Proof that the Book of Mormon is a fraud!!!

[Mea Culpa]

They change what "fricken" thing every day?

LOL! The Book of Mormon. I was not saying that very harshly, that wasn't my intent, but it is the truth.

From what I understand that thing goes under more revisions than... I don't know what!

 

[Doc T]

LOL! The Book of Mormon. I was not saying that very harshly, that wasn't my intent, but it is the truth.

From what I understand that thing goes under more revisions than... I don't know what!

The Bible?

Doc

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[Serapha]

Hello Doc,




The great thing about the Bible is that there are manuscripts to draw from for accuracy. As more manuscripts are found of Greek/Hebrew texts, even those that are not the biblical text, then we can learn even more about the true meaning of words from ancient times.


By reading the every-day letters we can learn the every day meaning of Paul's letters... by reading the tax receipts, the laws, etc., we can learn even more about Jewish laws and customs in the first century and earlier.


Isn't that great?


~serapha~

 

[Mea Culpa]

The Bible?

Doc

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I was talking about the book of morman. they have made BIG changes to it over time. it is a false book

 

[happyinhisgrace]

Chrono, to accept Jesus as your Lord and Savior makes one a Christian. You can not accept Jesus as your Lord and Savior of your salvation without becoming a Christian. Just accepting Him in this way MAKES one a Christian.

 

[XVII]

going to church doesnt make you a christian just like going to mcdonalds doesnt make you a hamburger

 

[Fit4Christ]

You don't have to be Christian to accept Jesus either....

What do you have to be in order to accept Jesus???

When you accept Jesus, you become Christian and go to the Christian room to play. When you accept things beyond Christ, then you go to the Unorthodox Room.

 

[A New Dawn]

Hello Doc,



The great thing about the Bible is that there are manuscripts to draw from for accuracy. As more manuscripts are found of Greek/Hebrew texts, even those that are not the biblical text, then we can learn even more about the true meaning of words from ancient times.

By reading the every-day letters we can learn the every day meaning of Paul's letters... by reading the tax receipts, the laws, etc., we can learn even more about Jewish laws and customs in the first century and earlier.

Isn't that great?

~serapha~

And reading tax receipts, etc., makes one more spiritual?

 

[A New Dawn]

I was talking about the book of morman. they have made BIG changes to it over time. it is a false book

By far, the largest number of changes that were made were grammatical.

In case it is not common knowledge, the editor of the first printing punctuated the whole book. I am sure that there were a lot of mistakes due to the fact that the printer was not a member of the team that translated it and did not have God's ear when it came to punctuating it. And putting a comma in in place of a period, for example, can drastically change the meaning of a passage.

So, if you all could point out some changes that were not grammatical, that would be more helpful to the discussion.

 

[Apex]

LOL! The Book of Mormon. I was not saying that very harshly, that wasn't my intent, but it is the truth.

From what I understand that thing goes under more revisions than... I don't know what!

So you think that the Bible has never had any changes made to it? What about the literally thousands of different translations? And as Jenda said pretty much all of the changes were puncuation, and some changes were to make the wording make a little bit more sense to us, since we do not speak the same language as the Prophets of the Book of Mormon. You might notice that whenever critics of our Church claim the Book of Mormon has undergone thousands of changes, they never specify what kind of changes.

 

[gort]

You might notice that whenever critics of our Church claim the Book of Mormon has undergone thousands of changes, they never specify what kind of changes.


The lds never specify those "plain and precious" missing parts either.

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[Apex]

The lds never specify those "plain and precious" missing parts either.

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Those "plain and Precious missing parts" are gramatical and punctual errors.

 

[Doc T]

I was talking about the book of morman. they have made BIG changes to it over time. it is a false book

You asked, "From what I understand that thing [the BofM] goes under more revisions than... I don't know what!"

I was suggesting that, for what ever reason, the Bible has undergone more revisions than the BofM.

Doc

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[gort]

Those "plain and Precious missing parts" are gramatical and punctual errors.

I should have said, "The lds never explain what those plain and precious parts that are missing from the Bible."

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[Apex]

I should have said, "The lds never explain what those plain and precious parts that are missing from the Bible."

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To say that not one person that has ever translated the Bible into one of its many translations never once made an error is streching it very far. For to err is to be human. Its simple, if you are a human, you will make a mistake. You can check out the "Dialogue of Justin" for a specific example that claims that parts were removed from scripture.

 

[Chrono Traveler]

What do you have to be in order to accept Jesus???

When you accept Jesus, you become Christian and go to the Christian room to play. When you accept things beyond Christ, then you go to the Unorthodox Room.

Do you understand Jesus didn't like the idea of a factioned religion?

You can live your life anyway you want, you don't have to be, or have to ever be Christian to be open to Christ...

 

[Serapha]

So you think that the Bible has never had any changes made to it? What about the literally thousands of different translations? And as Jenda said pretty much all of the changes were puncuation, and some changes were to make the wording make a little bit more sense to us, since we do not speak the same language as the Prophets of the Book of Mormon. You might notice that whenever critics of our Church claim the Book of Mormon has undergone thousands of changes, they never specify what kind of changes.

Hi there!




You misrepresent the majority of translations of the Bible. The key to understanding translations is to understand the philosophy of the translation committees... such as to accept formal equivalency or dynamic equivalency, to be implicit or explicit, choices as to whether to fill out a story (1 Cor 10:10)... and the dreaded theological bias (bom, NWT... etc)


The majority of people judge translations according to their interpretation and neglect to take the time to understand the philosophy of the translations. If all the translation committees for the Bible had the same philosophies, then the translations would be identical...


even down to the page numbering as in the bom...


I hope this helps in your understanding of Bible translations and the reasoning for much of the difference in "translations" and not differences in "interpretations"... for the translation committees meet their goals before they publish.


~serapha~

 

[happyinhisgrace]

Those "plain and Precious missing parts" are gramatical and punctual errors.

Not all of them. Some of them change the whole meaning of the passage.

 

[CrownCaster]

And what is through him? I feel like I would rather live by the teachings than just say some silly prayer every night. I feel if you live by his teachings, that is truly accepting him. You don't have to be Christian to live a good life..

And that would be great if "living a good life" were all it was about. We are talking about a perfect holy God here. Our best efforts amount to a hill of poop compared to Him. That is why we must have Jesus, who was perfect because He is God and payed for the sins. Without Him, our meager good works are still just awash in the sea of nothing.

 

[CrownCaster]

You don't have to be Christian to accept Jesus either....

Nope, your right, but you do have to accept Jesus to be a Christian.