Prophetic practice thread (2)

[Yekcidmij]

A vision is not 100% true.

How do you know which parts to trust then?

 

[Tawhano]

And had this message been for you and it was something you had experienced it would have shown you how involved God is in every moment of our life.

I don’t think it would have shown me that but I am guessing it wasn’t for me as it doesn’t ring any bells. Thanks anyways.

 

[millerrod]

This would have rang a bell if it was for you because it was horrible its sad anyone ever had to see this. But i guess it would be encouraging to know God was with you when you did.

 

[millerrod]

Jimmie i think what ciners was meaning is that visions are not always literal that they are many times symbolic in meaning which has to be studied by Gods Word. In a vision you may see a dead body but it may not be literal it may be symbolic of spiritual death. Most of the visions in the Bible were not literal but used symbolizm which had to have discernment to understand the symbolizm being used. I think its just a time thing God wants our time doesnt need it just wants it. Being a father i can understand that.

 

[Yekcidmij]

Jimmie i think what ciners was meaning is that visions are not always literal that they are many times symbolic in meaning which has to be studied by Gods Word. In a vision you may see a dead body but it may not be literal it may be symbolic of spiritual death. Most of the visions in the Bible were not literal but used symbolizm which had to have discernment to understand the symbolizm being used. I think its just a time thing God wants our time doesnt need it just wants it. Being a father i can understand that.

OK. got it.

 

[Tawhano]

But i guess it would be encouraging to know God was with you when you did.

I tell you I am going through some trouble times and you tell me God wants me to know someone I know is going to die. How do you get encouragement from that?

 

[knownbeforetime]

I got a word from someone else out of the clear blue Saturday. I was in a parade of all things and afterwards this guy (well, not a stranger. he goes to my church which I just joined) came up to me and says, "God want to say to you that you are not invisible."

 

[c1ners]

Jimmie i think what ciners was meaning is that visions are not always literal that they are many times symbolic in meaning which has to be studied by Gods Word. In a vision you may see a dead body but it may not be literal it may be symbolic of spiritual death. Most of the visions in the Bible were not literal but used symbolizm which had to have discernment to understand the symbolizm being used. I think its just a time thing God wants our time doesnt need it just wants it. Being a father i can understand that.

Yep, that's what I meant. Thanks Rod. But it's sort of discouraging how so many "so called" Christains seem the need to pick apart every little sentence that someone else says. To me that's just not showing much of Christ's love.

 

[Yekcidmij]

Yep, that's what I meant. Thanks Rod. But it's sort of discouraging how so many "so called" Christains seem the need to pick apart every little sentence that someone else says. To me that's just not showing much of Christ's love.

Sorry for raising a question. Is that anti-christian? Am I somehow less christian or a "so called" christian? And I didn't pick apart every sentence. I just had a question on that one part.

I'm going to go repent for asking questions now.

 

[c1ners]

Sorry for raising a question. Is that anti-christian? Am I somehow less christian or a "so called" christian? And I didn't pick apart every sentence. I just had a question on that one part.

I'm going to go repent for asking questions now.

Maybe one should not question so much. God is all powerful. He is almighty. His ways are far greater than our ways, and no matter how much nor how often we question, it's just going to be too much for us to understand. Besides, one should have FAITH in God. Constantly picking other people apart, and constantly undermining others faith, does not IMO bring forth the love of Christ. Making someone feel like a fool for not being able to speak as clearly as YOU think they should does not show the love of Christ. Constantly undermining the gifts of God does not show the love of Christ. You may or may not be a true Christain. Only God knows your heart. But your actions of constantly questioning, and constantly belittling others for not believing exactly what you believe is very discouraging.

I'm sure I probably made some errors in my typing and wording of things. If so, please understand that God made me the way he did, and I am far from perfect.

 

[c1ners]

I got a word from someone else out of the clear blue Saturday. I was in a parade of all things and afterwards this guy (well, not a stranger. he goes to my church which I just joined) came up to me and says, "God want to say to you that you are not invisible."

That's a wonderful word sweetie. Hold it dear to your heart, and never forget it. You are more than special in Gods eyes. You are never forgotten, and he sees all the good that you do. You have a kind and loving heart, and God sees the love that pours forth.

 

[millerrod]

Stephen if this was someone you know then it could be a warning from God and we would intercede in prayer. This is what intercession is about seeing a threat, being shown a threat and responding to the treat through prayer. Do you rember in the Bible when the woman came to Jesus and asked him to heal her daughter. Christs responsed that he would not heal the young woman the mother then plead her case and Christs mind was changed and he healed the young woman. The point is from scripture we can intercede and through prayer change the outcome.
Not only through prayer but by being allowed to see things that are possible before they happen we can prepare. Example if you know this woman and say for example she has high blood pressure or some other sickness maybe she is unwilling to have the doctors treat it some people can be very stubburn about going to the Doctor if this was the case you could tell them what God has shown in prayer and this may provoke them into realizing they need to go to the Dr.
Another True example ; i was asked to pray for a young man and his family when i was praying for him God showed me a child who couldnt breath and someone searching for keys. I told the young man about this and come to find out his child had asma and the dad was always misplacing his keys. That night his son had a serious asma attack and had he not been forwarned by God and had the keys were he could find them and been prepared as well as he was the child the Dr. said would have died. You see not only was prayer interceding but the warning was taken and the childs life was saved. This happened to a member on CF that goes by Dorf. Did this edify Dorf ?? Yes he felt God not only Loved him enough to warn him of what could happen Gods warning saved the life of his son. That my brother beyound a doubt is edifying.
Stephen if you did know this woman i would hope that you would pray for her safty. And if she is sick encourage her to see the Dr. if she seems healthy and hasnt been to a Dr. the encourage her to have a yearly physicial. Check her house for any loose rugs that she might slip on, check for any other safty issues that may help prevent a fall. And above all remember its not always about us and what edifys us many times its about others we are around and in helping them and praying for them we in the end are edifyed knowing we tried to help them.
Stephen 4 years ago God showed me that my son was going to die at a young age. But i know that as long as i pray in Christs name and intercede the threat and as long as i am praying a hege of protection around my son in Christs name and the Love of God that outcome can be changed. The fact that God loves me enough to warn me is greatly edifying. And even if my son did die because of that warning and the fact i have done all that i can do in the name of Christ i would be prepared emotionally because i was warned and that to is edifying.
Stephen as i told you i was praying for another person as well when you told me this was not for you i then emailed her and explained that i was shown images of homeless people when i was praying for her and then when i was praying for you i seen the lady who had fallen-or had seemed to die. and i told her that i didnt know if it was all for her or not but the homeless part was for sure. Come to find out she many years ago started a homeless shelter that helps people. God was acknowledgeing this to her and this was edifying for her to know God was seeing her service to him. She and i feel that when God showed the dead woman on the floor God was showing her what the outcome could have been for many of the homeless had they not been helped.
I hope this helps you understand brother. Peace and Love !! Rod

 

[Criada]

Rod - would like to stand with you in praying for your son.
Do you mind telling me his name? (doesn't matter if you'd rather not, God knows who he is!)
love you, brother

 

[The Princess Bride]

I got a word from someone else out of the clear blue Saturday. I was in a parade of all things and afterwards this guy (well, not a stranger. he goes to my church which I just joined) came up to me and says, "God want to say to you that you are not invisible."

That's awesome!

 

[millerrod]

Thanks Criada his name is Colter !!

 

[trulyliving]

Hi folks. I would like to request your prayers over me... the Lord led me to a small church where I am currently serving as a Bible study leader. I've always better identified with Pentecostal/Charismatic churches, but at least for this season, I am in a church that is not one. (And honestly, I respectfully don't care to get into an argument about that because I choose to have a Kingdom perspective vs. denominational perspective) I've witnessed the reasons why God has brought to this small church and don't question it. However, one thing I notice is that it has been a loong loong while (since Spring of this year) where I have not had a prophetic dream or vision. That's a long stretch for me and I think it's partly due to the fact that the spiritual headship I'm under is not one that believes in practicing such gifts. What do you think??

Recently, an old friend told me a major life-changing situation that I actually dreamt about 5 yrs ago. So I'd really appreciate your prayers because I don't want to miss out on some warnings and major guidance.

Please let me know too if you have any word for me, especially something that's been in my heart since summer (hmmm coinky-dink?); and if you've experienced something similar.

thanks again

 

[Yekcidmij]

Maybe one should not question so much.

Maybe we should not question at all. Maybe we should accept anything the wind blows our way that someone claims to be of God. God's Almighty right and we might not understand everything, so we should take the attituck that anything goes. You claim it's from God, who am I to question?

This is of course nonsense. If this is how Christians operated throughout Christian history, we wouldn't be recognizable as Christians.

God is all powerful. He is almighty. His ways are far greater than our ways,and no matter how much nor how often we question, it's just going to be too much for us to understand.

God is always Love, Mercy, Grace, and has revealed somethings about Himself to us that we can understand. I can pull verses from 1 & 2 Tim, Titus, 1 Peter or 2 Peter, and Jude to stat with that tell us we should use good sense and contend for the faith. So my questions aren't without warrant. And the one I asked a couple of posts ago was very simple and Rod gave a good answer. Should have been the end of it, but now I have become a "so-called" christian. Have I ever labeled anyone as some some of "so-called" christian?

Besides, one should have FAITH in God.

I agree, and that's why I will continue to question man.

Constantly picking other people apart

Like what you did here? Like what I'm doing here? I'm just trying to get to the bottom of some things, and you said a lot in your post, so I like going line by line to be sure to cover things.

, and constantly undermining others faith, does not IMO bring forth the love of Christ.

Please, anyone, if I start to undermine your faith let me know. Because if I do either (1) your faith is weak and/or (2) maybe I have a good point and something needs to be studied more carefully. If you don't agree with me, fine.

Does not questioning somehow bring out the love of Christ? Does allowing anything without question show the love of Christ?

Making someone feel like a fool not being able to speak as clearly as YOU think they should does not show the love of Christ.

Am stopping here for a second becuase this is most definately not my intent. Have I done this to anyone in the past? Sorry if I have, not my intent at all. If you PM or let me know I will apologize, in public if preferred. Sorry if I come off as a jerk or rough, I don't want to make anyone feel like a fool.

Tell you what, if I say something that you dont agree with, but you can't put your finger on it, just tell me something doesn't sound right and we can figure it out.

Constantly undermining the gifts of God does not show the love of Christ.

I don't accept, as of yet, that I have undermined the gifts of God, or even could do that. If something is really of God, then my questions or objections shouldn't be a problem and should be the least of everyones concern.

You may or may not be a true Christain. Only God knows your heart. But your actions of constantly questioning, and constantly belittling others for not believing exactly what you believe is very discouraging.

I'll take it as a vote of "no-confidence" for my christianity. I have as of yet to question anyone's Christianity in here so why do you question mine? Again, I don't mean to belittle anyone if that's what I've done. I don't think everyone should beleive just like me either. If you think I'm wrong, just show me where I'm wrong.

I'm sure I probably made some errors in my typing and wording of things. If so, please understand that God made me the way he did, and I am far from perfect.

Me too. Me too.





Sorry for the side track.....I'm done.

 

[Deba]

Was the dream as it pertains to your life now a warning or a confirmation?

 

[c1ners]

Jimmie, why don't we just agree to disagree. You seem to take my words the wrong way, and I guess I must be taking your the wrong way. Truce?

 

[Yekcidmij]

Vincent, why don't we just agree to disagree. You seem to take my words the wrong way, and I guess I must be taking your the wrong way. Truce?

Aight.

Till next post.......Just Joking.


Sincerely
-.....Vincent