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A few questions.
I believe that HIV/AIDS is in fact a huge problem for homosexual men. I have seen enough data to believe that male to male sex is indeed the single largest way this disease is spread.
Now, whether or not I view homsexual sex as a sin, would it be loving of me towards homosexual men to not make some effort to warn them?
On the flip side, if HIV/AIDS is indeed a "gay plague", then is it loving to ignore that based solely on the fact that it might offend homosexuals?
Just because someone has a point of view opposed to yours does not mean they are not acting out of love for those you are defending.
So, what should homosexuals do, dead2self? You've warned them (of what? one might ask) so are they supposed to turn 'straight' ...just like that? Or do they fess up and say that they were 'straight' all along and were merely feigning 'gay-ness' just to annoy the c--p out of Christians? Or, do they commit to celibacy for the rest of their lives and take a cold shower as often as need be? What, precisely, do you suggest? I mean ...seriously?
If you DO have some advice to give could you make the advice as constructive as possible and avoid quoting some probably already worn-out Bible passage? I'm not meaning to belittle the Bible but scriptures are, for the most part, unhelpful. Anyway, most homosexuals know the 'clout' scriptures off by heart.
Thanks.
True, I personally do not make a distinction between homosexual and heterosexual promiscuity. But that sidesteps my point. The simple fact is that it is a lot harder for a man to get HIV/AIDS from heterosexual sex than homosexual sex. Given that, is it really loving towards homosexuals to pretend otherwise? Leaving all morality aside, there are medical risks here that should be adressed. The problem is that when they are it is seen as gay-bashing. I would submit that the gay-bashers are those who would dogmatically deny medical facts that could save the lives of practicing homosexuals.
Maybe if you would actually answer my question instead of railing against me we'ed have a starting point my friend. If I have posted even 1 word to give offence in this thread I would ask you to show me. Not one time did I condemn homosexual behaviour, though I am against it. Not one time did I belittle anyone. I did not accuse any homosexual of being a closet heterosexual. I also did not even hint at apouting off a single verse from the Bible.
But this really does show why I ask. You are opposed to my views on this, so I must be out to put down and bash homosexuals. I, and the others here who have mentioned the medical risks simply cannot be acting out of love and concern for anyone in danger now can we?
What I ask you directly is this. Are you acting in a loving matter by either ignoring or denying the claims that the homosexual lifestyle carries a very heightened risk of HIV/AIDS based on your own brand of dogma?
Maybe if you would actually answer my question instead of railing against me we'ed have a starting point my friend. If I have posted even 1 word to give offence in this thread I would ask you to show me. Not one time did I condemn homosexual behaviour, though I am against it. Not one time did I belittle anyone. I did not accuse any homosexual of being a closet heterosexual. I also did not even hint at apouting off a single verse from the Bible.
But this really does show why I ask. You are opposed to my views on this, so I must be out to put down and bash homosexuals. I, and the others here who have mentioned the medical risks simply cannot be acting out of love and concern for anyone in danger now can we?
What I ask you directly is this. Are you acting in a loving matter by either ignoring or denying the claims that the homosexual lifestyle carries a very heightened risk of HIV/AIDS based on your own brand of dogma?
The problem with the question is that there is no one homosexual lifestyle. Depending on his actions, a homosexual man's chances of being infected with HIV can be very high or very low. Lumping all of these choices together obscures the truth rather than clarifying.
You're right. I stand corrected and I humbly apologize for having appeared to place you in the same category as some others on this subforum. I really didn't intend to do that, in fact I believe from having read your post that I COULD ask you such questions and receive intelligent responses. My delivery was not as good as it might have been. Sorry. I CAN see concern for others in your post. You're also correct in bringing to my attention the fact that dogma is/can be evident on both sides of this issue.
If you have any constructive advice/comments/input re the issue of homosexuality and the questions I posed, however, feel free to post them.
Proper Christian Behavior Does Not Include
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maligning and scapegoating gays and lesbians.
People who go out of their way to spread misinformation about gays and lesbians are not behaving in a Christ like manner. In fact they are serving evil and perverting Christ's message.
maligning and scapegoating gays and lesbians.
People who go out of their way to spread misinformation about gays and lesbians are not behaving in a Christ like manner. In fact they are serving evil and perverting Christ's message.
People who go out of their way to spread misinformation about God and His word are not behaving in a Christ-like manner. In fact they are serving evil and perverting Christ's message.
I think it does, it is indicting that those who do not accept misinformation about God and His word are somehow poorly treating those who peddle it.Naturally your post doesn't address how gays and lesbians are treated poorly by professed Christians...
...not to mention the very real possibility of internalized homophobia!
A few questions.
I believe that HIV/AIDS is in fact a huge problem for homosexual men. I have seen enough data to believe that male to male sex is indeed the single largest way this disease is spread.
Now, whether or not I view homsexual sex as a sin, would it be loving of me towards homosexual men to not make some effort to warn them?
On the flip side, if HIV/AIDS is indeed a "gay plague", then is it loving to ignore that based solely on the fact that it might offend homosexuals?
Just because someone has a point of view opposed to yours does not mean they are not acting out of love for those you are defending.
The simple fact is that it is a lot harder for a man to get HIV/AIDS from heterosexual sex than homosexual sex.
Given that, is it really loving towards homosexuals to pretend otherwise? Leaving all morality aside, there are medical risks here that should be adressed. The problem is that when they are it is seen as gay-bashing. I would submit that the gay-bashers are those who would dogmatically deny medical facts that could save the lives of practicing homosexuals.
Well if homophobia involves a loving warning of the truth then homophobia must be a good thing.Internalized homophobia is always a given when externalized homophobia is expressed.
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