Protestant errors and inventions (3)

[rockytopva]

That the letters to Churches were not written to Churches but "church ages"

Correct! The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John: - Rev 1:1

1. Revelations covers things that must come to pass

The mystery of the seven stars which thou sawest in my right hand, and the seven golden candlesticks. The seven stars are the angels of the seven churches: and the seven candlesticks which thou sawest are the seven churches. - Revelation 1:20

These things saith he that holdeth the seven stars in his right hand, who walketh in the midst of the seven golden candlesticks - Revelation 2:1

2. The seven stars are the angels of the seven churches. A star can be a planet, sun, or constellation. I believe that the star is in reference to a constellation. We all who have been saved are part of a constellation of believers who are a light to this present world. Note also that this is a mystery. If they were simply seven Asian churches then it is no mystery! We are all held in his right hand!

3. The seven candlesticks are the seven churches...And Christ walks in the midst of them! Whenever two or three of us are together in Christs name... Lo! There is he also!

4. The prophesies fit the day and the time...

Ephesus – Apostolic – Leaving the first love… “All they which are in Asia be turned away from me…” – II Timothy 1:15
Smyrna – Martyrs – Persecutions ten days… Foxes Book of Martyrs describes ten Roman persecutions.
Pergamos – Orthodox – A pyrgos is a fortified structure – Needed for the dark ages.
Thyatira – Catholic – The Spirit of Jezebel is to persecute, control, and to dominate. This spirit can invade any church!
Sardis – Protestant – A sardius is a gem, elegant yet hard and rigid. Doctrine in the head, little in the heart.
Philadelphia – Methodist – To obtain sanctification was to do so with love.
Laodicea – Charismatic – Rich and increased with goods and have need of nothing?

5. I am not the only one who believes that the churches came down through time. I have also heard this taught on the BBNRadio.org.

 

[heavenlessstar]

Correct! The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John: - Rev 1:1

4. The prophesies fit the day and the time...

Ephesus – Apostolic – Leaving the first love… “All they which are in Asia be turned away from me…” – II Timothy 1:15
Smyrna – Martyrs – Persecutions ten days… Foxes Book of Martyrs describes ten Roman persecutions.
Pergamos – Orthodox – A pyrgos is a fortified structure – Needed for the dark ages.
Thyatira – Catholic – The Spirit of Jezebel is to persecute, control, and to dominate. This spirit can invade any church!
Sardis – Protestant – A sardius is a gem, elegant yet hard and rigid. Doctrine in the head, little in the heart.
Philadelphia – Methodist – To obtain sanctification was to do so with love.
Laodicea – Charismatic – Rich and increased with goods and have need of nothing?

I've come to think they might represent conditions that Christians could be in. If I'm wrong and we really are in the Laodicean age, I had better break out my "IN CASE OF GREAT TRIBULATION" kit.

 

[rockytopva]

I've come to think they might represent conditions that Christians could be in. If I'm wrong and we really are in the Laodicean age, I had better break out my "IN CASE OF GREAT TRIBULATION" kit.

The mystery is Christs and not mine. I really believe that this is the Laodicean age. And observe what variety of churches we have these days!

 

[MoreCoffee]

Should you add the belief that the Catholic Church sold indulgences is an error or invention?

1. A bible with only 66 books.
2. The King James Version of the bible is the only trustworthy bible in English.
   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xA-M3kEpGt0
3. Saint Paul's letters are not inspired.
4. Sola Scriptura - In English "Scripture alone" is the theory (unsupported by sacred scripture) that "all things necessary for God's glory, man's salvation, faith and life, is either expressly set down in Scripture, or by good and necessary consequence may be deduced from Scripture.
   [*]Prima Scriptura - A doctrine teaching that besides canonical scripture, there are other guides for what a believer should believe, and how he or she should live; the ways of knowing or understanding God and his will, that do not originate from canonized scripture, are in a second place, perhaps helpful in interpreting that scripture, but testable by the canon and correctable by it, if they seem to contradict the scriptures.
   [*]Personal interpretation of scripture as normative for individual faith content determination.
   [*]Arminianism.
   Arminianism is based on the theological ideas of the previously Dutch Reformed theologian Jacobus Arminius (1560–1609) and his historic supporters known as the Remonstrants. ... They asserted that:
   

   1. election (and condemnation on the day of judgment) was conditioned by the rational faith or nonfaith of man;
   2. the Atonement, while qualitatively adequate for all men, is efficacious only for the man of faith;
   3. unaided by the Holy Spirit, no person is able to respond to God’s will;
   4. grace is resistible; and
   5. believers are able to resist sin but are not beyond the possibility of falling from grace.

   ​
   [*]Faith alone - In Latin "sola fide" is the theory (unsupported by scripture fact) that salvation is obtained by faith alone.
   [*]Antinomianism.
   In Christianity, an antinomian is "one who holds that under the gospel dispensation of grace the moral law is of no use or obligation because faith alone is necessary to salvation". ... Antinomianism in modern times is commonly seen as the theological opposite to Legalism or Works righteousness, the notion that obedience to religious law earns salvation. This makes antinomianism an exaggeration of justification by faith alone. -- Wikipedia​
   [*]Total depravity - one of the five points of Calvinism (All human beings are affected by sin in every area of thought and conduct so that nothing that comes out of anyone apart from the regenerating grace of God can please God. As far as our relationships to God are concerned, we are all so ruined by sin that no one can properly understand either God or God's ways. Nor do we seek God, unless He is first at work within us to lead us to do so).
   [*]Unconditional election - second point of Calvinism (If sinners are as helpless in their depravity as the Bible says they are, unable to know and unwilling to seek God, then the only way they could possibly be saved is for God to take the initiative to change and save them. This is what election means. It is God choosing to save those who, apart from His sovereign choice and subsequent action, certainly would perish.).
   [*]Limited atonement - third point of Calvinism (Reformed theology stresses that Jesus actually atoned for the sins of those the Father had chosen. He actually propitiated the wrath of God toward His people by taking their judgment upon Himself, actually redeemed them, and actually reconciled those specific persons to God. A better name for "limited" atonement would be "particular" or "specific" redemption.).
   [*]Irresistible grace - fourth point of Calvinism (When God works in our hearts, regenerating us and creating a renewed will within, then what was undesirable before becomes highly desirable, and we run to Jesus just as previously we ran away from Him. Fallen sinners do resist God's grace, but His regenerating grace is effectual. It overcomes sin and accomplishes God's purpose).
   [*]Perseverance of the saints - the fifth point of Calvinism (You cannot lose your salvation. Because the Father has elected, the Son has redeemed, and the Holy Spirit has applied salvation, those thus saved are eternally secure. They are eternally secure in Christ. Some of the verses for this position are John 10:27-28 where Jesus said His sheep will never perish; John 6:47 where salvation is described as everlasting life; Romans 8:1 where it is said we have passed out of judgment; 1 Corinthians 10:13 where God promises to never let us be tempted beyond what we can handle; and Phil. 1:6 where God is the one being faithful to perfect us until the day of Jesus’ return.)
   [*]Once saved always saved.
   1. Once saved always saved even when one denies the faith some time after being saved.
   2. Rededications even though once saved always saved.
   [*]Double predestination. [In the Reformed view God from all eternity decrees some to election and positively intervenes in their lives to work regeneration and faith by a monergistic work of grace. To the non-elect God withholds this monergistic work of grace, passing them by and leaving them to themselves. He does not monergistically work sin or unbelief in their lives. Even in the case of the "hardening" of the sinners' already recalcitrant hearts, God does not, as Luther stated, "work evil in us (for hardening is working evil) by creating fresh evil in us." -- R. C. Sproul]
   [*]Lapsarianism:The logical order of God's decrees in Calvinist theology is the study of the logical order (in God's mind, before Creation) of the decree to ordain or allow the fall of man and reprobation in relation to his decree to elect and save sinners. Several opposing positions have been proposed, all of which have names with the Latin root lapsus meaning fall.
   1. Supralapsaranism.
   2. Infralapsarianism/Sublapsarianism.
   [*]Penal substitutionary atonement - A widespread Reformed conception of the Atonement is that in Christ’s Passion and death, God the Father poured out all of His wrath for the sins of the elect, on Christ the Son. In Christ’s Passion and death, Christ bore the punishment of the Father’s wrath that the elect deserved for their sins.
   [*]Ordinances/Anti-sacramentalism.
   [*]Infant dedication (not baptism) in a worship-service. [This is a common practise in many groups but rarely has a formal doctrine accompanying it as an explanation of why it is done.]
   [*]It isn't baptism unless one is submerged.
   [*]Only people old enough to say the sinner's prayer can be baptised.
   [*]One is born again by saying & believing the sinner's prayer (or a near equivalent).
   [*]Believer's baptism as a public testimony to one's faith but not as the washing away of one's sins nor as the means by which God brings about the birth from above.
   [*]Covenant baptism as a sign and symbol of inclusion into the new covenant community but not as the means by which God gives sanctifying grace.
   [*]The Lord's supper as sign and symbol but not as the body and blood of the Lord.
   [*]Two greater and five lesser Sacraments
   [*]Dispensing with baptism and the Lord's supper altogether. [A few groups have dropped all sacraments.]
   [*]Errors about The rapture
   1. A pre tribulation rapture.
   2. A mid tribulation rapture.
   3. A post tribulation rapture.
   [*]Errors about the seven churches in the Apocalypse of saint John. These errors are not formal components in denominational statements of belief although they are commonly held among some groups within Protestantism.
   1. The seven Churches represent seven ages.
   2. The seven Churches prove that denominations existed in the first century AD.
   [*]A future seven year reign of anti-christ with three and a half years of Israelite temple worship.
   [*]Dispensationalism: scripture must be rightly divided by applying a scheme of dispensations to it; usually seven dispensations are taken as normative but other additional dispensations are sometimes included.
   [*]The sermon on the mount as "old testament teaching" that's not applicable under the new covenant.
   [*]Sermon centric worship - being an explanation of the meaning of the text of scripture or a lesson on morals or doctrine for the instruction of the congregation - is the central act of worship in the gathering of the Lord's people on the Lord's day.
   [*]The One True Church is not a visible institution.
   
   1. The One True Church is made up of all true believers scattered throughout all denominations.
   [*]Denominationalism.
   [*]Rejection of the threefold office in the church. Deacon, Presbyter, and Bishop are the offices identified in sacred scripture and present in the church from the beginning. Some protestant bodies reduce this to Deacon and Elder some to Deacon and Pastor and some teach Deacon, Elder, and Pastor with Pastor distinguished only by being the "teaching elder" in a congregation.
   [*]Rejection of clerical laity distinction in the church.
   [*]The pulpit ought to be the focus of a church building's architecture and the table for use on communion ought to be to the side or located in a different part of the church because there is no altar in the church and no sacrifice is made in a church service.
   [*]Equivocating "worship" and "worship service" - meaning that worship in a small group consisting of two or more is the same as the 'worship service' one would normally experience on a Sunday in a church [building]. [Not a formal doctrine but a widely held view of Christian worship among some of those in denominations and also some in non-denominational and other groups.]
   [*]Lone ranger Christianity - the belief that one need not be associated with any church or group. While this is not a denominational belief it is sufficiently widespread to make a kind of theology of its own.
   [*]Emerging church movement; Emerging churches are fluid, hard to define, and varied; they contrast themselves with what has gone before by using the term "inherited church." Key themes of the emerging church are couched in the language of reform, Praxis-oriented lifestyles, Post-evangelical thought, and incorporation or acknowledgement of political and Post-modern elements. ... -- from Wikipedia
   [*]Prosperity gospel: Prosperity theology (sometimes referred to as the prosperity gospel, the health and wealth gospel, or the gospel of success) is a Christian religious doctrine that financial blessing is the will of God for Christians, and that faith, positive speech, and donations to Christian ministries will always increase one's material wealth.
   [*]Congregations electing their ministers.
   [*]Seeker sensitive churches.
   [*]Accountability partners.
   [*]Altar calls.
   [*]Church discipline effectively nullified because of the difficulty of enforcement in a multi-denominational community.
   [*]Temperance movement. ... Alcohol is wicked, "a devil's brew".
   [*]Old covenant Dietary laws applied to new covenant Christians: Christians shall have no shellfish, crustaceans, pork, or any 'unclean meat' because they are forbidden in the Law of Moses.
   [*]The papacy is the antichrist.
   [*]A specific pope will be the antichrist.
   [*]Michael the Archangel and Jesus being the same person.
   [*]Heaven being in the Orion nebula.
   [*]Soul Sleep: Death is an unconscious, sleep-like state. When Jesus Christ comes again, He will resurrect the dead who believe in Him and will take them to heaven. The dead who are unbelievers will be resurrected 1000 years later.
   [*]For a period of a thousand years the earth will be utterly desolate and only Satan and his angels will be on earth. At the end of the thousand years the the Holy City in heaven will descend to earth. The unrighteous dead will be resurrected and with Satan and his angels, they will surround the Holy City to attack God and His people. God will destroy Satan and his followers, hence removing sin forever.
   [*]Trail of blood - also known as Baptist successionism. It is the theory (unsupported by fact) that Jesus Christ is the founder of the Baptist denomination (Which in fact started around 1605 AD in England).
   [*]The Jesuit oath - An absurd fake oath that among other things says "make and wage relentless war, secretly and openly, against all heretics, Protestants and Masons".
   [*]Oneness (denying the Trinity) - some might think this is a non-christian sect's doctrine while others are inclined to believe that Oneness Pentecostalism is within the confines of Christianity.
   [*]Errors about indulgences:
   1. Indulgences forgive sins. This is more of a common error held by some Protestants because they either do not know what an indulgence is or because they believe anti-catholic propaganda. An indulgence does not cause any sins to be forgiven.
   2. The Catholic Church taught that indulgences were to be sold. This too is a common error held by some but not backed up by the facts of history. The Catholic Church does not and never did teach that one could buy an indulgence. But, alas, some unscrupulous people no doubt did sell them.

 

[Standing Up]

Errors about indulgences:

1. Indulgences forgive sins. This is more of a common error held by some Protestants because they either do not know what an indulgence is or because they believe anti-catholic propaganda. An indulgence does not cause any sins to be forgiven.
2. The Catholic Church taught that indulgences were to be sold. This too is a common error held by some but not backed up by the facts of history. The Catholic Church does not and never did teach that one could buy an indulgence. But, alas, some unscrupulous people no doubt did sell them.

There's always Popes Julius II and Leo X to witness to the contrary.

 

[MoreCoffee]

Errors about indulgences:

1. Indulgences forgive sins. This is more of a common error held by some Protestants because they either do not know what an indulgence is or because they believe anti-catholic propaganda. An indulgence does not cause any sins to be forgiven.
2. The Catholic Church taught that indulgences were to be sold. This too is a common error held by some but not backed up by the facts of history. The Catholic Church does not and never did teach that one could buy an indulgence. But, alas, some unscrupulous people no doubt did sell them.

There's always Popes Julius II and Leo X to witness to the contrary.

Perhaps there's documentation to back this claim?

An infallible pronouncement from Julius II (who was dead by the time Martin Luther got worked up about indulgences) or Leo X (who excommunicated Martin Luther on 3 January 1521) would do otherwise the claim is just empty words.

 

[tadoflamb]

 

[sonshine234]

Correct! The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John: - Rev 1:1

1. Revelations covers things that must come to pass

The mystery of the seven stars which thou sawest in my right hand, and the seven golden candlesticks. The seven stars are the angels of the seven churches: and the seven candlesticks which thou sawest are the seven churches. - Revelation 1:20

These things saith he that holdeth the seven stars in his right hand, who walketh in the midst of the seven golden candlesticks - Revelation 2:1

2. The seven stars are the angels of the seven churches. A star can be a planet, sun, or constellation. I believe that the star is in reference to a constellation. We all who have been saved are part of a constellation of believers who are a light to this present world. Note also that this is a mystery. If they were simply seven Asian churches then it is no mystery! We are all held in his right hand!

3. The seven candlesticks are the seven churches...And Christ walks in the midst of them! Whenever two or three of us are together in Christs name... Lo! There is he also!

4. The prophesies fit the day and the time...

Ephesus – Apostolic – Leaving the first love… “All they which are in Asia be turned away from me…” – II Timothy 1:15
Smyrna – Martyrs – Persecutions ten days… Foxes Book of Martyrs describes ten Roman persecutions.
Pergamos – Orthodox – A pyrgos is a fortified structure – Needed for the dark ages.
Thyatira – Catholic – The Spirit of Jezebel is to persecute, control, and to dominate. This spirit can invade any church!
Sardis – Protestant – A sardius is a gem, elegant yet hard and rigid. Doctrine in the head, little in the heart.
Philadelphia – Methodist – To obtain sanctification was to do so with love.
Laodicea – Charismatic – Rich and increased with goods and have need of nothing?

5. I am not the only one who believes that the churches came down through time. I have also heard this taught on the BBNRadio.org.

I was talking about you and those alike who make up that error that you do. You see what you say is baloney, I use to believe the lies you believe

 

[Hentenza]

Prove that something wasn't done? Prove that it was done, under Catholic hierarchy auspices...

Already have. Can you refute my posts instead of just making statements devoid of evidence?

 

[rockytopva]

I was talking about you and those alike who make up that error that you do. You see what you say is baloney, I use to believe the lies you believe

In which... Further proof that the analogy of the seven churches is correct... The sister churches, from Ephesus to Laodicea, did not always like each other. The Orthodox here do not remember that the Catholics had no love for them either. Remember Constantinople!

 

[sonshine234]

In which... Further proof that the analogy of the seven churches is correct... The sister churches, from Ephesus to Laodicea, did not always like each other. The Orthodox here do not remember that the Catholics had no love for them either. Remember Constantinople!

Your analogy is error. The seven Churches were real churches not some dispie stupidity

 

[rockytopva]

---http://www.lakewoodchurch.com/Pages/Home.aspx

 

[rockytopva]

Well.. All I can say is... Time to catch Lakewood Churches live Saturday night broadcast! Who-Hoo! It's called error and invention by many of you but I like it!

Watch Online

 

[Root of Jesse]

Is not a negative since the extant evidence that a good number of bishops and archbishops of the Catholic Church were part of the feudal system is overwhelming. I have already given at least two examples in a previous post. If you can refute it then go for it.

BTW- Are you denying the problem of simony and local bishop power during the middle ages? If you are, what are you basing your opinion on?

1. The burden is on you to prove that a good number of bishops were part of the feudal system, and to define what that means.
2. The bishops are humans. They did, at times, conduct themselves poorly, and many did crave earthly power. But that's just sinful, and doesn't imply that the Church taught or approved that these practices, which are not part of the Church's Tradition, BTW.

We can find sinful bad Protestant leaders, too.

 

[Root of Jesse]

Errors about indulgences:

1. Indulgences forgive sins. This is more of a common error held by some Protestants because they either do not know what an indulgence is or because they believe anti-catholic propaganda. An indulgence does not cause any sins to be forgiven.
2. The Catholic Church taught that indulgences were to be sold. This too is a common error held by some but not backed up by the facts of history. The Catholic Church does not and never did teach that one could buy an indulgence. But, alas, some unscrupulous people no doubt did sell them.

There's always Popes Julius II and Leo X to witness to the contrary.

That the Church mentions ways that Catholics can pay the temporal punishment for their own sins is different that the Church selling indulgences. The Bible recommends spiritual and corporal works of mercy, and the Church says one of these is giving alms to some entity in need of money. For example, if I give money to a homeless person on the street, or if I give money to a church building fund, either way, I'm giving alms. But that, alone, does not get me any indulgence. There's other things I must do. That's what the Church teaches, and no Pope ever promoted selling indulgences for donating money. Regardless of the mission that Tetzel was sent on, and how he fulfilled that mission, the Church never sanctioned him to sell indulgences.

 

[Root of Jesse]

Already have. Can you refute my posts instead of just making statements devoid of evidence?

I didn't see where you did such a thing. Please point me.

 

[Root of Jesse]

Already have. Can you refute my posts instead of just making statements devoid of evidence?

I see where you have interpreted things that were done to your own liking. But documentation showing where the Pope said "Go out and sell these indulgences" or words to that effect, nope. Asking for donations to build St. Peter's Basilica is not against Church policy. Granting the remission of temporal punishment for sin isn't either, provided there's other conditions met. For example, you have to partake of the Sacrament of Reconciliation, and do the required penance before an indulgence could be granted. Penances sometimes took years of public humiliation in that day. Quite different from your concept of "Say you're sorry, and all will be forgiven..."

 

[MoreCoffee]

Some rewording of errors and inventions in the list and the removal of one list element because it really seems to apply to a group who are so heterodox that it would be improper to include them in the list - this refers to those who reject Paul's letters as uninspired.

1. A bible with only 66 books.
2. The King James Version of the bible is the only trustworthy bible in English.
   Rick Flanders: Why We Use the King James Version of the Bible (Lancaster Baptist Church) - YouTube
3. Sola Scriptura - In English "Scripture alone" is the theory (unsupported by sacred scripture) that "all things necessary for God's glory, man's salvation, faith and life, is either expressly set down in Scripture, or by good and necessary consequence may be deduced from Scripture.
   [*]Prima Scriptura - A doctrine teaching that besides canonical scripture, there are other guides for what a believer should believe, and how he or she should live; the ways of knowing or understanding God and his will, that do not originate from canonized scripture, are in a second place, perhaps helpful in interpreting that scripture, but testable by the canon and correctable by it, if they seem to contradict the scriptures.
   [*]Personal interpretation of scripture as normative (see J I Packer's, FUNDAMENTALISM AND THE WORD OF GOD)
   [*]Arminianism.
   Arminianism is based on the theological ideas of the previously Dutch Reformed theologian Jacobus Arminius (1560–1609) and his historic supporters known as the Remonstrants. ... They asserted that:
   

   1. election (and condemnation on the day of judgment) was conditioned by the rational faith or nonfaith of man;
   2. the Atonement, while qualitatively adequate for all men, is efficacious only for the man of faith;
   3. unaided by the Holy Spirit, no person is able to respond to God’s will;
   4. grace is resistible; and
   5. believers are able to resist sin but are not beyond the possibility of falling from grace.

   ​
   [*]Faith alone - In Latin "sola fide" is the theory (unsupported by scripture fact) that salvation is obtained by faith alone.
   [*]Antinomianism.
   In Christianity, an antinomian is "one who holds that under the gospel dispensation of grace the moral law is of no use or obligation because faith alone is necessary to salvation". ... Antinomianism in modern times is commonly seen as the theological opposite to Legalism or Works righteousness, the notion that obedience to religious law earns salvation. This makes antinomianism an exaggeration of justification by faith alone. -- Wikipedia​
   [*]Total depravity - one of the five points of Calvinism (All human beings are affected by sin in every area of thought and conduct so that nothing that comes out of anyone apart from the regenerating grace of God can please God. As far as our relationships to God are concerned, we are all so ruined by sin that no one can properly understand either God or God's ways. Nor do we seek God, unless He is first at work within us to lead us to do so).
   [*]Unconditional election - second point of Calvinism (If sinners are as helpless in their depravity as the Bible says they are, unable to know and unwilling to seek God, then the only way they could possibly be saved is for God to take the initiative to change and save them. This is what election means. It is God choosing to save those who, apart from His sovereign choice and subsequent action, certainly would perish.).
   [*]Limited atonement - third point of Calvinism (Reformed theology stresses that Jesus actually atoned for the sins of those the Father had chosen. He actually propitiated the wrath of God toward His people by taking their judgment upon Himself, actually redeemed them, and actually reconciled those specific persons to God. A better name for "limited" atonement would be "particular" or "specific" redemption.).
   [*]Irresistible grace - fourth point of Calvinism (When God works in our hearts, regenerating us and creating a renewed will within, then what was undesirable before becomes highly desirable, and we run to Jesus just as previously we ran away from Him. Fallen sinners do resist God's grace, but His regenerating grace is effectual. It overcomes sin and accomplishes God's purpose).
   [*]Perseverance of the saints - the fifth point of Calvinism (You cannot lose your salvation. Because the Father has elected, the Son has redeemed, and the Holy Spirit has applied salvation, those thus saved are eternally secure. They are eternally secure in Christ. Some of the verses for this position are John 10:27-28 where Jesus said His sheep will never perish; John 6:47 where salvation is described as everlasting life; Romans 8:1 where it is said we have passed out of judgment; 1 Corinthians 10:13 where God promises to never let us be tempted beyond what we can handle; and Phil. 1:6 where God is the one being faithful to perfect us until the day of Jesus’ return.)
   [*]Once saved always saved.
   1. Once saved always saved even when one denies the faith some time after being saved.
   2. Rededications even though once saved always saved.
   [*]Double predestination. [In the Reformed view God from all eternity decrees some to election and positively intervenes in their lives to work regeneration and faith by a monergistic work of grace. To the non-elect God withholds this monergistic work of grace, passing them by and leaving them to themselves. He does not monergistically work sin or unbelief in their lives. Even in the case of the "hardening" of the sinners' already recalcitrant hearts, God does not, as Luther stated, "work evil in us (for hardening is working evil) by creating fresh evil in us." -- R. C. Sproul]
   [*]Lapsarianism:The logical order of God's decrees in Calvinist theology is the study of the logical order (in God's mind, before Creation) of the decree to ordain or allow the fall of man and reprobation in relation to his decree to elect and save sinners. Several opposing positions have been proposed, all of which have names with the Latin root lapsus meaning fall.
   1. Supralapsaranism.
   2. Infralapsarianism/Sublapsarianism.
   [*]Penal substitutionary atonement - Penal substitutionary atonement refers to the doctrine that Christ died on the cross as a substitute for sinners. God imputed the guilt of our sins to Christ, and he, in our place, bore the punishment that we deserve. This was a full payment for sins, which satisfied both the wrath and the righteousness of God, so that He could forgive sinners without compromising His own holy standard.
   [*]Ordinances/Anti-sacramentalism.
   [*]Infant dedication (not baptism).
   [*]It isn't baptism unless one is submerged.
   [*]Only people old enough to say the sinner's prayer can be baptised.
   [*]One is born again by saying & believing the sinner's prayer (or a near equivalent).
   [*]Believer's baptism as a public testimony to one's faith but not as the washing away of one's sins nor as the means by which God brings about the birth from above.
   [*]Covenant baptism as a sign and symbol of inclusion into the new covenant community but not as the means by which God gives sanctifying grace.
   [*]The Lord's supper as sign and symbol but not as the body and blood of the Lord.
   [*]Two greater and five lesser Sacraments.
   [*]Dispensing with baptism and the Lord's supper altogether. [A few groups have dropped all sacraments.]
   [*]Errors about The rapture
   1. A pre tribulation rapture.
   2. A mid tribulation rapture.
   3. A post tribulation rapture.
   [*]Errors about the seven churches in the Apocalypse of saint John. These errors are not formal components in denominational statements of belief although they are commonly held among some groups within Protestantism.
   1. The seven Churches represent seven ages.
   2. The seven Churches prove that denominations existed in the first century AD.
   [*]A future seven year reign of anti-christ with three and a half years of Israelite temple worship.
   [*]Dispensationalism: scripture must be rightly divided by applying a scheme of dispensations to it; usually seven dispensations are taken as normative but other additional dispensations are sometimes included.
   [*]The sermon on the mount as "old testament teaching" that's not applicable under the new covenant.
   [*]Sermon centric worship - being an explanation of the meaning of the text of scripture or a lesson on morals or doctrine for the instruction of the congregation - is the central act of worship in the gathering of the Lord's people on the Lord's day.
   [*]The One True Church is not a visible institution.
   
   1. The One True Church is made up of all true believers scattered throughout all denominations.
   [*]Denominationalism.
   [*]Rejection of the threefold office in the church. Deacon, Presbyter, and Bishop are the offices identified in sacred scripture and present in the church from the beginning. Some protestant bodies reduce this to Deacon and Elder some to Deacon and Pastor and some teach Deacon, Elder, and Pastor with Pastor distinguished only by being the "teaching elder" in a congregation.
   [*]Rejection of clerical laity distinction in the church.
   [*]The pulpit ought to be the focus of a church building's architecture and the table for use on communion ought to be to the side or located in a different part of the church because there is no altar in the church and no sacrifice is made in a church service.
   [*]Equivocating "worship" and "worship service" - meaning that worship in a small group consisting of two or more is the same as the 'worship service' one would normally experience on a Sunday in a church [building]. [Not a formal doctrine but a widely held view of Christian worship among some of those in denominations and also some in non-denominational and other groups.]
   [*]Being a Christian while eschewing any church affiliation. Is the belief that one need not be associated with any church or group. While this is not a denominational belief it is sufficiently widespread to make a kind of theology of its own.
   [*]Emerging church movement; Emerging churches are fluid, hard to define, and varied; they contrast themselves with what has gone before by using the term "inherited church." Key themes of the emerging church are couched in the language of reform, Praxis-oriented lifestyles, Post-evangelical thought, and incorporation or acknowledgement of political and Post-modern elements. ... -- from Wikipedia
   [*]Prosperity gospel: Prosperity theology (sometimes referred to as the prosperity gospel, the health and wealth gospel, or the gospel of success) is a Christian religious doctrine that financial blessing is the will of God for Christians, and that faith, positive speech, and donations to Christian ministries will always increase one's material wealth.
   [*]Congregations electing their ministers.
   [*]Seeker sensitive churches.
   [*]Accountability partners.
   [*]Altar calls.
   [*]Church discipline effectively nullified because of the difficulty of enforcement in a multi-denominational community.
   [*]Temperance movement. ... Alcohol is wicked, "a devil's brew".
   [*]Old covenant Dietary laws applied to new covenant Christians: Christians shall have no shellfish, crustaceans, pork, or any 'unclean meat' because they are forbidden in the Law of Moses.
   [*]The papacy is the antichrist.
   [*]A specific pope will be the antichrist.
   [*]Michael the Archangel and Jesus being the same person.
   [*]Heaven being in the Orion nebula.
   [*]Soul Sleep: Death is an unconscious, sleep-like state. When Jesus Christ comes again, He will resurrect the dead who believe in Him and will take them to heaven. The dead who are unbelievers will be resurrected 1000 years later.
   [*]For a period of a thousand years the earth will be utterly desolate and only Satan and his angels will be on earth. At the end of the thousand years the the Holy City in heaven will descend to earth. The unrighteous dead will be resurrected and with Satan and his angels, they will surround the Holy City to attack God and His people. God will destroy Satan and his followers, hence removing sin forever.
   [*]Trail of blood - also known as Baptist successionism. It is the theory (unsupported by fact) that Jesus Christ is the founder of the Baptist denomination (Which in fact started around 1605 AD in England).
   [*]The Jesuit oath - An absurd fake oath that among other things says "make and wage relentless war, secretly and openly, against all heretics, Protestants and Masons".
   [*]Oneness (denying the Trinity) - some might think this is a non-christian sect's doctrine while others are inclined to believe that Oneness Pentecostalism is within the confines of Christianity.
   [*]Errors about indulgences:
   1. Indulgences forgive sins. This is more of a common error held by some Protestants because they either do not know what an indulgence is or because they believe anti-catholic propaganda. An indulgence does not cause any sins to be forgiven.
   2. The Catholic Church taught that indulgences were to be sold. This too is a common error held by some but not backed up by the facts of history. The Catholic Church does not and never did teach that one could buy an indulgence. But, alas, some unscrupulous people no doubt did sell them.

 

[Standing Up]

That the Church mentions ways that Catholics can pay the temporal punishment for their own sins is different that the Church selling indulgences. The Bible recommends spiritual and corporal works of mercy, and the Church says one of these is giving alms to some entity in need of money. For example, if I give money to a homeless person on the street, or if I give money to a church building fund, either way, I'm giving alms. But that, alone, does not get me any indulgence. There's other things I must do. That's what the Church teaches, and no Pope ever promoted selling indulgences for donating money. Regardless of the mission that Tetzel was sent on, and how he fulfilled that mission, the Church never sanctioned him to sell indulgences.

Does this count? Don't you consider the vicar of Christ to be the pope?

http://www.hillsdalesites.org/personal/hstewart/Documents/(1517)%20Sermon%20On%20Indulgences%20(Tetzel).pdf

 

[Standing Up]

At the time a Dominican monk named Johann Tetzel was the great mouthpiece, commissioner, and preacher of indulgences in Germany. His preaching raised enormous amounts of money which were sent to Rome. This was particularly the case in the new mining town St. Annaberg, where I, Friedrich Myconius, listened to him for over two years. The claims of this uneducated and shameful monk were unbelievable. Thus he said that even if someone had slept with Christ's dear Mother, the Pope had power in heaven and on earth to forgive as long as the money was put into the indulgences coffer. And if the Pope would forgive, God also had to forgive. He furthermore said if they would put money quickly into the coffer to obtain grace and indulgence, all the mountains near St. Annaberg would turn into pure silver. He claimed that in the very moment the coin rang in the coffer, the soul rose up to heaven. Such a marvellous thing was his indulgence. In sum and substance: God was no longer God, as he had bestowed all divine power to the Pope: 'Tu es Petrus, tibi dabo claves, quodcunque.' And then there were the masters of the Inquisition, who banished and burned those saying conflicting words.
This indulgence was highly respected. When the commissioner was welcomed to town, the papal bull was carried on velvet or gold cloth. All the priests, monks, councilmen, teachers, pupils, men, women, maids, and children went to meet him singing in solemn procession with flags and candles. The bells tolled and when he entered the church the organ played. A red Cross was put up in the middle of the church to which the Pope's banner was affixed. In short: even God himself could not have been welcomed and received more beautifully. Source: Friedrich Myconius, Historia reformationis, p. 14.

I suppose Rome could plead ignorance or blindness or stupidity or ineptness over the issue, thus setting up their pattern to handle more recent crimes.