Proof the Earth is Flat

[Bradskii]

Well the New Jerusalem (in Revelation) will be a cube equal in height as width and length. The measurements given, work out to be 1500 miles high, width and length. So at least higher than this structure.

So the Lunar Laser Ranging experiment is just NASA fooling us? And radar doesn't work either?

Lunar Laser Ranging experiment - Wikipedia

 

[d taylor]

So the Lunar Laser Ranging experiment is just NASA fooling us? And radar doesn't work either?

Lunar Laser Ranging experiment - Wikipedia

If i do not believe people have been to the moon, why would i believe that there is a mirror on the moon.

 

[Bradskii]

If i do not believe people have been to the moon, why would i believe that there is a mirror on the moon.

Because the results of the laser experiment tie in to the results we get with radar. To about a kilometer or so. How can that be?

 

[d taylor]

Because the results of the laser experiment tie in to the results we get with radar. To about a kilometer or so. How can that be?

So people are not able to play a numbers game, just to keep people believing that a man can get into a metal cylinder and travel 200,000+ miles.

Was the laser program to measure the moon distance ever open to the public.

 

[Bradskii]

So people are not able to play a numbers game, just to keep people believing that a man can get into a metal cylinder and travel 200,000+ miles.

Was the laser program to measure the moon distance ever open to the public.

Yep. The university of Texas has an obervatory and they've measured it. Doubters, difficulty and distance - Apollo 11's LRR experiment. Plus MIT and the Côte d'Azur Observatory in Grasse, France, and the Apache Point Observatory in New Mexico. Lunar Laser Ranging Experiment. All the details are readily available.

And radar confirms the distance.

 

[d taylor]

Yep. The university of Texas has an obervatory and they've measured it. Doubters, difficulty and distance - Apollo 11's LRR experiment. Plus MIT and the Côte d'Azur Observatory in Grasse, France, and the Apache Point Observatory in New Mexico. Lunar Laser Ranging Experiment. All the details are readily available.

And radar confirms the distance.

They do go to great lengths to keep this deception going, hope you will be around when the walls come tumbling down. That will be an interesting time.

 

[Bradskii]

They do go to great lengths to keep this deception going, hope you will be around when the walls come tumbling down. That will be an interesting time.

So everyone who has pointed a laser at the moon is in on some conspriracy. All those universities around the world, publicly funded with students doing tbe experiments are all in a plot to hide the fact that the moon is nothing more than a dIsc in the sky. And everyone who has bounced a radar signal off the moon has been contacted by...somebody...to make sure they don't let the cat out of the bag. And all the school kids who have used lunar eclipses and some basic maths to work out the distance to the moon has been sworn to secrecy. And every astronomer, professional or amateur and every scientist involved with celestial matters in every country on the planet that you could name is keeping this secret.

Wow.

 

[FreddyFreddo]

I made this video as a way to edify Christians on God's creation but even more so to bring people to the knowledge and truth of Jesus Christ and the Holy Bible (message to do that at end of video) through pulling them in with the truth of flat earth.

What do you guys think of it?
Any criticism/critique/suggestions welcome.

Thank you, Austin

Took the video out of my reply to save space on server...

So. You're telling me that when I look at the moon, the sun and the closest planets, I see 'discs' and not spheres? Discs that happen to present their round face in permanence? All turned towards the earth 24/7 365 days a year?
I'm sorry but when I look at the moon, I can CLEARLY see that is it a sphere. Why would the moon then be a sphere and the earth be a disc?
Not counting all the other planets and sun...

Not only that, but in the Bible I can find an expression for the roundness of the the earth in this one: "...the crown of the earth..."
A crown cannot be placed on a flat head, only on a round-shaped head. You haven't convinced me.
Sorry.

 

[d taylor]

So everyone who has pointed a laser at the moon is in on some conspriracy. All those universities around the world, publicly funded with students doing tbe experiments are all in a plot to hide the fact that the moon is nothing more than a dIsc in the sky. And everyone who has bounced a radar signal off the moon has been contacted by...somebody...to make sure they don't let the cat out of the bag. And all the school kids who have used lunar eclipses and some basic maths to work out the distance to the moon has been sworn to secrecy. And every astronomer, professional or amateur and every scientist involved with celestial matters in every country on the planet that you could name is keeping this secret.

Wow.

Since this is the age of deception, sure fits to the age.

 

[d taylor]

Not only that, but in the Bible I can find an expression for the roundness of the the earth in this one: "...the crown of the earth..."
A crown cannot be placed on a flat head, only on a round-shaped head. You haven't convinced me.
Sorry.

Show your Bible reference, post where in the Bible this is stated.

 

[FreddyFreddo]

Show your Bible reference, post where in the Bible this is stated.

Psalm 65:11 You crown the earth with the fruits of your goodness. Wherever you go, the tracks of your
chariot wheels drip with oil.

Isaiah 40:22 It is he who sits above the circle of the earth, and its inhabitants are like grasshoppers;
who stretches out the heavens like a curtain,
and spreads them like a tent to dwell in.

One verse talks about crowning the earth, the other talks about sitting above the circle of the eart.
Circle = round.
Crowning = Sphere

And you haven't answered my questions:
You're telling me that when I look at the moon, the sun and the closest planets, I see 'discs' and not spheres? Discs that happen to present their round face in permanence? All turned towards the earth 24/7 365 days a year?

 

[d taylor]

Psalm 65:11 You crown the earth with the fruits of your goodness. Wherever you go, the tracks of your
chariot wheels drip with oil.

Isaiah 40:22 It is he who sits above the circle of the earth, and its inhabitants are like grasshoppers;
who stretches out the heavens like a curtain,
and spreads them like a tent to dwell in.

One verse talks about crowning the earth, the other talks about sitting above the circle of the eart.
Circle = round.
Crowning = Sphere

And you haven't answered my questions:
You're telling me that when I look at the moon, the sun and the closest planets, I see 'discs' and not spheres? Discs that happen to present their round face in permanence? All turned towards the earth 24/7 365 days a year?

Your verse Psalm 65:11 the word you are saying is earth. In the Hebrew (strongs) the word is
8141. shanah
shanah: a year
Original Word: שָׁנֶה
Part of Speech: Noun Feminine
Transliteration: shanah
Phonetic Spelling: (shaw-neh')
Definition: a year

From The New King James Version
Psalms 65:11 You crown the year with Your goodness, And Your paths drip with abundance.

A circle is a flat plane a sphere is round example a ball is a sphere, a ball is not a circle, they are not the same.

Then God made two great lights: the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night. He made the stars also. God set them in the firmament of the heavens to give light on the earth,

Show me where in the Bible it is stated God created planets. In the creation account God states he created the sun, moon and stars, no mention of planets.

Psalms 136 does not mention planets.
To Him who laid out the earth above the waters,
For His mercy endures forever;
To Him who made great lights,
For His mercy endures forever—
The sun to rule by day,
For His mercy endures forever;
The moon and stars to rule by night,
For His mercy endures forever.

Paul does not even mention planets in 1st Corinthians 15
There are also celestial bodies and terrestrial bodies; but the glory of the celestial is one, and the glory of the terrestrial is another. There is one glory of the sun, another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars; for one star differs from another star in glory.

 

[FreddyFreddo]

Your verse Psalm 65:11 the word you are saying is earth. In the Hebrew (strongs) the word is
8141. shanah
shanah: a year
Original Word: שָׁנֶה
Part of Speech: Noun Feminine
Transliteration: shanah
Phonetic Spelling: (shaw-neh')
Definition: a year

From The New King James Version
Psalms 65:11 You crown the year with Your goodness, And Your paths drip with abundance.

A circle is a flat plane a sphere is round example a ball is a sphere, a ball is not a circle, they are not the same.

Then God made two great lights: the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night. He made the stars also. God set them in the firmament of the heavens to give light on the earth,

Show me where in the Bible it is stated God created planets. In the creation account God states he created the sun, moon and stars, no mention of planets.

Psalms 136 does not mention planets.
To Him who laid out the earth above the waters,
For His mercy endures forever;
To Him who made great lights,
For His mercy endures forever—
The sun to rule by day,
For His mercy endures forever;
The moon and stars to rule by night,
For His mercy endures forever.

Paul does not even mention planets in 1st Corinthians 15
There are also celestial bodies and terrestrial bodies; but the glory of the celestial is one, and the glory of the terrestrial is another. There is one glory of the sun, another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars; for one star differs from another star in glory.

Well, I'm not here to convince you that the earth is a sphere but your OP purports to convince me that the earth is flat.
I'm not convinced.
And you still haven't answered my questions:
-- You're telling me that when I look at the moon, the sun and the closest planets, I see 'discs' and not spheres? Discs that happen to present their round face in permanence? All turned towards the earth 24/7 365 days a year? --

 

[d taylor]

Well, I'm not here to convince you that the earth is a sphere but your OP purports to convince me that the earth is flat.
I'm not convinced.
And you still haven't answered my questions:
-- You're telling me that when I look at the moon, the sun and the closest planets, I see 'discs' and not spheres? Discs that happen to present their round face in permanence? All turned towards the earth 24/7 365 days a year? --

I can not say about planets, as i do not believe planets exist. There is no mention of God creating planets in Genesis 1. As for the sun, moon and stars they are created lights, created to give light on the earth. Why would their light need to shine anywhere but toward the earth.

 

[FreddyFreddo]

I can not say about planets, as i do not believe planets exist. There is no mention of God creating planets in Genesis 1. As for the sun, moon and stars they are created lights, created to give light on the earth. Why would their light need to shine anywhere but toward the earth.

Okay, well... If you want to believe the earth is flat, that there is only one sun, no universe, no planets, black holes and galaxies then it's on you. It won't rob me of my sleep.
Some people believe that trees have souls, that the earth thinks like if it had a brain and that fairies are real, so it's not the weirdest thing I've heard.
Another thing, though.
I don't see how proving that the earth is flat is going to suddenly make unbelievers aknowledge the existence of God. There's a disconnect in that line of thinking in that it negates the fact that people will believe whatever they want to believe regardless of the evidence staring them in the face.

 

[Bradskii]

Since this is the age of deception, sure fits to the age.

Why are students and schoolkids and amateur astronomers trying to deceive you?

 

[d taylor]

Why are students and schoolkids and amateur astronomers trying to deceive you?

They are just believing what they are told, just like anyone who has been grilled since 3 or 4 years of age what to believe about earth. Afer that work over for 13,14,15 + years there are few who can break away. You know cigarette corporations understand that, get a person smoking at a young age and few will break away. They will have a customer the rest of their lives.

 

[Bradskii]

They are just believing what they are told, just like anyone who has been grilled since 3 or 4 years of age what to believe about earth. Afer that work over for 13,14,15 + years there are few who can break away. You know cigarette corporations understand that, get a person smoking at a young age and few will break away. They will have a customer the rest of their lives.

That's exactly what's not happening. All those people I mentioned are doing experiments themselves and reaching the same conclusions. They aren't simply being told 'accept this'. They are individually coming to the same conclusions. Which means they need to be in on this conspiracy to hide the facts as you see them.

So why are they trying to deceive you?

 

[d taylor]

That's exactly what's not happening. All those people I mentioned are doing experiments themselves and reaching the same conclusions. They aren't simply being told 'accept this'. They are individually coming to the same conclusions. Which means they need to be in on this conspiracy to hide the facts as you see them.

So why are they trying to deceive you?

oh they are, post them then lets see their unbiased discovery. So since kindergarten they have not been told the earth is a globe the sun is 93 million the moon is 230,000 stars are sun billions of light years away. They just happened to go out and figure this out own their own, and all doing their own research, they are coming to the same discovery's.

 

[Bradskii]

oh they are, post them then lets see their unbiased discovery. So since kindergarten they have not been told the earth is a globe the sun is 93 million the moon is 230,000 stars are sun billions of light years away. They just happened to go out and figure this out own their own, and all doing their own research, they are coming to the same discovery's.

They have been told that the moon is 385,000 kms away and they check this themselves. Simple maths. Simple observations. Schoolkids can do this. Here's two ways that you can do it: Do-It-Yourself Guide to Measuring the Moon's Distance - Universe Today. Universities as I noted use their obervatories to teach students how to do it.

And the ancient Greeks weren't told how far away the moon was but they worked it out themselves. In 400BC for heaven's sake! Who told them to keep it a secret and why?

And they're all in on a conspriracy to deceive you. So all of the tens of thousands of students, schoolkids and amateur astronomers across the world have been contacted by...someone...and told to keep the real distance a secret.

Who contacted them and why?