proof that your view is correct. It seems to me that it is only smart that if there is no proof one way or the other then we must wait for more evidence.
Lame excuse #1, all sin is a willful choice. Therefore you can either be forgiven for "choosing" homosexuality OR no one can ever be forgiven ever. Nice try.
I think that doing something that you believe to be a sin, believing that you can get away with it because it will be forgiven, pretty much makes forgiveness impossible as far as many Christians are concerned.
And yet every "Christian" sins every day and continues to believe they'll be forgiven for it. Imagine that. Exact same thing.
And yet every "Christian" sins every day and continues to believe they'll be forgiven for it. Imagine that. Exact same thing.
I don't think it is.
I don't think you can genuinely repent if, when you're committing the sin, you do it at least partly because you think you're going to eschatologically get away with it when God forgives you. And if you can't properly repent, you can't get forgiven.
Christians sin, of course, but I don't think they sin because they think they can get away with it. It's a lapse; they're not using forgiveness as an exit strategy, or at least they shouldn't be. It's pretty easy to see the difference.
I agree. I don't think they sin because they can get away with it (forgiveness). But I do think they sin knowing they will get away with it (again, forgiveness). There's a very, very slight difference, but it's still basically the same thing.
Repentance is only possible if you're genuinely contrite, and I don't see how someone who became gay in order to prove their point could be genuinely contrite about it.
Nonetheless, Christians DO sin every day, and they DO trust that, by grace, they will be saved.
There are plenty of us gay Christians who readily admit that we are sinners.
When we treat our partners hurtfully or with neglect - yes...that is certainly sin.
But our faithful coupling is not sin at all; it is a great blessing.
Of course, I'd never argue with that.
I'm not a Christian - but I don't like to see people maligned, and I think that Trevorocity's portrayal of Christian understandings of sin is not quite right.