Preterism ends now ...but futurists are not right either

[Reborn-Adopted]

REVELATION 22​

Inside New Jerusalem:​

[Revelation 22:1 KJV] And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb.

[Ezekiel 47:1 KJV] Afterward he brought me again unto the door of the house; and, behold, waters issued out from under the threshold of the house eastward: for the forefront of the house stood toward the east, and the waters came down from under from the right side of the house, at the south side of the altar.

[Revelation 22:2 KJV] In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, was there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, [and] yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations.

[Ezekiel 47:7 KJV] Now when I had returned, behold, at the bank of the river were very many trees on the one side and on the other.
[Ezekiel 47:9 KJV] And it shall come to pass, that every thing that liveth, which moveth, whithersoever the rivers shall come, shall live: and there shall be a very great multitude of fish, because these waters shall come thither: for they shall be healed; and every thing shall live whither the river cometh.
[Ezekiel 47:12 KJV] And by the river upon the bank thereof, on this side and on that side, shall grow all trees for meat, whose leaf shall not fade, neither shall the fruit thereof be consumed: it shall bring forth new fruit according to his months, because their waters they issued out of the sanctuary: and the fruit thereof shall be for meat, and the leaf thereof for medicine.

outside New Jerusalem:​

Ezekiel 47:11 KJV — But the miry places thereof and the marishes thereof shall not be healed; they shall be given to salt.

Isaiah 57:20-21 KJV — But the wicked are like the troubled sea, when it cannot rest, whose waters cast up mire and dirt. There is no peace, saith my God, to the wicked.

Psalm 69:2 KJV — I sink in deep mire, where there is no standing: I am come into deep waters, where the floods overflow me.

Psalm 69:14 KJV — Deliver me out of the mire, and let me not sink: let me be delivered from them that hate me, and out of the deep waters.

Jeremiah 38:6 KJV — Then took they Jeremiah, and cast him into the dungeon of Malchiah the son of Hammelech, that was in the court of the prison: and they let down Jeremiah with cords. And in the dungeon there was no water, but mire: so Jeremiah sunk in the mire.

2 Peter 2:22 KJV — But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire.

Psalm 40:2 KJV — He brought me up also out of an horrible pit, out of the miry clay, and set my feet upon a rock, and established my goings.

[Psalm 9:15-17 KJV] The heathen are sunk down in the pit that they made: in the net which they hid is their own foot taken.
[16] The LORD is known by the judgment which he executeth: the wicked is snared in the work of his own hands. Higgaion. Selah.
[17] The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations that forget God.

[Psalm 9:19-20 KJV] Arise, O LORD; let not man prevail: let the heathen be judged in thy sight.
[20] Put them in fear, O LORD: that the nations may know themselves to be but men. Selah.


Daniel 2:41 KJV — And whereas thou sawest the feet and toes, part of potters' clay, and part of iron, the kingdom shall be divided; but there shall be in it of the strength of the iron, forasmuch as thou sawest the iron mixed with miry clay.

Daniel 2:43 KJV — And whereas thou sawest iron mixed with miry clay, they shall mingle themselves with the seed of men: but they shall not cleave one to another, even as iron is not mixed with clay.

No more delusion: No more curse for disobeying GOD ...as all you do is Obey as you Serve Him:​

[Revelation 22:3 KJV] And there shall be no more curse: but the throne of God and of the Lamb shall be in it; and his servants shall serve him:

[Isaiah 66:4 KJV] I also will choose their delusions, and will bring their fears upon them; because when I called, none did answer; when I spake, they did not hear: but they did evil before mine eyes, and chose that in which I delighted not.

[2 Thessalonians 2:11 KJV] And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:


If you have The Seal of GOD ...you are Owned by Him and not satan ...you don't have the mark of the beast.

[Revelation 22:4 KJV] And they shall see his face; and his name shall be in their foreheads.

[Psalm 104:29-33 KJV] Thou hidest thy face, they are troubled: thou takest away their breath, they die, and return to their dust.
[30] Thou sendest forth thy spirit, they are created: and thou renewest the face of the earth.
[31] The glory of the LORD shall endure for ever: the LORD shall rejoice in his works.
[32] He looketh on the earth, and it trembleth: he toucheth the hills, and they smoke.
[33] I will sing unto the LORD as long as I live: I will sing praise to my God while I have my being.

Do you have His LIGHT inside you where The Kingdom Is?

[Revelation 22:5 KJV] And there shall be no night there; and they need no candle, neither light of the sun; for the Lord God giveth them light: and they shall reign for ever and ever.

The Early Manuscripts didn't Say "Holy Prophets" ...It Said "LORD GOD of the spirits of the prophets". JESUS Is my LORD GOD, but He is not His Infinite FATHER:

[Revelation 22:6 KJV] And he said unto me, These sayings are faithful and true: and the Lord God of the holy prophets sent his angel to shew unto his servants the things which must shortly be done.

JESUS Did Come Quickly. He didn't Say The Entire Book would happen at that Point as full preterists want:

[Revelation 22:7 KJV] Behold, I come quickly: blessed is he that keepeth the sayings of the prophecy of this book.

John made this innocent mistake before. This Angel didn't show him the entire Book? (Rev 21:9):

[Revelation 22:8-9 KJV] And I John saw these things, and heard them. And when I had heard and seen, I fell down to worship before the feet of the angel which shewed me these things. 9 Then saith he unto me, See thou do it not: for I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren the prophets, and of them which keep the sayings of this book: worship God.

This is different than Daniel:​

[Revelation 22:10 KJV] And he saith unto me, Seal not the sayings of the prophecy of this book: for the time is at hand.

[Daniel 12:9 KJV] 9 And he said, Go thy way, Daniel: for the words [are] closed up and sealed till the time of the end.

[Revelation 22:11 KJV] He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still.

[Daniel 12:10 KJV] Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand.

1 Corinthians 1:19 KJV
For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent.

Isaiah 29:11-14 KJV
And the vision of all is become unto you as the words of a book that is sealed, which men deliver to one that is learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I cannot; for it is sealed: [12] And the book is delivered to him that is not learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I am not learned. [13] Wherefore the Lord said, Forasmuch as this people draw near me with their mouth, and with their lips do honour me, but have removed their heart far from me, and their fear toward me is taught by the precept of men: [14] Therefore, behold, I will proceed to do a marvellous work among this people, even a marvellous work and a wonder: for the wisdom of their wise men shall perish, and the understanding of their prudent men shall be hid.

He Brought Inheritance ...Adoption ...The Ability to Remain on The Narrow WAY:​

[Revelation 22:12 KJV] And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.

JESUS Is The First and Last into His Kingdom: full preterists try to say this Test is never going to end ..well...​

[Revelation 22:13 KJV] I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.

JESUS Is Saying to Do The Commandments of His FATHER to Enter into New Jerusalem ...The Kingdom:​

[Revelation 22:14 KJV] Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.

Letting us know that Wheat and tares continue at the same time:

[Revelation 22:15 KJV] For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.

Letting us know This entire Book was about the false churches: And JESUS Is LIGHT:

[Revelation 22:16 KJV] I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.

Did you Repent one time ...or do you Remain turned from your sin? Do you have ears to hear? Do you have Water Welling up to Eternal LIFE?

[Revelation 22:17 KJV] And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely.

the opposite:
Jeremiah 7:30, 34 For the children of Judah have done evil in my sight, saith the LORD: they have set their abominations in the house which is called by my name, to pollute it. 34 Then will I cause to cease from the cities of Judah, and from the streets of Jerusalem, the voice of mirth, and the voice of gladness, the voice of the bridegroom, and the voice of the bride: for the land shall be desolate.

[John 4:14 KJV] But whosoever drinketh of the water that I shall give him shall never thirst; but the water that I shall give him shall be in him a well of water springing up into everlasting life.

i think this is for those responsible for publishing This Book ...but i sure am not going to test that idea:

[Revelation 22:18-19 KJV] For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: 19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and [from] the things which are written in this book.

JESUS Brought Fire Baptism:​

[Revelation 22:20-21 KJV] He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus. 21 The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. Amen.

Luke 12:49-51 KJV — I am come to send fire on the earth; and what will I, if it be already kindled? But I have a baptism to be baptized with; and how am I straitened till it be accomplished! Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay; but rather division:

John 13:36 KJV — Simon Peter said unto him, Lord, whither goest thou? Jesus answered him, Whither I go, thou canst not follow me now; but thou shalt follow me afterwards.

[John 21:19 KJV] This spake he, signifying by what death he should glorify God. And when he had spoken this, he saith unto him, Follow me.

 

[Reborn-Adopted]

LIFE​

LIFE is not about your literal physical body living forever ...It's not about your physical body being Resurrected either.

JESUS Is The Author of The Living Relationship with GOD The FATHER. Your Relationship status is either Alive or dead.​

If you are Past The White Throne Judgment because you already have Eternal LIFE ...then you are in The Kingdom ...New Jerusalem ...The Living Relationship ...The Body of CHRIST. But if you are not ...you are in delusion that you will Enter after your Judgment.

No one had Eternal LIFE until He Returned with the Resurrection of The Just (The First Resurrection):

[Revelation 20:4 KJV] And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

JESUS Is The LIFE of The Relationship with GOD The Infinite FATHER. JESUS Breathed LIFE into Adam, The Apostles, and you ...if you are Born Again.

John 14:6 KJV — Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.​

The very last Verse of The Psalms is JESUS' Breath for The Living Relationship:​

Psalm 150:6 KJV — Let every thing that hath breath praise the LORD. Praise ye the LORD.​

Galatians 2:20 KJV — I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.

Colossians 3:10 KJV — And have put on the new man, which is renewed in knowledge after the image of him that created him:

JESUS' Breath is The Living Relationship with GOD.​

Isaiah 61:9-11 KJV — And their seed shall be known among the Gentiles, and their offspring among the people: all that see them shall acknowledge them, that they are the seed which the LORD hath blessed. I will greatly rejoice in the LORD, my soul shall be joyful in my God; for he hath clothed me with the garments of salvation, he hath covered me with the robe of righteousness, as a bridegroom decketh himself with ornaments, and as a bride adorneth herself with her jewels. For as the earth bringeth forth her bud, and as the garden causeth the things that are sown in it to spring forth; so the Lord GOD will cause righteousness and praise to spring forth before all the nations.

Having CHRIST'S SPIRIT inside you doesn't always mean you have LIFE. There were bad people in The OT with Breath. CHRIST was Shaping His Relationship Creation. The question is: Does His SPIRIT have a Permanent Home in you? Are you still capable of choosing death?

Getting a New Heart is being a Relationship Creation.

GOD The Infinite FATHER Created The Universe that has physics, time, and math. But That is not The Creation Described in Genesis. Genesis Is The Creation of The Relationship with GOD The Infinite FATHER. It plainly Tells you that the earth was already here in chaos. Man didn't have a way to be in a Relationship with GOD. GOD'S SON was Moving Upon the waters.

Genesis 1:2 KJV — And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

The Source Text didn't give The Dove a gender:
Genesis 8:9 KJV — But the dove found no rest for the sole of her foot, and she returned unto him into the ark, for the waters were on the face of the whole earth: then he put forth his hand, and took her, and pulled her in unto him into the ark.

i keep finding these weird things the early church tried to pull in Scripture. The KJV is using modified Source Text. The THGNT is Using the earliest Manuscripts.

They changed the Word "κυρίου" to "θεου" ...they changed "LORD" to "GOD" ...when the Word before is "τοῦ", "The". It actually Says: "To tend The Assembly of The LORD" ...the snakes wanted It to sound like JESUS as The CREATOR was Giving His Blood for The Church.

JESUS Is The HOLY SPIRIT.​

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You can be an Overseer Via The HOLY SPIRIT because He is directly Connected to His Own Blood.​

Acts 20:28
(KJV) Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.

(THGNT) προσέχετε ἑαυτοῖς καὶ παντὶ τῷ ποιμνίῳ, ἐν ᾧ ὑμᾶς τὸ πνεῦμα τὸ ἅγιον ἔθετο ἐπισκόπους, ποιμαίνειν τὴν ἐκκλησίαν τοῦ κυρίου, ἣν περιεποιήσατο διὰ τοῦ αἵματος τοῦ ἰδίου.

JESUS Is my GOD, but He has A FATHER ...why is this so hard to understand?​

satan's will figured out that if JESUS Is The Creator ..."JESUS isn't The SON of GOD anymore". if The Creator got your past sins Forgiven ...then The Creator can get your future sins Forgiven also (imputed righteousness).

JESUS has no pleasure in Kicking you out of The Relationship ...to delusion.​

JESUS can kill your Relationship with His FATHER ...and send you to hell ...which is delusion that you are still Saved.​

Luke 12:1-5
1 In the meantime, when an innumerable multitude of people had gathered together, so that they trampled one another, He began to say to His disciples first of all, “Beware of the leaven of the Pharisees, which is hypocrisy.
2 For there is nothing covered that will not be revealed, nor hidden that will not be known. 3 Therefore whatever you have spoken in the dark will be heard in the light, and what you have spoken in the ear in inner rooms will be proclaimed on the housetops.

4 “And I say to you, My friends, do not be afraid of those who kill the body, and after that have no more that they can do. 5 But I will show you whom you should fear: Fear Him who, after He has killed, has power to cast into hell; yes, I say to you, fear Him!

we are in a sea of the dead

[1 Samuel 2:6 KJV] The LORD killeth, and maketh alive: he bringeth down to the grave, and bringeth up.

[1 Samuel 2:8 KJV] He raiseth up the poor out of the dust, and lifteth up the beggar from the dunghill, to set them among princes, and to make them inherit the throne of glory: for the pillars of the earth are the LORD'S, and he hath set the world upon them.
[1 Samuel 2:9 KJV] He will keep the feet of his saints, and the wicked shall be silent in darkness; for by strength shall no man prevail.

ETERNAL LIFE Is Knowing GOD and His SON, so you never choose death again.​

 

[Reborn-Adopted]

death​

death doesn't have anything to do with your physical body either ...well, except your chance of having Life ended. but if you are marked for the pit ...you were never coming out of it to Life anyways.

hell, cursed, outside New Jerusalem with the dogs, delusion.

death in Scripture is death to your Relationship with GOD. hell is where you go while separated from GOD. you wanted a relationship with death, so that's what you got. hell is right now, all around you ...most of you are in it right now ...darkness ...a prison.

[Genesis 2:17 KJV] But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.​

Revelation 18:2 KJV And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.

[Matthew 24:48-51 KJV] But and if that evil servant shall say in his heart, My lord delayeth his coming;
[49] And shall begin to smite his fellowservants, and to eat and drink with the drunken;
[50] The lord of that servant shall come in a day when he looketh not for him, and in an hour that he is not aware of,
[51] And shall cut him asunder, and appoint him his portion with the hypocrites: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

A Soul is very different from a Spirit. Soul in Scripture was originally a "living being". Spirit is your heart choices.

The OT gets very weird when Talking about Souls ...Being/Whole Body. You know how JESUS Talked about people being thirsty and that they wouldn't thirst anymore after having His Water of LIFE? Well, i guess it shouldn't be too much of a surprise that thirst can be related to death. The OT uses the same word for "soul" to describe the mouth/throat of hell.

the soul enlarged ...the direct opposite of The Body of CHRIST.​

[Isaiah 5:13-16 KJV] Therefore my people are gone into captivity, because they have no knowledge: and their honourable men are famished, and their multitude dried up with thirst.
[14] Therefore hell hath enlarged herself, and opened her mouth without measure: and their glory, and their multitude, and their pomp, and he that rejoiceth, shall descend into it.
[15] And the mean man shall be brought down, and the mighty man shall be humbled, and the eyes of the lofty shall be humbled:
[16] But the LORD of hosts shall be exalted in judgment, and God that is holy shall be sanctified in righteousness.

[Psalm 44:25 KJV] For our soul is bowed down to the dust: our belly cleaveth unto the earth.

[Philippians 3:19 KJV] Whose end is destruction, whose God is their belly, and whose glory is in their shame, who mind earthly things.)

You probably already knew souls are what go to hell ...what you didn't know is that it's right now while you are physically living.​

hell is not having JESUS' Breath of Relationship.

[Psalm 30:9 KJV] What profit is there in my blood, when I go down to the pit? Shall the dust praise thee? shall it declare thy truth?

Shinar is where the tower of babel was: babylon ...hell ...separation from GOD:​

[Zechariah 5:6-11 KJV] And I said, What is it? And he said, This is an ephah that goeth forth. He said moreover, This is their resemblance through all the earth.
[7] And, behold, there was lifted up a talent of lead: and this is a woman that sitteth in the midst of the ephah.
[8] And he said, This is wickedness. And he cast it into the midst of the ephah; and he cast the weight of lead upon the mouth thereof.
[9] Then lifted I up mine eyes, and looked, and, behold, there came out two women, and the wind was in their wings; for they had wings like the wings of a stork: and they lifted up the ephah between the earth and the heaven.
[10] Then said I to the angel that talked with me, Whither do these bear the ephah?
[11] And he said unto me, To build it an house in the land of Shinar: and it shall be established, and set there upon her own base.

[Jonah 2:1-5 KJV] Then Jonah prayed unto the LORD his God out of the fish's belly,
[2] And said, I cried by reason of mine affliction unto the LORD, and he heard me; out of the belly of hell cried I, and thou heardest my voice.
[3] For thou hadst cast me into the deep, in the midst of the seas; and the floods compassed me about: all thy billows and thy waves passed over me.
[4] Then I said, I am cast out of thy sight; yet I will look again toward thy holy temple.
[5] The waters compassed me about, even to the soul: the depth closed me round about, the weeds were wrapped about my head.

"corruption" is same Word for "pit"
[Jonah 2:6 KJV] I went down to the bottoms of the mountains; the earth with her bars was about me for ever: yet hast thou brought up my life from corruption, O LORD my God.

[Exodus 15:1-2 KJV] Then sang Moses and the children of Israel this song unto the LORD, and spake, saying, I will sing unto the LORD, for he hath triumphed gloriously: the horse and his rider hath he thrown into the sea.
[2] The LORD is my strength and song, and he is become my salvation: he is my God, and I will prepare him an habitation; my father's God, and I will exalt him.

JESUS is at War with darkness to Get you into The Relationship:
[Exodus 15:3 KJV] The LORD is a man of war: the LORD is his name.

[Exodus 15:10 KJV] Thou didst blow with thy wind, the sea covered them: they sank as lead in the mighty waters.
[Exodus 15:11 KJV] Who is like unto thee, O LORD, among the gods? who is like thee, glorious in holiness, fearful in praises, doing wonders?

hell is ...delusion that you are Saved:​

[Psalm 139:8-13 KJV] If I ascend up into heaven, thou art there: if I make my bed in hell, behold, thou art there.
[9] If I take the wings of the morning, and dwell in the uttermost parts of the sea;
[10] Even there shall thy hand lead me, and thy right hand shall hold me.
[11] If I say, Surely the darkness shall cover me; even the night shall be light about me.
[12] Yea, the darkness hideth not from thee; but the night shineth as the day: the darkness and the light are both alike to thee.
[13] For thou hast possessed my reins: thou hast covered me in my mother's womb.

Psalm 140:1-13 KJV — To the chief Musician, A Psalm of David. Deliver me, O LORD, from the evil man: preserve me from the violent man; Which imagine mischiefs in their heart; continually are they gathered together for war. They have sharpened their tongues like a serpent; adders' poison is under their lips. Selah. Keep me, O LORD, from the hands of the wicked; preserve me from the violent man; who have purposed to overthrow my goings. The proud have hid a snare for me, and cords; they have spread a net by the wayside; they have set gins for me. Selah. I said unto the LORD, Thou art my God: hear the voice of my supplications, O LORD. O GOD the Lord, the strength of my salvation, thou hast covered my head in the day of battle. Grant not, O LORD, the desires of the wicked: further not his wicked device; lest they exalt themselves. Selah. As for the head of those that compass me about, let the mischief of their own lips cover them. Let burning coals fall upon them: let them be cast into the fire; into deep pits, that they rise not up again. Let not an evil speaker be established in the earth: evil shall hunt the violent man to overthrow him. I know that the LORD will maintain the cause of the afflicted, and the right of the poor. Surely the righteous shall give thanks unto thy name: the upright shall dwell in thy presence.

Psalm 57:3-4 KJV — He shall send from heaven, and save me from the reproach of him that would swallow me up. Selah. God shall send forth his mercy and his truth. My soul is among lions: and I lie even among them that are set on fire, even the sons of men, whose teeth are spears and arrows, and their tongue a sharp sword.

Jeremiah 7:30, 34 For the children of Judah have done evil in my sight, saith the LORD: they have set their abominations in the house which is called by my name, to pollute it. 34 Then will I cause to cease from the cities of Judah, and from the streets of Jerusalem, the voice of mirth, and the voice of gladness, the voice of the bridegroom, and the voice of the bride: for the land shall be desolate.

side note: This is about babylon, so it doesn't sound like hell is infinite for individuals if the concept of babylon has smoke rising in the same way: ...you don't want smoke rising ...you want your Spirit to Rise:

[Revelation 19:3 KJV] And again they said, Alleluia. And her smoke rose up for ever and ever.

[Ephesians 4:23-24 KJV] And be renewed in the spirit of your mind;
[24] And that ye put on the new man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness.

you eat from the tree of knowledge of good and evil and don't know it:​

• you defined the definition of Grace into your version of free will.

• you defined Righteousness as something only CHRIST could do.

• you defined Faith as just claiming JESUS is real.

• you defined Love as excusing new sins.

• you defined Everlasting Life as physically living forever with magic bodies that force you on The Narrow Way.

• you defined the broad way as atheists.

• you defined hell as eternal torture to sell people a way out of it.

• you defined Living Bread as something you can Sacrifice.

• you defined The HOLY SPIRIT as someone other than JESUS.

• you defined JESUS to be equal to His FATHER in an attempt to make The Infinite Dimensional FATHER have your free will. way to go, you are saying GOD can cause separation from Himself ...it's how i know you are stuck on the death side of The Cross in delusion ...thinking you are Saved.

Jude 1:4 KJV — For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.

Of course we get our Righteousness from CHRIST ...but many have defined they can be that Righteousness without being Righteous themselves:

Isaiah 54:17 KJV — No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD.

 

[Reborn-Adopted]

delusion cursed​

being outside The Kingdom Relationship, but not knowing it.

Isaiah 66:3-4 KJV — ... Yea, they have chosen their own ways, and their soul delighteth in their abominations. I also will choose their delusions, and will bring their fears upon them; because when I called, none did answer; when I spake, they did not hear: but they did evil before mine eyes, and chose that in which I delighted not.

[Psalm 81:10-13 KJV] I am the LORD thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt: open thy mouth wide, and I will fill it.​

[11] But my people would not hearken to my voice; and Israel would none of me.​

[12] So I gave them up unto their own hearts' lust: and they walked in their own counsels.​

[13] Oh that my people had hearkened unto me, and Israel had walked in my ways!​

2 Thessalonians 2:11 KJV — And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

Jeremiah 17:5-6 KJV — Thus saith the LORD; Cursed be the man that trusteth in man, and maketh flesh his arm, and whose heart departeth from the LORD. For he shall be like the heath in the desert, and shall not see when good cometh; but shall inhabit the parched places in the wilderness, in a salt land and not inhabited.

"Just as in a time of war,
A soldier is not released.
So wickedness will not release those
who practice it."

Ecclesiastes 8 vs 8
As no man has power over the wind to
contain it,
so no one has authority over his day of death.
As no one can be discharged in wartime,
so wickedness will not release those
who practice it.

if you are not blind, New Jerusalem is already here.:
Revelation 22:3 KJV — And there shall be no more curse: but the throne of God and of the Lamb shall be in it; and his servants shall serve him:

Jeremiah 2:12-13 KJV — Be astonished, O ye heavens, at this, and be horribly afraid, be ye very desolate, saith the LORD. For my people have committed two evils; they have forsaken me the fountain of living waters, and hewed them out cisterns, broken cisterns, that can hold no water.

2 Corinthians 4:1-4 KJV — Therefore seeing we have this ministry, as we have received mercy, we faint not; But have renounced the hidden things of dishonesty, not walking in craftiness, nor handling the word of God deceitfully; but by manifestation of the truth commending ourselves to every man's conscience in the sight of God. But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost: In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

Ask yourself if GOD Handed you over to a delusion where you think you are ...or will be Saved without giving up your old self.

The Son Of GOD was in a Son Of Man to Show us THE WAY. the broad gate church worships The Dead Son Of Man ...not The LIVING CHRIST. ...because they think The Advocate gets them on The Way automatically.​

Jeremiah 6:14-17 KJV — They have healed also the hurt of the daughter of my people slightly, saying, Peace, peace; when there is no peace. Were they ashamed when they had committed abomination? nay, they were not at all ashamed, neither could they blush: therefore they shall fall among them that fall: at the time that I visit them they shall be cast down, saith the LORD. Thus saith the LORD, Stand ye in the ways, and see, and ask for the old paths, where is the good way, and walk therein, and ye shall find rest for your souls. But they said, We will not walk therein. Also I set watchmen over you, saying, Hearken to the sound of the trumpet. But they said, We will not hearken.

Romans 1:28 KJV — And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;

[Psalm 69:14-15 KJV] Deliver me out of the mire, and let me not sink: let me be delivered from them that hate me, and out of the deep waters.
[15] Let not the waterflood overflow me, neither let the deep swallow me up, and let not the pit shut her mouth upon me.

Acts 26:18 KJV — To open their eyes, and to turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan unto God, that they may receive forgiveness of sins, and inheritance among them which are sanctified by faith that is in me.

2 Corinthians 4:6-7 KJV — For God, who commanded the light to shine out of darkness, hath shined in our hearts, to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ. But we have this treasure in earthen vessels, that the excellency of the power may be of God, and not of us.

[2 Peter 1:19 KJV] We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts:

Luke 11:24-26 KJV — When the unclean spirit is gone out of a man, he walketh through dry places, seeking rest; and finding none, he saith, I will return unto my house whence I came out. And when he cometh, he findeth it swept and garnished. Then goeth he, and taketh to him seven other spirits more wicked than himself; and they enter in, and dwell there: and the last state of that man is worse than the first.

Isaiah 6:10 KJV — Make the heart of this people fat, and make their ears heavy, and shut their eyes; lest they see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and understand with their heart, and convert, and be healed.​

Joshua 24:20 If you forsake the Lord and serve foreign gods, then He will turn and do you harm and consume you, after He has done you good.”

Isaiah 26:14 KJV — They are dead, they shall not live; they are deceased, they shall not rise: therefore hast thou visited and destroyed them, and made all their memory to perish.​

The Fear of GOD is Him handing you back over to delusion to believe the serpent's lies ...the broad gate church.

they got cursed ...put under delusion?:

Matthew 21:43-44 KJV — Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof. And whosoever shall fall on this stone shall be broken: but on whomsoever it shall fall, it will grind him to powder.

Hosea 10:8 KJV — The high places also of Aven, the sin of Israel, shall be destroyed: the thorn and the thistle shall come up on their altars; and they shall say to the mountains, Cover us; and to the hills, Fall on us.

Luke 23:30 KJV — Then shall they begin to say to the mountains, Fall on us; and to the hills, Cover us.

Revelation 6:16 KJV — And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb:

[Isa 30:1 KJV]
Woe to the rebellious children, saith the LORD, that take counsel, but not of me; and that cover with a covering, but not of my spirit, that they may add sin to sin:

[Isa 30:2 KJV]
That walk to go down into Egypt, and have not asked at my mouth; to strengthen themselves in the strength of Pharaoh, and to trust in the shadow of Egypt!

[Isa 30:3 KJV]​

Therefore shall the strength of Pharaoh be your shame, and the trust in the shadow of Egypt your confusion.​

[Psa 44:19 KJV]
Though thou hast sore broken us in the place of dragons, and covered us with the shadow of death.

Jeremiah 5:21 KJV — Hear now this, O foolish people, and without understanding; which have eyes, and see not; which have ears, and hear not:

Revelation 18:4 KJV — And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.

[Revelation 18:23 KJV] And the light of a candle shall shine no more at all in thee; and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee: for thy merchants were the great men of the earth; for by thy sorceries were all nations deceived.

To dishonor their souls:

[Romans 1:24-25 KJV] Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:
[25] Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

death to their Relationship with GOD:

Romans 1:32 KJV — Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

Romans 1:7 KJV — ... beloved of God, called to be saints: ...

Saints don't sin ...and you can't Love The Truth ...if you don't have Knowlege of It.

Hebrews 10:26 KJV — For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,

2 Timothy 3:7-9 KJV — Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth. Now as Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses, so do these also resist the truth: men of corrupt minds, reprobate concerning the faith. But they shall proceed no further: for their folly shall be manifest unto all men, as theirs also was.

2 Thessalonians 2:10 KJV — And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.

[Romans 1:18 KJV] For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;

Matthew 25:41 KJV — Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:

Luke 21:35-36 KJV — For as a snare shall it come on all them that dwell on the face of the whole earth. Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.

Deuteronomy 11:28-29 KJV — And a curse, if ye will not obey the commandments of the LORD your God, but turn aside out of the way which I command you this day, to go after other gods, which ye have not known. And it shall come to pass, when the LORD thy God hath brought thee in unto the land whither thou goest to possess it, that thou shalt put the blessing upon mount Gerizim, and the curse upon mount Ebal.

Micah‬ ‭1‬:‭9
“For her wound is incurable; for it is come unto Judah; he is come unto the gate of my people, even to Jerusalem.”
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Lamentations 1:13-14 KJV — From above hath he sent fire into my bones, and it prevaileth against them: he hath spread a net for my feet, he hath turned me back: he hath made me desolate and faint all the day. The yoke of my transgressions is bound by his hand: they are wreathed, and come up upon my neck: he hath made my strength to fall, the Lord hath delivered me into their hands, from whom I am not able to rise up.

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The ground was cursed …meaning they were under delusion that they were in a Relationship with GOD:

Genesis 3:16–17 - Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee. 17. And unto Adam he said, Because thou hast hearkened unto the voice of thy wife, and hast eaten of the tree, of which I commanded thee, saying, Thou shalt not eat of it: cursed is the ground for thy sake; in sorrow shalt thou eat of it all the days of thy life;

[Jeremiah 42:18 KJV] For thus saith the LORD of hosts, the God of Israel; As mine anger and my fury hath been poured forth upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem; so shall my fury be poured forth upon you, when ye shall enter into Egypt: and ye shall be an execration, and an astonishment, and a curse, and a reproach; and ye shall see this place no more.

Psalm 109:29 KJV — Let mine adversaries be clothed with shame, and let them cover themselves with their own confusion, as with a mantle.​

The Blood Covenant Curse is delusion:​

Deuteronomy 29:19-21 KJV — And it come to pass, when he heareth the words of this curse, that he bless himself in his heart, saying, I shall have peace, though I walk in the imagination of mine heart, to add drunkenness to thirst: The LORD will not spare him, but then the anger of the LORD and his jealousy shall smoke against that man, and all the curses that are written in this book shall lie upon him, and the LORD shall blot out his name from under heaven. And the LORD shall separate him unto evil out of all the tribes of Israel, according to all the curses of the covenant that are written in this book of the law:

Jeremiah 13:13-14 KJV — Then shalt thou say unto them, Thus saith the LORD, Behold, I will fill all the inhabitants of this land, even the kings that sit upon David's throne, and the priests, and the prophets, and all the inhabitants of Jerusalem, with drunkenness. And I will dash them one against another, even the fathers and the sons together, saith the LORD: I will not pity, nor spare, nor have mercy, but destroy them.

Jeremiah 13:16-17 KJV — Give glory to the LORD your God, before he cause darkness, and before your feet stumble upon the dark mountains, and, while ye look for light, he turn it into the shadow of death, and make it gross darkness. But if ye will not hear it, my soul shall weep in secret places for your pride; and mine eye shall weep sore, and run down with tears, because the LORD'S flock is carried away captive.

[Jeremiah 13:15 KJV] Hear ye, and give ear; be not proud: for the LORD hath spoken.

Jeremiah 18:9-12 KJV — And at what instant I shall speak concerning a nation, and concerning a kingdom, to build and to plant it; If it do evil in my sight, that it obey not my voice, then I will repent of the good, wherewith I said I would benefit them. Now therefore go to, speak to the men of Judah, and to the inhabitants of Jerusalem, saying, Thus saith the LORD; Behold, I frame evil against you, and devise a device against you: return ye now every one from his evil way, and make your ways and your doings good. And they said, There is no hope: but we will walk after our own devices, and we will every one do the imagination of his evil heart.

[Jeremiah 18:15-17,20,22 KJV] Because my people hath forgotten me, they have burned incense to vanity, and they have caused them to stumble in their ways from the ancient paths, to walk in paths, in a way not cast up;
[16] To make their land desolate, and a perpetual hissing; every one that passeth thereby shall be astonished, and wag his head.
[17] I will scatter them as with an east wind before the enemy; I will shew them the back, and not the face, in the day of their calamity.
[20] Shall evil be recompensed for good? for they have digged a pit for my soul. Remember that I stood before thee to speak good for them, and to turn away thy wrath from them.
[22] Let a cry be heard from their houses, when thou shalt bring a troop suddenly upon them: for they have digged a pit to take me, and hid snares for my feet.

don't be clothed in delusion:

Psalm 109:17-22 KJV — As he loved cursing, so let it come unto him: as he delighted not in blessing, so let it be far from him. As he clothed himself with cursing like as with his garment, so let it come into his bowels like water, and like oil into his bones. Let it be unto him as the garment which covereth him, and for a girdle wherewith he is girded continually. Let this be the reward of mine adversaries from the LORD, and of them that speak evil against my soul. But do thou for me, O GOD the Lord, for thy name's sake: because thy mercy is good, deliver thou me. For I am poor and needy, and my heart is wounded within me.

Jeremiah 51:39 KJV — In their heat I will make their feasts, and I will make them drunken, that they may rejoice, and sleep a perpetual sleep, and not wake, saith the LORD.

[Romans 11:7-9 KJV] What then? Israel hath not obtained that which he seeketh for; but the election hath obtained it, and the rest were blinded
[8] (According as it is written, God hath given them the spirit of slumber, eyes that they should not see, and ears that they should not hear) unto this day.
[9] And David saith, Let their table be made a snare, and a trap, and a stumblingblock, and a recompence unto them:

 

[Reborn-Adopted]

more on hell​

hell, apparently isn't physical, just do a search for "lowest". hell is being set to not be able to know GOD in a Relationship.

Deuteronomy 32:20-22 KJV And he said, I will hide my face from them, I will see what their end shall be: for they are a very froward [[An Excuse]] generation, children in whom is no faith.
"No Faith"???
[21] They have moved me to jealousy with that which is not God; they have provoked me to anger with their vanities [[Emptiness]]: and I will move them to jealousy with those which are not a people; I will provoke them to anger with a foolish nation.
[22] For a fire is kindled in mine anger, and shall burn unto the lowest hell, and shall consume the earth with her increase, and set on fire the foundations of the mountains.

There is a “Lowest hell” and GOD’S Anger burned all the way to it?
That Scripture apparently already Happened as Gentiles have made Jews Jealous 2,000 years ago.

GOD Set Fire to the ways of having a Relationship with Him.

if hell is not being able to Know GOD in a Relationship, then the lake of fire is a permanent dead Relationship. those in the false church will never have Eternal LIFE until they Come out from her.

lowest = [H8482]

[Genesis 6:16 KJV] A window shalt thou make to the ark, and in a cubit shalt thou finish it above; and the door of the ark shalt thou set in the side thereof; with lower,[H8482] second, and third stories shalt thou make it.

[Job 41:24 KJV] His heart is as firm as a stone; yea, as hard as a piece of the nether[H8482] millstone.

[Psalm 63:9 KJV] But those that seek my soul, to destroy it, shall go into the lower parts[H8482] of the earth.

[Psalm 86:13 KJV] For great is thy mercy toward me: and thou hast delivered my soul from the lowest[H8482] hell.

[Psalm 88:6 KJV] Thou hast laid me in the lowest[H8482] pit, in darkness, in the deeps.

[Psalm 139:15 KJV] My substance was not hid from thee, when I was made in secret, and curiously wrought in the lowest parts[H8482] of the earth.

[Isaiah 44:23 KJV] Sing, O ye heavens; for the LORD hath done it: shout, ye lower parts[H8482] of the earth: break forth into singing, ye mountains, O forest, and every tree therein: for the LORD hath redeemed Jacob, and glorified himself in Israel.

[Lamentations 3:55 KJV] I called upon thy name, O LORD, out of the low[H8482] dungeon.

[Ezekiel 26:20 KJV] When I shall bring thee down with them that descend into the pit, with the people of old time, and shall set thee in the low parts[H8482] of the earth, in places desolate of old, with them that go down to the pit, that thou be not inhabited; and I shall set glory in the land of the living;

[Ezekiel 31:14 KJV] To the end that none of all the trees by the waters exalt themselves for their height, neither shoot up their top among the thick boughs, neither their trees stand up in their height, all that drink water: for they are all delivered unto death, to the nether parts[H8482] of the earth, in the midst of the children of men, with them that go down to the pit.

[Ezekiel 31:16 KJV] I made the nations to shake at the sound of his fall, when I cast him down to hell with them that descend into the pit: and all the trees of Eden, the choice and best of Lebanon, all that drink water, shall be comforted in the nether parts[H8482] of the earth.

[Ezekiel 31:18 KJV] To whom art thou thus like in glory and in greatness among the trees of Eden? yet shalt thou be brought down with the trees of Eden unto the nether parts[H8482] of the earth: thou shalt lie in the midst of the uncircumcised with them that be slain by the sword. This is Pharaoh and all his multitude, saith the Lord GOD.

[Ezekiel 32:18 KJV] Son of man, wail for the multitude of Egypt, and cast them down, even her, and the daughters of the famous nations, unto the nether parts[H8482] of the earth, with them that go down into the pit.

[Ezekiel 32:24 KJV] There is Elam and all her multitude round about her grave, all of them slain, fallen by the sword, which are gone down uncircumcised into the nether parts[H8482] of the earth, which caused their terror in the land of the living; yet have they borne their shame with them that go down to the pit.

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We are surrounded in spirits still in prison/hell:​

1 Peter 3:18-20 KJV — For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit: By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison; Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.

Paul knew they couldn't get out of hell until CHRIST Returned: They were in a dead Church/Relationship until then.​

[Philippians 1:20-24 KJV] According to my earnest expectation and my hope, that in nothing I shall be ashamed, but that with all boldness, as always, so now also Christ shall be magnified in my body, whether it be by life, or by death.
[21] For to me to live is Christ, and to die is gain.
[22] But if I live in the flesh, this is the fruit of my labour: yet what I shall choose I wot not.
[23] For I am in a strait betwixt two, having a desire to depart, and to be with Christ; which is far better:
[24] Nevertheless to abide in the flesh is more needful for you.

Jeremiah 32:38 KJV — And they shall be my people, and I will be their God:

[Revelation 21:7 KJV] He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.

2 Corinthians 6:16 KJV — And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.

Hebrews 8:10 KJV — For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:

Jeremiah 50:6 KJV — My people hath been lost sheep: their shepherds have caused them to go astray, they have turned them away on the mountains: they have gone from mountain to hill, they have forgotten their restingplace.

People know to be in His REST ...but they don't ask what It means ...or how to have It. REST is the opposite of hell/delusion:​

REST Comes from being His Slave ...a Yoke is still a Yoke:​

Galatians 5:1 KJV — Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage.

[Matthew 11:28-30 KJV] Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.
[29] Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.
[30] For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.

They didn't Obey GOD in the wilderness ...they were very aware He was Real ...they had a Pillar of smoke and fire every day with them:

Hebrews 3:17-19 KJV — But with whom was he grieved forty years? was it not with them that had sinned, whose carcases fell in the wilderness? And to whom sware he that they should not enter into his rest, but to them that believed not? So we see that they could not enter in because of unbelief.

Hebrews 4:1 KJV — Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it.

Hebrews 4:11 KJV — Let us labour therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief.

The Place of REST Is The Kingdom:

Acts 7:49 KJV — Heaven is my throne, and earth is my footstool: what house will ye build me? saith the Lord: or what is the place of my rest?

[Jeremiah 6:16 KJV] Thus saith the LORD, Stand ye in the ways, and see, and ask for the old paths, where is the good way, and walk therein, and ye shall find rest for your souls. But they said, We will not walk therein.

No Rest day or night ...no REST! What race are you claiming to still be in?​

Revelation 14:11 KJV — And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.

Sabbath Means REST.​

Adam was Kicked from The Relationship to till the ground. If you are back in The Garden you don't have to work to be Given Spiritual things. So It is every day now. It's not going to hurt anything if you set aside a day to focus only on GOD.

Did JESUS stop being The LORD of REST? JESUS Is my LORD, we, of course, can do Works for GOD on Sabbath. Paul didn't say to stop observing Sabbath all together. i don't think It has to be on saturdays, but i don't see anything wrong with dedicating a day to our LORD. don't get me wrong ...people going to a physical church building is a complete joke ...and not what i'm saying.

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Jeremiah 51:45 KJV — My people, go ye out of the midst of her, and deliver ye every man his soul from the fierce anger of the LORD.

Lamentations 1:18 KJV — The LORD is righteous; for I have rebelled against his commandment: hear, I pray you, all people, and behold my sorrow: my virgins and my young men are gone into captivity.

Lamentations 2:11 KJV — Mine eyes do fail with tears, my bowels are troubled, my liver is poured upon the earth, for the destruction of the daughter of my people; because the children and the sucklings swoon in the streets of the city.

Delivered from satan's church:​

Ezekiel 13:21 KJV — Your kerchiefs also will I tear, and deliver my people out of your hand, and they shall be no more in your hand to be hunted; and ye shall know that I am the LORD.​

They didn't literally live this long ...their Relationship attempts with GOD did ...that's why Enoch's attempt was Taken and put into The Living Relationship Authored by CHRIST.​

[Genesis 5:22-24 KJV] And Enoch walked with God after he begat Methuselah three hundred years, and begat sons and daughters:
[23] And all the days of Enoch were three hundred sixty and five years:
[24] And Enoch walked with God: and he was not; for God took him.

 

[Reborn-Adopted]

there is a city in hell ...cain built the first city of hell.​

it's a city of hell where they redefined GOD'S Definitions to mean The LORD Works for you: So they say JESUS was on a Cross to get your new sins forgiven.. it's impossible to have a city of unlimited forgiveness without CHRIST being a minister of sin.

the cursed reprobates under delusion in the free will Relationship: gog in a valley eastward of the sea. the sea isn't a literal body of water.

[Ezekiel 39:11 KJV] And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will give unto Gog a place there of graves in Israel, the valley of the passengers on the east of the sea: and it shall stop the noses of the passengers: and there shall they bury Gog and all his multitude: and they shall call it The valley of Hamongog.

ham(ongog) was an evil son of Noah. ham represented hell ...egypt. the city in hell (valley) ...opposite of a Mountain.

Pointing out reprobates:

[Ezekiel 39:15-16 KJV] And the passengers that pass through the land, when any seeth a man's bone, then shall he set up a sign by it, till the buriers have buried it in the valley of Hamongog.
[16] And also the name of the city shall be Hamonah. Thus shall they cleanse the land.

ham(onah)

gog valley of death:

Ezekiel 37:1 KJV — The hand of the LORD was upon me, and carried me out in the spirit of the LORD, and set me down in the midst of the valley which was full of bones,

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i wasn't militant against free will because i had a problem with choosing LIFE ...i had a problem with people that seem to think they can still choose satan's will of death. for you to claim that screams you don't have Eternal LIFE ...which means you don't know GOD. if you know GOD'S Definitions on your heart, then satan's side of free will (hell) has a Door Closed on it.

JESUS' Death and Resurrection Created a Door between The Two Trees. If you are Born of The SPIRIT, you walk through It and have Him Close It behind you.

Genesis 3:24 KJV — So he drove out the man; and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the tree of life.

If The Door is to the East, then The Tree of LIFE is accessed from The East Side of the free will Relationship. The Day Star Rises from The East.

Isaiah 60:1-2 KJV — Arise, shine; for thy light is come, and the glory of the LORD is risen upon thee. For, behold, the darkness shall cover the earth, and gross darkness the people: but the LORD shall arise upon thee, and his glory shall be seen upon thee.

Ezekiel 46:12 KJV — Now when the prince shall prepare a voluntary burnt offering or peace offerings voluntarily unto the LORD, one shall then open him the gate that looketh toward the east, and he shall prepare his burnt offering and his peace offerings, as he did on the sabbath day: then he shall go forth; and after his going forth one shall shut the gate.

cain was Kicked out to the East Side of the free will Relationship: ...wait, i think The Hebrew Suggests it was the East Side of Eden ...as in cain was still in Eden! he was still in the east side of the free will Relationship ...but it wasn't a good side to be in.

[Genesis 4:16 KJV] And Cain went out from the presence of the LORD, and dwelt in the land of Nod, on the east of Eden.


JESUS Is The Author of The Living Side of free will. The Author of FAITH.

It's an internal war:

[Ecclesiastes 10:2 KJV] A wise man's heart is at his right hand; but a fool's heart at his left.

Reigning with CHRIST has everything to do with Overcoming the death side of the free will Relationship.​

the death side of free will is delusion and a curse

[Isaiah 66:4 KJV] I also will choose their delusions, and will bring their fears upon them; because when I called, none did answer; when I spake, they did not hear: but they did evil before mine eyes, and chose that in which I delighted not.

hell is right now

the death side of free will is separation from GOD ...excuses to continue in that separation is delusion (imputed righteousness and unlimited forgiveness).

the broad way to destruction is not on The Living Side of The free will Relationship.

JESUS Has a Yoke for His Righteous ...a Yoke is what you put on Cattle for Farming. it's a question of who you are a slave to. the serpent knows if you are stuck on the death side of The Cross ...he is your master.​

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There were two Trees in the Middle of the free will Relationship for Adam. ...but if you are in The New Garden (New Jerusalem) ...Rev 22 Says there are only Trees of LIFE in it. Sooo, you are either in The Kingdom ...or you are outside with access to the tree of free will death.​

can you die if you are in a system with unlimited forgiveness?

Let me rephrase:

can you be on the death side of the free will Relationship if you are in a system of unlimited forgiveness?​

Genesis 3:4-5 KJV — And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die: For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.

the death side (hell) is those using what the serpent offered Eve ...imputed Righteousness and unlimited forgiveness. it says you won't die if you continue to have access to the death side.

did Adam die after eating? he sure did ...he joined the death side of free will. but most would have us believe the serpent was right and they didn't die. you now know what death is ...their game is over.

to say you still want access to the death side of free will is to say you still want the ability to redefine GOD'S Definitions.​

What is Salvation? It's the tree of knowledge being banned from your City/Kingdom. is it still your version of free will if satan's death half is outside your reach? You would now have Everlasting LIFE.

Knowing GOD is the same thing as death being out of reach.

protestant:

Death is never out of reach technically though. God allows for people to fall away, become a dead branch, or run out of oil.

Eternal LIFE Is Knowing Them ...if you are saying death is within reach ...then guess what?

John 17:3 KJV — And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.

The Opposite Happens after you Eat from The Tree of LIFE:​

Genesis 3:22 KJV — And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:​

1. You are not like GOD Defining your own definitions ...instead you Know Him through His Definitions.
2. You don't know good and evil anymore. You don't know satan's side of free will anymore (false church).
3. You can't put forth (reach) your hand for death fruit anymore ...because you now Live Forever.

To Eat from The Tree of LIFE Is to Know GOD ...and if you Know GOD, you Know The TRUTH:

Hebrews 10:26 KJV — For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,

If you Know The TRUTH, then you Know GOD'S Definitions and you have stopped redefining them ...eating death is redefining.

So, no, you can't fall away after The Tree of LIFE Became Available.

John 8:32 KJV — And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.

John 14:6 KJV — Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

John 8:44 KJV — Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

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This Says CHRIST (...not His FATHER) Breathed into Adam ...and suggests that Adam wasn't the first human on earth ...he was the first in Eden ...the free will Relationship.

Enoch 60:8
But the male is named Behemoth, who occupied with his breast a waste wilderness named †Dûidâin†, on the east of the garden where the elect and righteous dwell, where my grandfather was taken up, the seventh from Adam, the first man whom the Lord of Spirits created.

the broad gate is the broad gate to hell. The free will Relationship is about Measurment ...a scale of Life vs death. Judgment. are you using satan's side of free will?

It's a question of how much do you Know GOD vs how much do you know and use satan's excuses.

Isaiah 5:14 KJV — Therefore hell hath enlarged herself, and opened her mouth without measure: and their glory, and their multitude, and their pomp, and he that rejoiceth, shall descend into it.

Isaiah 5:16 KJV — But the LORD of hosts shall be exalted in judgment, and God that is holy shall be sanctified in righteousness.

Exodus 15:10 KJV — Thou didst blow with thy wind, the sea covered them: they sank as lead in the mighty waters.

Zechariah 5:6-11 KJV — And I said, What is it? And he said, This is an ephah that goeth forth. He said moreover, This is their resemblance through all the earth. And, behold, there was lifted up a talent of lead: and this is a woman that sitteth in the midst of the ephah. And he said, This is wickedness. And he cast it into the midst of the ephah; and he cast the weight of lead upon the mouth thereof. Then lifted I up mine eyes, and looked, and, behold, there came out two women, and the wind was in their wings; for they had wings like the wings of a stork: and they lifted up the ephah between the earth and the heaven. Then said I to the angel that talked with me, Whither do these bear the ephah? And he said unto me, To build it an house in the land of Shinar: and it shall be established, and set there upon her own base.

build a house/temple where? the death side of free will ...hell. Babylon is east, same direction cain was sent who built a city of hell.​

Genesis 11:1-2 KJV — And the whole earth was of one language, and of one speech. And it came to pass, as they journeyed from the east, that they found a plain in the land of Shinar; and they dwelt there.

The Opposite:
Genesis 28:17 KJV — And he was afraid, and said, How dreadful is this place! this is none other but the house of God, and this is the gate of heaven.

Matthew 16:18 KJV — And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

babel means gate of the gods ...gate to hell ...gate to the false church.

Genesis 11:4 KJV — And they said, Go to, let us build us a city and a tower, whose top may reach unto heaven; and let us make us a name, lest we be scattered abroad upon the face of the whole earth.

"top" means "head" ...head of the serpent.

Jacob's Ladder has a "Top" ...but This One is CHRIST As The HEAD.

today, just about every church is offering citizenship to a city of hell​

satan figured how to do charity and for his children to remain in hell. his broad gate has a system of imputed Righteousness and unlimited forgiveness, so he knew he had to make them feel like they were doing something right. you do charity to excuse your use of satan's death.

can you choose the death side of free will if you have unlimited forgiveness in place? are you saying you can but it doesn't count?
do you get what i'm asking here? if you are saying choosing death doesn't count, then you are saying you won't die ...remind you of something?

catholic:

I am saying that doing charity is not because of satan and us all wanting to sin. You want to say that a Christian can only be forgiven one time and then they become absolutely gloriously perfect and resurrected. You go on and say that but don't expect an actual Christian to validate that nonsense. I don't know exactly how many times Jesus will forgive a person, but I do know that He will likely forgive someone who is truly sorry and repentant. It's not my job to limit the mercy of God.

saying you can always be forgiven is saying you won't die. just say there is a limit. say it!!

catholic:

You oughta work at Guantanamo Bay. I don't know if there is a limit

I think it's about what is in a person's heart. Jesus knows what is in a person's heart.

you should be concerned what He Sees. You can't say it because you are the representation of what the serpent offered to Eve.

catholic:

I am not asking people to rebel against the wishes of God. I am trying to get people (you included) to do the things that God asks us to do in His Word.

you want people to do charity to keep themselves from dying ...that's your whole game right there.

satan likely said to Eve ...you won't die if you do charitable things for the community.

catholic:

don't you see that you simply can't stop accusing? We help people cease their sin all the time.

they can stop sin, but if they are still using your eyes ...they remain in delusion/hell ...satan still owns them. they still have your offer.

Genesis 3:7 KJV — And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together, and made themselves aprons.

they tried to cover themselves with charity while using the serpent's eyes.

[Revelation 22:2 KJV] In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, was there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations.

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the problem with your version of free will is that you want the death side to be within reach after you have Eternal LIFE. Eternal LIFE Voids your version of free will. the death side of the Judgment Scale gets buried with your old self. Only The Living Relationship Side is now Available.

the goal of the serpent is to say it can't be buried yet. and the only solution is unlimited forgiveness or imputed Righteousness. the serpent has convinced you that you won't die while using his broad gate of hell. hell is right now and excuses of death are from man's doctrine of the tree of knowledge. the serpent offered you a way to redefine GOD'S Definitions so you can claim you are not spiritually dead in GOD'S Relationship.

JESUS Put His death side of free will on a Cross. If we Believe we can put our own death side of free will on a Cross through The SON ...we will be Saved:

John 3:14-17 KJV — And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up: That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life. For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.

JESUS Is Breath ...satan is worthless hot air:
John 14:30 KJV — Hereafter I will not talk much with you: for the prince of this world cometh, and hath nothing in me.

[Philippians 3:8-11 KJV] Yea doubtless, and I count all things but loss for the excellency of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord: for whom I have suffered the loss of all things, and do count them but dung, that I may win Christ, 9 And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith: 10 That I may know him, and the power of his resurrection, and the fellowship of his sufferings, being made conformable unto his death; 11 If by any means I might attain unto the resurrection of the dead.

[Numbers 35:33-34 KJV] ...the land cannot be cleansed of the blood that is shed therein, but by the blood of him that shed it. 34 Defile not therefore the land which ye shall inhabit, wherein I dwell: for I the LORD dwell among the children of Israel.

 

[Reborn-Adopted]

the death side of free will (hell) is a city of false churches with the same goal. they want a Relationship with GOD on their own terms. that's the city cain built ...an artificial garden with a wall ...man made religion.

Genesis 4:16-17 KJV — And Cain went out from the presence of the LORD, and dwelt in the land of Nod, on the east of Eden. And Cain knew his wife; and she conceived, and bare Enoch: and he builded a city, and called the name of the city, after the name of his son, Enoch.

cain built his own Eve. The actual Eve wasn't Made from Adam's rib ...the Scripture Says he was split in two. Eve was Adam's "help" with Knowing GOD.​

Genesis 2:18 KJV — And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him.

Cities are always portrayed as women. is the woman you are with Faithful to The Relationship with GOD? or does she offer artificial Eternal LIFE?

cain's city is built on the tree of knowledge of good and evil. so it redefines GOD'S Definitions ...it isn't just one guy doing this ...the body of satan has a hierarchy that they agree to adhere to. the city culture and infrastructure rules over them in it's image. shaped by generations ..."church" fathers.

their city scales up the evil going on in a human heart. the hierarchy is to benefit a few at the expense of others ....the opposite of The Relationship with GOD. you want a City Built without human hands.

the core of their city falls if you tell them it's possible to have The Door Closed to the death side of free will ...future sin. so they tell you to sign up to unlimited forgiveness or imputed Righteousness. they don't care which of the two you pick as they know you are stuck with them with either.

the city tells you that you won't die if you continue in sin ...as long as you are using their death excuses. this is what the serpent offered Adam's Eve ...excuses in CHRIST'S NAME.

most never understand the difference between a death sin and a sin that leads to death. they need all sin to be equal for their con to work. for you to be a citizen of their hell city, you have to keep buying their cure to a disease they created.

the city knows GOD Said to be Perfect ...so they tell you that's something you can't achieve while living. they are keeping your old self alive in doing so.

Ezekiel 16:15 KJV — But thou didst trust in thine own beauty, and playedst the harlot because of thy renown, and pouredst out thy fornications on every one that passed by; his it was.

Luke 19:44 KJV — And shall lay thee even with the ground, and thy children within thee; and they shall not leave in thee one stone upon another; because thou knewest not the time of thy visitation.

they built an artificial garden of Eden with an artificial wall to the tree of knowledge of good and evil. so it's a city that looks like they gave up the death side of free will ...but it only looks that way.​

All humans have a death side of free will. many confuse this for sin nature. While CHRIST was here as a Man, He had a death side until Crucifixion. What do you think His temptation was about in the wilderness? it was His death side hassling Him ...satan's will. JESUS did not deal with that after Rising from the dead ...just like we don't after being Born of The SPIRIT. yes, temptation is still there ...but you are very aware what it is and automatically refuse it.

Romans 8:2 KJV — For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.

Romans 8:10 KJV — And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.

THE SPIRIT OF LIFE IS THE SON.​

John 6:63 KJV — It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.

Isaiah 38:16 KJV — O Lord, by these things men live, and in all these things is the life of my spirit: so wilt thou recover me, and make me to live.

Revelation 11:11 KJV — And after three days and an half the Spirit of life from God entered into them, and they stood upon their feet; and great fear fell upon them which saw them.

Job 10:12 KJV — Thou hast granted me life and favour, and thy visitation hath preserved my spirit.

Job 33:4 KJV — The Spirit of God hath made me, and the breath of the Almighty hath given me life.

[Romans 8:3-6 KJV] For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh: 4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. 5 For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit. 6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.

So ask yourself what It Means for satan's side of free will to be tossed into the lake of fire in Rev 20.

Rev is about the church ...so it's the churches free will side of death that gets tossed into the lake of fire. If it hasn't happened yet, it's about to.

Revelation 22:16 KJV — I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.

if your version of free will continues to include the death side ...you now have the lake of fire at your decision table. Nothing i ever say to you is going to pull you out of that.

you not only have The Door open to future sins ...you have It open to the lake of fire. that lake doesn't stay out The Door ...it comes in and takes over.

There is a lake of fire flood coming ...get that Door Closed!​

Hello, it's you that becomes Perfect at Rebirth:​

1 Corinthians 13:9-12 KJV — For we know in part, and we prophesy in part. But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away. When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things. For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known.

The Image Makes us Perfect:​

Hebrews 10:1 KJV — For the law having a shadow of good things to come, and not the very image of the things, can never with those sacrifices which they offered year by year continually make the comers thereunto perfect.

Are you Perfect as It Says you should be with It?​

[2 Corinthians 7:1 KJV] Having therefore these promises, dearly beloved, let us cleanse ourselves from all filthiness of the flesh and spirit, perfecting holiness in the fear of God.

JESUS Washed feet because they couldn't remain on The Narrow Path yet. what is your evil excuse?​

Matthew 7:13-14 KJV — Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

Matthew 5:48 KJV — Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.​

Colossians:1:28
We proclaim him, admonishing and teaching everyone with all wisdom, so that we may present everyone perfect in Christ.

You don't need Hope after you are Adopted:​

1 John:3.3
Everyone who has this hope in him purifies himself, just as he is pure.

Luke 6:40 (KJV)
The disciple is not above his master: but every one that is perfect shall be as his master.

Deuteronomy 18:13 KJV — Thou shalt be perfect with the LORD thy God.

Romans 12:2 KJV — And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.

You don't need hope of Becoming Perfect after The Door is Closed to the death side of free will.​

catholic:

by all means, close that door and never sin again! Amen! Just don't use that to deny the very possibility that you could ever be at fault or find in yourself some room for improvement. You, as a human being on planet earth, are not an entirely benevolent and perfect being despite your bold declarations.

what you are really saying is that we can't stop sinning.

If his goal in 1 Corinthians 13:9-12 was to become Perfect ...then we can stop sinning.

[Hebrews 6:1 KJV] Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God,

catholics have dead works thinking they can do that instead of real Repentance.

catholic:

you know my faith by it's works.

i know your faith in the death side of free will by claiming you won't die if you continue in dead works. unlimited forgiveness requires works.

catholic:

I am not against any general church, even those I disagree with on theological issues can be of great service to people and to the Lord.

GOD Told us cain built a city ... for a reason ...you are that city.

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the two monsters/beasts being eaten in Rev 19 (Behemoth and Leviathan): gog (sea?) and the land of magog ...is reprobates in hell.​

[Ezekiel 39:17-21 KJV] And, thou son of man, thus saith the Lord GOD; Speak unto every feathered fowl, and to every beast of the field, Assemble yourselves, and come; gather yourselves on every side to my sacrifice that I do sacrifice for you, even a great sacrifice upon the mountains of Israel, that ye may eat flesh, and drink blood.

[18] Ye shall eat the flesh of the mighty, and drink the blood of the princes of the earth, of rams, of lambs, and of goats, of bullocks, all of them fatlings of Bashan.

[19] And ye shall eat fat till ye be full, and drink blood till ye be drunken, of my sacrifice which I have sacrificed for you.

[20] Thus ye shall be filled at my table with horses and chariots, with mighty men, and with all men of war, saith the Lord GOD.

[21] And I will set my glory among the heathen, and all the heathen shall see my judgment that I have executed, and my hand that I have laid upon them.

[Isaiah 27:1-3 KJV] In that day the LORD with his sore and great and strong sword shall punish leviathan the piercing serpent, even leviathan that crooked serpent; and he shall slay the dragon that is in the sea.
[2] In that day sing ye unto her, A vineyard of red wine.
[3] I the LORD do keep it; I will water it every moment: lest any hurt it, I will keep it night and day.
[Isaiah 27:6 KJV] He shall cause them that come of Jacob to take root: Israel shall blossom and bud, and fill the face of the world with fruit.
[Isaiah 27:13 KJV] And it shall come to pass in that day, that the great trumpet shall be blown, and they shall come which were ready to perish in the land of Assyria, and the outcasts in the land of Egypt, and shall worship the LORD in the holy mount at Jerusalem.

catholic:

What a miserable perspective. Why not try to help make things better, as Jesus always did and instructed us to do?

you have a city of very thirsty people:
Luke 16:24 KJV — And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.

gog is gentiles, the sea
magog is those in man's religion, the earth
they make the city of hell in the valley

[Galatians 3:28-29 KJV] There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
[29] And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.
[Romans 10:12 KJV] For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him.

a city in a valley is the opposite of GOD'S City on a Mountain. hell vs heaven. hell's city (earth and sea) is pretending to be GOD'S Garden. they think they built a replacement that no one would notice. they turned the tree of knowledge into a tree of artificial life.

Revelation 12:11-12 KJV — And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death. Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.

The Feast of Trumpets is today ...can you hear my warning? hell is right now all around you ...and most are already in it.

 

[Reborn-Adopted]

Back to LIFE​

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If CHRIST'S SPIRIT Is In you, you have Life because Righteousness is Knowing GOD:

Romans 8:10 KJV — And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.

The Law of LIFE Is Righteousness ...which is Knowing GOD'S Definitions. You are only free from the Letter of The Law because It's on your Heart now!!!​

Romans 8:2 KJV — For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.

You don't have His Righteousness unless you Know His Definitions:​

Romans 8:4 KJV — That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

And if you Know The TRUTH:

Hebrews 10:26 KJV — For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,

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So you think Paul is Saying Here to "Believe on Him" Means to acknowledge He is real? you redefined what Belief Is:

1 Timothy 1:15-16 KJV — This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief. Howbeit for this cause I obtained mercy, that in me first Jesus Christ might shew forth all longsuffering, for a pattern to them which should hereafter believe on him to life everlasting.

Life Everlasting is Knowing GOD:

John 17:3 KJV — And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.

The couldn't Know GOD until He Returned:

Luke 18:30 KJV — Who shall not receive manifold more in this present time, and in the world to come life everlasting.

[Daniel 12:2 KJV] And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.

They couldn't have a Completed FAITH until He Returned:

John 6:47 KJV — Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me hath everlasting life.

John 12:50 KJV — And I know that his commandment is life everlasting: whatsoever I speak therefore, even as the Father said unto me, so I speak.

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protestant:

Abraham believed God and it was credited to him as righteousness. Same for us.

It was Credited to him that he Knew GOD.

protestant:

Genesis 15:6 And he believed in the LORD, and He accounted it to him for righteousness.

To Believe in GOD Is to Know Him ...Righteousness.

The Word "Faith" in Greek means "Loyalty" ...Abraham was Loyal ...He Knew GOD'S Definitions. You can't be Righteous redefining what should now be on your Heart.

protestant:

Loyalty to the Lord is important for sure that is why we must remain loyal and endure to the end.

But we are saved by Grace through faith. Our faith/belief is credited to us as righteousness. The Holy Spirit fills the true believer, and we learn more and more about God through His Spirit. When we love God with all our heart, soul, mind, and strength we are known by God as it is written.

We are Saved by Grace through Faith ...JESUS Is The Author of Faith. You made your own definition of Faith to live in sin.

Faith to you is saying with your lips that CHRIST Is real ...it's a con job. You know there is more to It than that.

Grace has nothing to do with continuing in sin ...like it's some magic sin covering. Grace shows you your sin ...so you stop doing it. Faith is being in The LAMB'S Book of LIFE ...and if you are not Righteous ...you don't have LIFE.​

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Rebirth in The OT:​

Ezekiel 36:27 KJV — And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.

Ezekiel 37:6 KJV — And I will lay sinews upon you, and will bring up flesh upon you, and cover you with skin, and put breath in you, and ye shall live; and ye shall know that I am the LORD.

The Four Winds are CHRIST'S Breath:​

Ezekiel 37:9 KJV — Then said he unto me, Prophesy unto the wind, prophesy, son of man, and say to the wind, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Come from the four winds, O breath, and breathe upon these slain, that they may live.

 

[Reborn-Adopted]

the city of hell has different flavors:​

you were not Born of The SPIRIT if satan was able to convince you there wouldn't be a consequence.​

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this image is just another trick of satan to make you think his false church isn't everywhere. he actually wants you to think there is unlimited forgiveness ...because that's what the serpent offered Eve.​

catholic:

I like this post quite a lot! I would caution, however, against denying the sin exists as well as your usual insistence that a person can only be forgiven once. That leads to not recognizing sin, as well as it causes people to give up in despair and not even seek forgiveness, which is necessary for true repentance.

you are always so worried about people giving up your city of hell. it's like the frying pan being worried some of the food is jumping into the flames.

catholic:

yes, I don't want you to push people into the flames or make people jump into them.

good grief dude, you in the frying pan city are not in a Living Relationship with GOD.

catholic:

that's your weirdo declaration

so what are you in a relationship with? death provided that city you are in.

Genesis 2:17 KJV — But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.

your frying pan city is the death side of free will.

catholic:

There is no such thing as a frying pan city ...and your whimsical notions of what free will is are all over the place. Now that you've done a 180° and have gone from "satan's free will" to "the death side of the free will relationship", I don't disagree with you about that. I have always taught that we must be willing to choose to align our wills with God or suffer the consequences.

the frying pan city is made of CHRIST being your servant ...but ohhh, you better be as respectful as possible about it ...like worship His Dead Corpse over it.

catholic:

thinking you are just hangry.

We serve all people in Christ's name and offer ourselves as sacrifice, just as he sacrificed Himself for our redemption.

you defend absolute free will because your frying pan city is made of the death side ...the broad gate. what good is your doctrine if your foundation isn't death?

catholic:

I don't defend free will; I deal with the reality of our freedom of choice and will, and it's consequences. "My doctrine" is normal, historical, interdenominational, universal Christian doctrine. Nothing personal or idiosyncratic about it.

is free will only about choosing Life or death?

your doctrine of death was formed by church fathers. just because they called themselves Christians didn't mean they were not working for satan. it's called a tree of knowledge for a reason. a tree of handed down doctrine to excuse a dead relationship to GOD.

catholic:

free will is a responsibility we have to make any and all choices that we must make in our lives, undetermined for us by an outside agent. It's an admission that we are accountable for our actions and the consequences of them.

you defend absolute free will then ...it's not in Scripture. you do this because you are trying to divert attention from your free will death.

you are still not getting it. your doctrine of unlimited forgiveness is literally what the tree of knowledge is.

JESUS Gave up His Right to the death side of free will when He allowed them to put Him on a Cross ...He definitely didn't have a free will on The Cross.​

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JESUS Overcame the head of the serpent before Getting on His Own Cross. His Death and Resurrection without the death side of free will Made It Possible for others to do It. They couldn't do It Permanently until He Returned.​

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your church is built on Him not Returning yet ...because you don't want your own personal Cross to be Permanent yet. you can't sell the death side frying pan of free will death if It's Possible to be Perfect today.​

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calvinist:

The bible teaches Eternal Security
It is God who promises it
> Not we who promise him

Inheritance is not a license to sin.​

again: "you were not Born of The SPIRIT if satan was able to convince you there wouldn't be a consequence."

calvinist:

How St**** Do You Have To Be To Reject OSAS? -------- The gospel is simple. --Jesus Christ, who is God's Son, died on the cross for the sins of every person. He was buried and rose again three days later. --Eternal life is a free gift … received, not earned—by faith alone in Christ alone. --Jesus said in John 6:47. Verily, verily, I say unto you, he that believeth on me hath everlasting life. --Once saved, always saved. Salvation can never be lost! --Trust Jesus alone and forever live.

All your sins are Forgiven ...until you join Him on a Cross:

[Gal 2:17-18 KJV] 17 But if, while we seek to be justified by Christ, we ourselves also are found sinners, is therefore Christ the minister of sin? God forbid. 18 For if I build again the things which I destroyed, I make myself a transgressor.

[2Pe 1:9 KJV] 9 But he that lacketh these things is blind, and cannot see afar off, and hath forgotten that he was purged from his OLD sins.

Romans 3:25 KJV — Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are PAST, through the forbearance of God;

cavinist:

ALL sins past, present & future are forgiven not just PAST sins
How Romans is taken out of context to falsely teach only past sins of a believer are forgiven...God is eternal and all our sins were future when He died on the cross for us.

oh, you can't read Gal 2:17-18 then. Wow, i didn't realize how prominent calvinists reveal the Trinity con.

JESUS didn't Die for your personal and individual sins ...good grief you monsters. Hello, He Was The Sacrifice so that we could stop our sins. No time traveling required.

Being Washed in His Blood doesn't mean JESUS was injected with your past sins. you all have turned JESUS into a sci fi movie.

JESUS Sanctified Himself on The Cross ...He didn't have your rotten sins. He Bore separation from GOD for us ...aka sin. He was Forsaken on The Cross ...remember?

[John 17:19 KJV] And for their sakes I sanctify myself, that they also might be sanctified through the truth.

If you are Sanctified through The Truth ...guess what else Applies to you?

[Hebrews 10:26 KJV] For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,

calvinist:

What About Hebrews 6?
Now we’re ready to look at Hebrews 6:4-6, a passage so often cited in opposition to Eternal Security. Please remember that the entire letter was written to Jewish believers who were being enticed back into keeping the Law, so the context is New Covenant vs. Old. (The reason this letter is in the Bible is that this is still going on today, only now it concerns both Jews and Gentiles.) In Hebrews 6:1-3 the writer said that he was now going beyond the elementary teachings concerning salvation and in verse 9 he confirmed that he’d been talking about things that accompany salvation. That tells us that verses 4-6 are not related to salvation (Union) but to things that accompany it (Fellowship). We know this because the idea that a believer could do something to irretrievably lose his salvation is in direct contradiction to the clear promise that the Holy Spirit is sealed within us from the very first moment of belief until the day of our redemption.

oh, The Book of Hebrews doesn't apply to us. ::rolls eyes::

John Calvin had his friend slow burned at the steak with green wood ...why? because the friend gave him notes on his doctrine. bad fruit tree.
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Full Preterist:

You sure give “ Satan” a lot of power and fame! Paul said this 2000 years ago:
Romans 16:20 And the God of peace shall crush Satan under your feet SHORTLY.....
Did Paul lie?

That's about Overcoming satan's side of free will.

Full Preterist:

define
“Satan”.

what satan always is ...the death side of free will.

Full Preterist:

Where do you find that definition here?

Luke 10:18 And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven.

::rolls eyes:: JESUS was Seeing the people He Sent out Overcoming death.

Full Preterist:

So the adversary was not rebellious men falling from their authority in His old Covenant kingdom?

Where do you think JESUS Sent these men? oh, right, you think Jews went out to the wilderness to whisper in JESUS' Ear.

Full Preterist:

Why do you think these guys were so angry?

Rev. 11: 14 The second woe is past; and, behold, the third woe cometh quickly.
15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.
16 And the four and twenty elders, which sat before God on their seats, fell upon their faces, and worshipped God,
17 Saying, We give thee thanks, O LORD God Almighty, which art, and wast, and art to come; because thou hast taken to thee thy great power, and hast reigned.
18 And THE NATIONS WERE ANGRY, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that THEY should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest DESTROY them which DESTROY the earth.

lol, That's 70 A.D. ...pretty sure they were mad about It.

Full Preterist:

What did Paul say Jesus had to DO before He delivered up the Kingdom to the Father and glorified Him?

1 Cor. 15: 24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down ALL RULE and ALL AUTHORITY and POWER.
25 For he must reign, till he hath put ALL ENEMIES under his feet.
26 The LAST ENEMY THAT SHALL BE DESTROYED IS DEATH .
27 For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him.
28 And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.

Give us The Way to stay on a Cross ...If you are not Walking in The SPIRIT ...Born of The SPIRIT ...then you have not Overcome death.

Luke 16:16 KJV — The law and the prophets were until John: since that time the kingdom of God is preached, and every man presseth into it.

Galatians 3:23 KJV — But before faith came, we were kept under the law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed.

 

[Reborn-Adopted]

THE TRUTH​

JESUS' Physical Death was with the death side of free will ...the tree of knowledge. He didn't have the literal sins you did in your past. JESUS was Forsaken (separation) on His Cross and then He Physically Died. JESUS was in the belly of the earth (hell), right before He Died. He was separated from The Relationship with His FATHER ...sin. JESUS Died to Fix the world's sin ...separation from The FATHER.

Matthew 12:40 KJV — For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.

Jonah was in hell also!!!

Jonah 1:15 KJV — So they took up Jonah, and cast him forth into the sea: and the sea ceased from her raging.

Jonah 2:4-5 KJV — Then I said, I am cast out of thy sight; yet I will look again toward thy holy temple. The waters compassed me about, even to the soul: the depth closed me round about, the weeds were wrapped about my head.

JESUS had to Do both, Give Up the death side of free will and be there also (hell is separation).

How do you Give up the death side of free will? You Get On a Cross. JESUS Told us to Follow Him Getting on a Cross:

John 21:19 KJV — This spake he, signifying by what death he should glorify God. And when he had spoken this, he saith unto him, Follow me.

John 13:36 KJV — Simon Peter said unto him, Lord, whither goest thou? Jesus answered him, Whither I go, thou canst not follow me now; but thou shalt follow me afterwards.

JESUS was in hell when He didn't belong there ...this is Key to How He Broke through satan's city of death. There is now A WAY to leave the dead Relationship to GOD. Victory Over death, JESUS Crushing the head of the serpent.

JESUS Has The Keys of hell and death.

Revelation 1:18 KJV — I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.

JESUS Knocks on your Door ...He has The Keys to open That Door and Close It behind you.

JESUS Was Saying His Kingdom was going to be Heaven on earth: ...no death side of free will:

Matthew 16:19 KJV — And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.

JESUS Gave up His death side of free will to be on a Cross. Just like we have to do.

To Sanctify yourself is to give up the death side of free will.

[John 17:19 KJV] And for their sakes I sanctify myself, that they also might be sanctified through the truth.​

If you are Sanctified through The Truth ...guess what else Applies to you?

[Hebrews 10:26 KJV] For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,

Something Happened When He Returned 2,000 years ago. Why Only Then could people have Victory over free will death?

because the abomination of desolation was about the death side of free will. it was a system setup to excuse free will death ...a city of hell ...catholics.

your church is built on Him not Returning yet ...because you don't want your own personal Cross to be Permanent yet. you can't sell the death side frying pan of free will death if It's Possible to be Perfect today.

[Hebrews 10:1 KJV] For the law having a shadow of good things to come, and not the very image of the things, can never with those sacrifices which they offered year by year continually make the comers thereunto perfect.

John 17:14 KJV — I have given them thy word; and the world hath hated them, because they are not of the world, even as I am not of the world.

John 17:24 KJV — Father, I will that they also, whom thou hast given me, be with me where I am; that they may behold my glory, which thou hast given me: for thou lovedst me before the foundation of the world.

John 17:25 KJV — O righteous Father, the world hath not known thee: but I have known thee, and these have known that thou hast sent me.

 

[Reborn-Adopted]

most don't Worship the JESUS i know. most have let the false church hand you a Jesus that was Sacrificed for your personal sins ...most never stop with the imputed Righteousness nonsense.

catholic:

Of course Jesus was the ultimate, blameless sacrifice. He atoned for all of the sins of humankind.

Doesn't Say that. you are injecting your personal sins into it ...because you are wicked.

catholic:

"Jesus Christ the righteous. He is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the sins of the whole world." 1 John 2; 1-2

oh, the 616 Verse ...of course you would (number of the beast). That Verse supports me ...not you. It even Says general sins, right in The Verse. ...Not only our sins But...

If It wasn't about only their sins ...but the sins of the whole world ...that's as general as you can get. you can't Cover the sins of the world without It being general.

What did you Repent of if your doctrine includes imputed righteousness? your doctrine includes JESUS Dying for your personal sins ...you didn't Repent.​

You want to Repent? The Bible Told you How:

protestant:

[2 Corinthians 5:21 KJV] For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.

you don't know the Greek of that Verse ...It doesn't say anything like that. i'm not kidding ...it's one of the most messed up translated Verses there is.

protestant:

Do you take credit for your righteousness?

you are saying the only way to be Righteous is if JESUS Died for personal sins?

the definition of a protestant is to say JESUS had to die for their personal sins in order for them to be Righteous in GOD'S Eyes. it's an excuse to remain in hell's city of the death side of free will.

Righteousness is The Crown of those that Overcame the death side of free will.

you can't Overcome without Him Closing The Door behind you.

no ...i'm nothing without THE VINE. Your point is to say we can't Save ourselves ...still doesn't mean He Died for your personal sins ...actually, it shows you are fundamentally wrong about The Test we are in. you either stay on your own Cross ...or you don't.

protestant:

And if you have not received the death of Jesus Christ as the atoning sacrifice for your own sins, you will die in your sins.

We Wash in His Blood for personal past sins ...but realizing this ...ends your support of future sin forgiveness.

i didn't realize how evil this comment was until i read it again later. she is saying we have to receive JESUS' Dead Corpse ...she is a straight up a vampire offering eternal artificial life ...future sin forgiveness.


We don't Receive anything from CHRIST on The Cross. you don't get His Living Blood from His Resurrection unless He Sees you Remain on your own Cross.

His Death is not His Blood. He Died to Fix the world's separation from The FATHER. you don't get His Blood unless He Sees you Remain on your Cross.

protestant:

Unless you receive the propitiation of Jesus Christ for your own sins, you will die in them.

Did JESUS Go to The Temple with His Blood, before or After He Rose? Think.


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Do you think we Wash in His Blood from The Cross and not His Living Resurrected Blood? do you understand how wicked you are to think JESUS had your personal sins with Him on His Cross?​

Philippians 3:10 KJV — That I may know him, and the power of his resurrection, and the fellowship of his sufferings, being made conformable unto his death;

JESUS' Death was not for The Forgiveness of sins. It was to become separated from The FATHER ...This had to be Done so That we also could Overcome the death side of free will.​

Colossians 1:22 KJV — In the body of his flesh through death, to present you holy and unblameable and unreproveable in his sight:

It's JESUS' Risen Life That Gets your past sins Forgiven. His Blood Is Living LIFE.​

Revelation 19:13 KJV — And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.

What we are Clothed in is a big deal.

2 Corinthians 5:2-4 KJV — For in this we groan, earnestly desiring to be clothed upon with our house which is from heaven: If so be that being clothed we shall not be found naked. For we that are in this tabernacle do groan, being burdened: not for that we would be unclothed, but clothed upon, that mortality might be swallowed up of life.

We have a Saviour that Saves us from hell's city. that city is right now ...so you either stopped using the death side of free will ...or you didn't.

What Part of This sounds like His Dead Blood is what Forgives sin?:​

It wasn't a Covenant to continue in sin.

1 Corinthians 11:25-30 KJV — After the same manner also he took the cup, when he had supped, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood: this do ye, as oft as ye drink it, in remembrance of me. For as often as ye eat this bread, and drink this cup, ye do shew the Lord's death till he come. Wherefore whosoever shall eat this bread, and drink this cup of the Lord, unworthily, shall be guilty of the body and blood of the Lord. But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of that bread, and drink of that cup. For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord's body. For this cause many are weak and sickly among you, and many sleep.

[Hebrews 10:14 KJV] For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified.

[John 17:19 KJV] And for their sakes I sanctify myself, that they also might be sanctified through the truth.

If you are Sanctified through The Truth ...guess what else Applies to you?

[Hebrews 10:26 KJV] For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,

[Hebrews 9:16-18 KJV] For where a testament is, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator.
[17] For a testament is of force after men are dead: otherwise it is of no strength at all while the testator liveth.
[18] Whereupon neither the first testament was dedicated without blood.

protestant:

What you post has nothing to do with the atoning sacrifice of Jesus Christ for your sins which you have not received.

JESUS was Secured Eternal Redemption Power ...we were not: And JESUS Did This After He Rose from the dead. WE HAVE TO REMAIN ON OUR OWN CROSS ...there is no getting around It.

Hebrews 9:12
He entered once for all into the holy places, not by means of the blood of goats and calves but by means of his own blood, thus securing an eternal redemption.

The New Testament is not sin Forgiveness.


[Hebrews 9:15 KJV] And for this cause he is the mediator of the new testament, that by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first testament, they which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance.

is your knee-jerk reaction to me saying JESUS didn't have your sins on His Cross ...to say we can't Save ourselves? it shows you are fundamentally wrong about The Test we are in. you either stay on your own Cross ...or you don't.

do you realize you are explaining why you don't have to be on your own Cross?

protestant:

Matthew 26:28 This is My blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins.

That's not the Same Blood we Wash in. The Blood Covenant was with Dead Blood and It wasn't a license to continue in sin.

The Next Verse has New Blood:​

Matthew 26:29 KJV — But I say unto you, I will not drink henceforth of this fruit of the vine, until that day when I drink it new with you in my Father's kingdom.

Being Reconciled is not the same as being Saved (Delivered). JESUS' Death was separation from His FATHER so that we could come out of the relationship with satan. JESUS Made a Bridge to Leave hell's city. Mediator = BRIDGE. It wasn't Forgiveness of sins, It was Access to leave sin if you wanted.​

Romans 5:10 KJV — For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.

If you Cross The Bridge ...you used your own personal Cross. You would now be Washed in His Living Resurrected Blood.​

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It's A VINE Because IT'S JESUS' Veins.​

i do wonder of they were stuck on The Bridge until He Returned.

protestant:

Colossians 2:14 KJV — Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;

And if you deny that Jesus Christ died for your sins, you are none of His.

It's still about general sins.

JESUS was The Fulfillment of Mosaic Law ...He Nailed It to His Cross ...your sin is not from Mosaic Law ...your sin is from The Law of LIFE.

maybe you are still under The Law of sin and death ...the death part ...you worship it.

 

[Reborn-Adopted]

You will have a Final Judgment because you refused to give up satan’s artificial narrow way that includes his death side of free will. You refused The Bridge (The Actual Narrow Way).​

There is another book ...a book of those that remained in satan's city of hell and didn't get on The Bridge (Your own Cross):

Revelation 20:12 KJV — And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.

The other book contains the lives lived under the lie told to Eve …that their old selves didn’t have to die ...that they didn't have to get on A Cross themselves:

[Genesis 2:17 KJV] But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.
[Genesis 3:4 KJV] And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:

the broad way to destruction is you saying JESUS had your sins on His Cross.​

Hello, you excused away getting on your own Cross. Get Fire Baptized next to Him like the thief.​

The Promise of GOD Is LIFE. If you become Adopted after HE Returned then you have Everlasting LIFE.​

protestant robot response:

Glad tidings of the Kingdom of God that God gives eternal life to all who believe in Jesus Christ who came, died, and rose again on the third day. Anyone who calls on the name of the Lord shall be saved. The Good News that Jesus Christ brings is eternal life in Him. He fills the true believer in Him with His Spirit and leads them to walk after His Spirit and not their flesh. The Holy Spirit produces fruit in the true believer by which we may know we are saved as the Spirit is the witness that we are children of God. All who put their trust in Him shall never be brought to shame; and He will never blot their name out of the Lamb's Book of Life.

Did JESUS have your sins on His Cross?

protestant:

Read your Bible. The scriptures are clear as to what Jesus Christ did on the cross.

you are the broad way

protestant:

No Jesus Christ is the Narrow Way. Anyone who is found in Him will never be brought to shame. Anyone trusting in Him and walking in His Spirit is on the Narrow Way.

JESUS Is The Advocate ...does an advocate in court have the criminal charge of his defendants? No, JESUS didn't have your sins on His Cross ...He can put a Word in for you ...That's different.

protestant:

The Narrow Way means that you believe in Jesus Christ's atoning sacrifice and resurrection on the third day, die to self, and walk in His Spirit. We deny ourselves and take up our cross daily seeking to only do God's will and not our own.

oh, so we believe JESUS had our sins on His Cross ...you are the antichrist.

catholic:

you are basing your court analogy on man's tree of knowledge of good and evil, of course. Repent

...is there a Judge Involved?

catholic:

you are assuming that God's justice is the same as U.S. court system justice. You don't agree with substitutional(ary) atonement and I can understand your concerns, but that's Christianity, buddy. Love it or leave it.

you never Entered It

protestant:

We are judged by what is written in the books. If you are not trusting in the propitiation of Jesus Christ, then you are not born again by His Spirit and have not been baptized by His Spirit. And that would mean your name is not written in the Lamb's Book of Life which has always been my concern for you.

JESUS doesn't Atone for atheists ...you actually had to get on The Bridge. you are saying everyone is Covered ...it's ridiculous... you are completely evil.

catholic:

I have lived a life of extreme Christian practice in a traditional community practicing 24/7 devotion and service for the last * years. You, on the other hand, have merely typed condemnation and accusation while watching YouTube videos and apparently avoiding internet porn. Spare me the accusations that I am not a Christian.

Did JESUS have your sins on His Cross? yes? then your chores were not Ordered by GOD. you live to excuse not being on a Cross.

protestant:

You don't know the Word of God nor the scriptures of the Bible. You state // Jesus doesn't atone for atheists...//

1 Timothy 4:10 For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.

He did Atone for anyone THAT GETS ON THE BRIDGE!!!​

your snake father changed the Definition of Belief. you don't Believe unless you are on The Bridge ...aka your own Cross.

you don't have an Advocate unless you have a Mediator ...and you don't have One unless you Lift JESUS UP ...aka ...being on your own Cross.​

protestant:

We are saved by Grace through Faith as it is written. You keep missing that simple point. Once you have true faith in the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ, He fills you with His Spirit. The Spirit makes you a new creation in Christ Jesus--born again by the Spirit. The Spirit leads to all Righteousness in the Way of Jesus Christ. We can't possibly do this in our own ability. We must be born again by the Spirit in order to deny ourself, pick up our cross, and follow Him. That is what walking in the Spirit and not the flesh mean.

I'm not on the bridge. I'm in the Bridge--Jesus Christ, and He is in me. We sup together, I hear His voice, and I am already seated in heavenly places as it is written.

you can't hear me and i'm pretty sure you never will.

the bronze serpent on a pole ...was us getting on our own Cross! It's The Mediator Bridge to GOD.​

protestant:

The serpent Moses lifted up which kept the people who looked at it from dying was a foreshadow of Jesus Christ to come.

ohh, JESUS was a snake ...sure why not /sarcasm.

 

[Reborn-Adopted]

Repenting Is getting on your own Cross. This Is The Narrow Bridge of Faith that JESUS Authored. saying JESUS had your personal sins on His Cross is saying you don't have to have FAITH.​

JESUS' Cross Is The Door to The Faith Bridge that He Authored. You are not Walking through It unless you Followed Him and got on your own Cross. flesh and blood do not inherit ...so your old self has to be on a Cross for you to be Born of The SPIRIT and Walk past the cherubims guarding The Bridge.​

Psalm 99:1-5 KJV — The LORD reigneth; let the people tremble: he sitteth between the cherubims; let the earth be moved. The LORD is great in Zion; and he is high above all the people. Let them praise thy great and terrible name; for it is holy. The king's strength also loveth judgment; thou dost establish equity, thou executest judgment and righteousness in Jacob. Exalt ye the LORD our God, and worship at his footstool; for he is holy.

Worshiping JESUS' Feet is Worshiping The Narrow Way ...The Bridge ...His Path.​

Genesis 3:24 KJV — So he drove out the man; and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the tree of life.

you don't have Faith if you are saying JESUS had your personal sins on His Cross. You can't eat from The Tree of LIFE while using satan's excuses to not be on your own Cross:

Genesis 3:22 KJV — And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:

Isaiah 26:17-18 KJV — Like as a woman with child, that draweth near the time of her delivery, is in pain, and crieth out in her pangs; so have we been in thy sight, O LORD. We have been with child, we have been in pain, we have as it were brought forth wind; we have not wrought any deliverance in the earth; neither have the inhabitants of the world fallen.

why do you think catholics parade around JESUS' Dead Corpse? it's you that pierced Him by saying He had your personal sins on His Cross. your church is founded by catholics:​

Isaiah 27:1-3 KJV — In that day the LORD with his sore and great and strong sword shall punish leviathan the piercing serpent, even leviathan that crooked serpent; and he shall slay the dragon that is in the sea. In that day sing ye unto her, A vineyard of red wine. I the LORD do keep it; I will water it every moment: lest any hurt it, I will keep it night and day.

protestant:

1 Corinthians 15
1 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;
2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.
3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures.

Titus 3:4-7 But when the kindness and the love of God our Savior toward man appeared, not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to His mercy He saved us, through the washing of regeneration and renewing of the Holy Spirit, whom He poured out on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Savior, that having been justified by His grace we should become heirs according to the hope of eternal life.

Hebrews 10:14 For by one offering He has perfected forever those who are being sanctified.

He Died for sins ...in general. you inject your own personal sins into It.

 

[Reborn-Adopted]

"This is Jezebel’s name in Hebrew

"

Yes, that is funny ...but also sad in what GOD was actually telling us about the sea of dead beats we have today.

what is an island but a mountain in the sea?​

Revelation 17:15 KJV — And he saith unto me, The waters which thou sawest, where the harlot sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues.

a garbage mountain "Lifting itself up into heaven."

garbage mountain of society (island in the sea of hell) ...it's the false church committing adultery against The Marriage Relationship with GOD.​

Jonah 2:5-6 KJV — The waters compassed me about, even to the soul: the depth closed me round about, the weeds were wrapped about my head. I went down to the bottoms of the mountains; the earth with her bars was about me for ever: yet hast thou brought up my life from corruption, O LORD my God.

Isaiah 13:22 KJV — And the wild beasts of the islands shall cry in their desolate houses, and dragons in their pleasant palaces: and her time is near to come, and her days shall not be prolonged.

Jeremiah 50:39 KJV — Therefore the wild beasts of the desert with the wild beasts of the islands shall dwell there, and the owls shall dwell therein: and it shall be no more inhabited for ever; neither shall it be dwelt in from generation to generation.

Revelation 6:14 KJV — And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places.

Revelation 16:20 KJV — And every island fled away, and the mountains were not found.




Psalm 95
1 Oh come, let us sing to the Lord!
Let us shout joyfully to the Rock of our salvation.
2 Let us come before His presence with thanksgiving;
Let us shout joyfully to Him with psalms.
3 For the Lord is the great God,
And the great King above all gods.
4 In His hand are the deep places of the earth;
The heights of the hills are His also.
5 The sea is His, for He made it;
And His hands formed the dry land.
6 Oh come, let us worship and bow down;
Let us kneel before the Lord our Maker.
7 For He is our God,
And we are the people of His pasture,
And the sheep of His hand.
Today, if you will hear His voice:
8 “Do not harden your hearts, as in the rebellion,
As in the day of trial in the wilderness,
9 When your fathers tested Me;
They tried Me, though they saw My work.
10 For forty years I was grieved with that generation,
And said, ‘It is a people who go astray in their hearts,
And they do not know My ways.’
11 So I swore in My wrath,
‘They shall not enter My rest.’ ”

[Matthew 25:41 KJV] Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:
[Matthew 25:46 KJV] And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.

[Isaiah 45:7-9 KJV] I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
[8] Drop down, ye heavens, from above, and let the skies pour down righteousness: let the earth open, and let them bring forth salvation, and let righteousness spring up together; I the LORD have created it.
[9] Woe unto him that striveth with his Maker! Let the potsherd strive with the potsherds of the earth. Shall the clay say to him that fashioneth it, What makest thou? or thy work, He hath no hands?

 

[Reborn-Adopted]

JESUS Authored the false church sea and The Bridge out of it. you put CHRIST on a Cross with your personal sins ...you deserve to be in delusion where you think you are Saved.​

Psalm 95:5 KJV — The sea is his, and he made it: and his hands formed the dry land.

Matthew 25:41 KJV — Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:

Matthew 25:46 KJV — And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.

water that is on fire ...a lake of fire. a lake of Judgment.​

Isaiah 45:7 KJV — I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.

protestant:

The Spirit of God witnesses to our spirit that we are children of God. His fruit produced in us testifies a better Word than the doctrines of man.

is Faith, Believing CHRIST is real? yes? then you use man's doctrine.

protestant:

Baptism of the Holy Spirit comes with tongues of fire which is God's power to equip for ministering the Gospel of Jesus Christ so we may go about doing the Father's business.

most of you are sitting in flames of delusion right now. your Baptism of Fire didn't go well.

Luke 12:49-51 KJV — I am come to send fire on the earth; and what will I, if it be already kindled? But I have a baptism to be baptized with; and how am I straitened till it be accomplished! Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay; but rather division:

[Isaiah 45:7-9 KJV] I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
[8] Drop down, ye heavens, from above, and let the skies pour down righteousness: let the earth open, and let them bring forth salvation, and let righteousness spring up together; I the LORD have created it.
[9] Woe unto him that striveth with his Maker! Let the potsherd strive with the potsherds of the earth. Shall the clay say to him that fashioneth it, What makest thou? or thy work, He hath no hands?

you think This is in the future? Think again:​

1 Corinthians 3:9-15 KJV — For we are labourers together with God: ye are God's husbandry, ye are God's building. According to the grace of God which is given unto me, as a wise masterbuilder, I have laid the foundation, and another buildeth thereon. But let every man take heed how he buildeth thereupon. For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ. Now if any man build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble; Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is. If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward. If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.

Wow, people made a covenant with death ...the death side of free will. your covenant put your personal sins on JESUS' Cross. you made a deal with the devil ...good luck with that:​

[Isaiah 28:15-16 KJV] Because ye have said, We have made a covenant with death, and with hell are we at agreement; when the overflowing scourge shall pass through, it shall not come unto us: for we have made lies our refuge, and under falsehood have we hid ourselves:
[16] Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD, Behold, I lay in Zion for a foundation a stone, a tried stone, a precious corner stone, a sure foundation: he that believeth shall not make haste.
[17] Judgment also will I lay to the line, and righteousness to the plummet: and the hail shall sweep away the refuge of lies, and the waters shall overflow the hiding place.
[18] And your covenant with death shall be disannulled, and your agreement with hell shall not stand; when the overflowing scourge shall pass through, then ye shall be trodden down by it.

Full Preterist:

Can you not determine the audience when you read the Scriptures? Who was God speaking to ? Israel/ Judah whom He covenanted with under the OLD Covenant/Testament.

lol, oh why even bother reading The OT ...right?

Full Preterist:

you should DEFINITELY read the Old Testament as it was written to WHOM
it was written. No one has been under that Covenant for 2000 years!

so you read through The OT only to find ways to say It ended in 70 A.D. ...and you continue into The NT and claim the same thing when Revelation obviously remained to describe the past 2,000 years.

Full Preterist:

Revelation does not describe the last 2000 years until Rev. 21 and 22.
Father testified His Christ fulfilled ALL THINGS HERE. Admit you don’t believe the Father or His Son!

so the entire OT was foreshadowing for 40 years? and you want me to believe catholics are not the darkness described in The OT? you are as blind as a bat.

catholics worship JESUS' Dead Corpse to show how thankful they are for JESUS being on their own Cross for them ...with their personal sins.

protestants worship the first beast by turning catholic's: unlimited forgiveness scheme into imputed Righteousness.​

it all comes down to excuses to not be on your own Cross ...what better excuse than to say JESUS was on your Cross for you?​

none of them have JESUS as their LORD. they think they can freeze time of The Cross and bleed Him like a vampire ...when the actual Reason for His Cross was so that we could stop sinning.

if your old self is not on a Cross then you have made a deal with satan to say JESUS took your place, so you won't die. you have satan's mark of ownership...the mark of the beast.​

 

[Reborn-Adopted]

a judas kiss is imputed Righteousness and unlimited forgiveness. it's saying, "hey JESUS, die for my personal sins so i can continue living in hell's city".​

a judas kiss is nailing your Savior to a Cross to keep an open Door to satan's will ...that's what a monster would do. this has the false church written all over it.​

[Revelation 13:7-8 KJV] And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.
[8] And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

if you Knew GOD, you would know you can't sin anymore ...death is not Knowing GOD ...so Knowing GOD Is Eternal LIFE. As soon as you have FAITH, there is no more Sacrifice for sins ...because your old self becomes a Sacrifice.​

Knowing GOD Is a Completed FAITH. Your Cross is so you can Know GOD ...CHRIST'S Cross Made That Possible ...He didn't have your personal sins on His Cross ...that would have made your Cross pointless.​

do you think you are in The LAMB'S Book of LIFE? ...aka The LAMB'S Book of those that Know GOD?​

Hebrews 12:2 KJV — Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.

Genesis 2:17 KJV — But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.

John 17:3 KJV — And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.


Hebrews 10:26 KJV — For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,

Loving GOD is about Knowing Him in a Relationship ...It isn't about excusing sin at all.​

[1 Corinthians 8:3 KJV] But if any man love God, the same is known of him.

[John 14:23 KJV] Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.

What is preventing you from going all in? To be 100% in FAITH is to be Perfect/Complete. It's Knowing GOD and having The LIFE GOD Wanted you to have. Counting the Cost of that 100% has nothing to do with acknowledging CHRIST is real.​

The Cost is everything you live for ...your goals in life that CHRIST didn't Assign you.

to say JESUS had your sins on His Cross is to say you don't have to be 100%. 99% is a fake Christian ...that 1% is an idol ...it's what you were not willing to give up.​

many set conditions where GOD has to explain something to them before they are willing to go all in ...this is a trick of satan. ...just accept He is in Control ...and they happen for a reason. it's pride to test GOD.

Vow to never choose the death side of free will again. Be 100% for LIFE.​

To be Saved, you have to have His Resurrected LIFE ...FAITH. FAITH Is Knowing GOD. you don't know GOD in a church of man's doctrine. all they have is excuses to not be 100%.

catholic:

Going out and living the Christian life is better than making a vow and then failing at it. We are called to serve His people and care for those in need.

artificial Christian ...wow.

Psalm 38:20 KJV — They also that render evil for good are mine adversaries; because I follow the thing that good is.

catholic:

I hope you do follow the words of Christ and emulate the Gospel message. That would be much better than denying the very possibility that you could make any error and then sit around and type out error and accusation and spitefulness. That would be rendering evil for good.

leave it to you to say we don't have to Count the Cost. just be charitable and you don't have to be 100% ...right?

catholic:

We all have to do the best we can possibly do. It is I who come here and am a lonely voice for accountability for our actions. It is you who has consistently ignored almost the entirety of Jesus's words and actions...in favor of your need to condemn and accuse

JESUS Died so you could stop sinning ...not for you to continue to remain on the death side of free will. satan worship requires you to continue to kill CHRIST.

JESUS Said to Follow Him by getting on your own Cross ...not follow Him to pierce Him.

it's you, a piercing serpent:

Isaiah 27:1 KJV — In that day the LORD with his sore and great and strong sword shall punish leviathan the piercing serpent, even leviathan that crooked serpent; and he shall slay the dragon that is in the sea.

Would you Worship JESUS as your LORD if you knew He didn't Die for your personal sins?​

most have a one way Relationship with CHRIST ..."hey bellboy, clean up my personal sins".

[Luke 6:46 NKJV] "But why do you call Me 'Lord, Lord,' and not do the things which I say?

"protestant' means to protest ...so they pretend to protest catholics ...but as they left catholicism ...they kept the core lie ...that JESUS Died for your personal sins to explain why they were not Righteous.

are protestants saying we receive CHRIST on our own Crosses to be Atoned? they are taking your Cross out of the equation. they made John 21:19 pointless.​

John 21:18-19 KJV — Verily, verily, I say unto thee, When thou wast young, thou girdedst thyself, and walkedst whither thou wouldest: but when thou shalt be old, thou shalt stretch forth thy hands, and another shall gird thee, and carry thee whither thou wouldest not. This spake he, signifying by what death he should glorify God. And when he had spoken this, he saith unto him, Follow me.

Where do you Not want to be Carried? Your own Cross.

JESUS Is The Bridge to your old self death.​

 

[Reborn-Adopted]

It doesn't say His Dead Body Redeems us ...It Says He Does ...our Living LORD Does. It also didn't say you are somehow purified in your new sins.​

Titus 2:14 KJV — Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.​

Did you want Him to Nail you to a Cross? No, but that's how this works:​

John 21:18-19 KJV — Verily, verily, I say unto thee, When thou wast young, thou girdedst thyself, and walkedst whither thou wouldest: but when thou shalt be old, thou shalt stretch forth thy hands, and another shall gird thee, and carry thee whither thou wouldest not. This spake he, signifying by what death he should glorify God. And when he had spoken this, he saith unto him, Follow me.

Isaiah 22:23 KJV — And I will fasten him as a nail in a sure place; and he shall be for a glorious throne to his father's house.

no one wants hell to be right now all around us because then they would have to face the delusion they are currently in.​

You are supposed to Know GOD ...you chose to know death ...the other tree.​

no one wants to hear this, but annual birthdays might be a tradition. are we to have a day where our old selves are not on a Cross?​

catholic:

Birthdays are not days when people decide to give up their crosses and sin.

pentecostal:

The Lord Christ Jesus never celebrated His day of birth as such is never a custom of God's people.

The Lord said...

Luke 9:23 (KJV)
And he said to them all, If any man will come after me, let him DENY HIMSELF, and take up his cross DAILY, and follow me.

Now,

Once you celebrate your birthday, does it denotes denial of yourself?

Does it suit to denying yourself on a daily basis and taking up your own cross daily?

Giving one day out of 365 days "for yourself" to celebrate cannot be found in the word of God.

Such is never a tradition of the people of God.

catholic:

we can recognize people's birthdays without offending God or causing sin. If we are living for Christ, we are not going to slide directly into sin and death just because it happens to be our or someone else's birthday and we want to tell them how grateful we are to know and love them. I mean, how out of control are you people? Baking or eating a little birthday cake is not a death sin.

pentecostal:

evilly inspired tradition exalting it's own self which is supposed to be dead if such genuinely believe and followed the Lord Christ Jesus.

The sin committed is disobedience of God's commandment to come out from religion full of man made traditions and not to be a partaker or compromiser.

God commandments are holy making those who obeyed holy.

you are saying to be grateful we don't have to be on our own Cross on birthdays ...actually you say that about every day ...it's core to your con.​

catholic:

No, as usual that's what you are saying, not me. I am saying that caring for someone enough to honor them on their birthday (and the birthday person should be free to share some joy with loved ones) is not a sin or a denial of the Gospel. Being a follower of Christ does not mean a life of hateful misery. Your sick interpretation of the Gospel leads to these kind of absurdities. If you were consistent in your thinking, you would become a Flagellant. Yet instead you are just a simple privileged suburbanite.

you can't bare good fruit unless your old self is on a Cross. ...bad branches get cut off and tossed into delusion. you can't have Biblical Love for your neighbor unless you laid your old life down. because your old life only has artificial love.​

catholic:

would you allow or celebrate your own child's birthday? Can someone still be saved if they buy someone a birthday present?

You can give presents to kids ...they are in The Kingdom ...you are not.

catholic:

you don't/didn't give your poor mother a birthday card, at least?

if you don't accept anything for your own bd, it's much easier to explain to your relatives why you are not celebrating theirs.

catholic:

What a bundle of joy you must be.

the whole reason you have a giant Dead Corpse of CHRIST center stage above a death Altar is to claim you are being grateful ...grateful that you don't have to be on your own Cross.​

so of course you don't care about getting off your Cross for birthdays ...you do it every day anyways.

you worship imputed Righteousness

catholic:

my cross would crush you flat, silly man. Speaking of birthdays and cake, your Christian walk is a cake-walk of tiny little fringe inconveniences and a no porn/street drug rule. Laughable

your cross has a foundation of gratefulness... it's a trick of satan. If your Cross is not Founded with you on It ...you have artificial faith.​

protestant:

The shepherds in the field and the wise men came to celebrate the birth of Jesus Christ. That certainly is not satanic.

Did either of them return the year after they saw Him? no, pharaoh your father started annual birthdays.

protestant:

Do you know how old you are? Of course you do. You know why your age changes each year? It is because you had a birthday whether you acknowledge it or not. And in fact you do acknowledge it because your age changes every year.

pentecostal:

Adam's age was recorded without a single day of celebration.

Jesus' age was known without a single year of celebration.

People of God never celebrated their bday, that's crystal clear.

It's your choice to follow the world's widely accepted celebrations

It's up to you if you do what the world of religion do.

protestant:

For you it would be a sin to celebrate a birthday. For someone else their conscience would be clear.

it's shows us that you don't respect Remaining on your own Cross.​

pentecostal:

Satan deceived the whole world and hence the world is full of humanly deviced celebrations and traditions.
Saints are called out from the deceived world.
We are not to be defiled, not to be partakers of the world.
[Ephesians 5:7 KJV] Be not ye therefore partakers with them.


Learn from Adam.
He lost eternal life not because he believed a lie and was deceived, but simply because he became partaker of it, instead of rebuking Eve, he compromised.
And when Adam was confronted of his compromise, he reasoned out and made excuses.
God never accept excuses.

Is celebrating bday, spirit based or flesh based?

You can do it in the guise of spirit, but truth is, it's for the flesh which supposed to be dead.
Again
It's your choice to follow the world and its traditions.

Celebrating Bday is for sure doctrines of men and not of Christ.
Christ never teach His people to do such.

protestant:

He never said not to.

He Said to get on a Cross ...you are saying you can hop off.​

you are a great example of being 99% Saved. progressive Salvation isn't a thing.

pentecostal:

Just because the majority, the world is doing it, it doesn't make right in the sight of God.
Always remember, the majority is wrong and are in the broad, wide way leading to destruction.

We cannot convert a lie into truth.
Bday celebration is the root of Christmas.
It's so called bday of Christ celebrated by so called believers of Christ.
We are to be separated from the world.
Again
It's your choice.

protestant:

But we do learn more through the Holy Spirit leading and guiding. The Holy Spirit produces fruit and matures the fruit in us. The Holy Spirit adds His fruit to our lives.

When you were born physically you were not the size that you are now. You had to grow. And you didn't lay in bed saying little arms and little legs grow. It automatically happened.

All our days are written before we've experienced a one as it is written. The Holy Spirit matures and takes one from milk to meat. It is a process of growth. One is saved by Grace through Faith. God is big enough to grow us physically the way He wants to. And God is big enough to grow us Spiritually the Way He wants to.

any day now you'll be Righteous ...but oh don't worry if you never Made it to The Door.​

 

[Reborn-Adopted]

canaan was cursed by Noah, that doesn't make any sense. ham likely had a child with Noah's wife ...canaan. the false church was born. satan had a child with CHRIST'S Wife.​

[Genesis 9:22 KJV] And Ham, the father of Canaan, saw the nakedness of his father, and told his two brethren without.

[Genesis 9:24-25 KJV] And Noah awoke from his wine, and knew what his younger son had done unto him.
[25] And he said, Cursed be Canaan; a servant of servants shall he be unto his brethren.

Noah Represented CHRIST with His Dove:​

Genesis 8:9 KJV — But the dove found no rest for the sole of her foot, and she returned unto him into the ark, for the waters were on the face of the whole earth: then he put forth his hand, and took her, and pulled her in unto him into the ark.

satan in ham took advantage:

[Ezekiel 23:17-19 KJV] And the Babylonians came to her into the bed of love, and they defiled her with their whoredom, and she was polluted with them, and her mind was alienated from them.
[18] So she discovered her whoredoms, and discovered her nakedness: then my mind was alienated from her, like as my mind was alienated from her sister.
[19] Yet she multiplied her whoredoms, in calling to remembrance the days of her youth, wherein she had played the harlot in the land of Egypt.
[22] Therefore, O Aholibah, thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I will raise up thy lovers against thee, from whom thy mind is alienated, and I will bring them against thee on every side;

ham owned the land of egypt.

[Lamentations 1:1-3 KJV] How doth the city sit solitary, that was full of people! how is she become as a widow! she that was great among the nations, and princess among the provinces, how is she become tributary!
[2] She weepeth sore in the night, and her tears are on her cheeks: among all her lovers she hath none to comfort her: all her friends have dealt treacherously with her, they are become her enemies.
[3] Judah is gone into captivity because of affliction, and because of great servitude: she dwelleth among the heathen, she findeth no rest: all her persecutors overtook her between the straits.

That whole area from egypt to babylon was the Land of Eden.

canaan + catholics = nicolaitans​

Revelation 2:6 KJV — But this thou hast, that thou hatest the deeds of the Nicolaitans, which I also hate.

catholics:

you do realize that you have ascribed every single thing in the Bible that has any negative connotations to "Catholics"? That doesn't seem sort of off to you?

not at all:

Revelation 12:4 KJV — And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.

catholics:

not one person in the world thinks that this dragon is the Catholic church. Not even the most insane of the anti-Catholic preachers of hate. Only you

satan (ham) saw that he could take advantage of GOD'S Church ...and here you are.

catholics:

meaningless thing to say to me and satan is not the same as Ham. You are so far removed from proper or even halfway sane theology that the Truth is but a distant speck on the other side of your universe

weird how ham had the land of Egypt.

satan was pharaoh and his son Canaan was in the Promise Land ...it's you.

catholics:

I thought satan was Ham...what on earth are you talking about?? I am not Egyptian!

the king of tyre (tyrus) had a prince son ...you.

[Ezekiel 28:2 KJV] Son of man, say unto the prince of Tyrus, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Because thine heart is lifted up, and thou hast said, I am a God, I sit in the seat of God, in the midst of the seas; yet thou art a man, and not God, though thou set thine heart as the heart of God:

[Ezekiel 28:5 KJV] By thy great wisdom and by thy traffick hast thou increased thy riches, and thine heart is lifted up because of thy riches:

[Ezekiel 28:7 KJV] Behold, therefore I will bring strangers upon thee, the terrible of the nations: and they shall draw their swords against the beauty of thy wisdom, and they shall defile thy brightness.


the king of the prince is satan ...your father:

[Ezekiel 28:12 KJV] Son of man, take up a lamentation upon the king of Tyrus, and say unto him, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Thou sealest up the sum, full of wisdom, and perfect in beauty.
[Ezekiel 28:13 KJV] Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created.
[Ezekiel 28:18 KJV] Thou hast defiled thy sanctuaries by the multitude of thine iniquities, by the iniquity of thy traffick; therefore will I bring forth a fire from the midst of thee, it shall devour thee, and I will bring thee to ashes upon the earth in the sight of all them that behold thee.

Fire in the midst of thee ...where the two trees of The Garden are ....the tree of knowledge was set on Fire.

i didn't know tyre was linked to babylon also: merchants of the false church:​

[Isaiah 23:8 KJV] Who hath taken this counsel against Tyre, the crowning city, whose merchants are princes, whose traffickers are the honourable of the earth?

[Isaiah 23:15-18 KJV] And it shall come to pass in that day, that Tyre shall be forgotten seventy years, according to the days of one king: after the end of seventy years shall Tyre sing as an harlot.
[16] Take an harp, go about the city, thou harlot that hast been forgotten; make sweet melody, sing many songs, that thou mayest be remembered.
[17] And it shall come to pass after the end of seventy years, that the LORD will visit Tyre, and she shall turn to her hire, and shall commit fornication with all the kingdoms of the world upon the face of the earth.
[18] And her merchandise and her hire shall be holiness to the LORD: it shall not be treasured nor laid up; for her merchandise shall be for them that dwell before the LORD, to eat sufficiently, and for durable clothing.

[Jeremiah 25:11-12 KJV] And this whole land shall be a desolation, and an astonishment; and these nations shall serve the king of Babylon seventy years.
[12] And it shall come to pass, when seventy years are accomplished, that I will punish the king of Babylon, and that nation, saith the LORD, for their iniquity, and the land of the Chaldeans, and will make it perpetual desolations.

[Joel 3:4 KJV] Yea, and what have ye to do with me, O Tyre, and Zidon, and all the coasts of Palestine? will ye render me a recompence? and if ye recompense me, swiftly and speedily will I return your recompence upon your own head;

[Matthew 11:21 KJV] Woe unto thee, Chorazin! woe unto thee, Bethsaida! for if the mighty works, which were done in you, had been done in Tyre and Sidon, they would have repented long ago in sackcloth and ashes.

side note: sidon is in Ezekiel 28 also.

so go ahead and proclaim catholics go way back to the start ...it's because they did ...attempting to open the gates of hell on It.​

guess which side of the seed war you are on?​

Genesis 3:15 KJV — And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.

you bruised The Narrow Path of His Feet.​

 

[Reborn-Adopted]

For each city of hell, GOD sets their tree of knowledge on Fire. they remain in delusion. You are not going to have a Relationship with GOD unless you use your own Cross as a Bridge out of that city.​

Ezekiel 28:18 KJV — Thou hast defiled thy sanctuaries by the multitude of thine iniquities, by the iniquity of thy traffick; therefore will I bring forth a fire from the midst of thee, it shall devour thee, and I will bring thee to ashes upon the earth in the sight of all them that behold thee.

Your old self has to be in a death bed ...a Cross ....The Covering is a Narrow Bridge to LIFE.​

[Isaiah 28:20 KJV] For the bed is shorter than that a man can stretch himself on it: and the covering narrower than that he can wrap himself in it.​

1 Samuel 19:12-13 KJV — So Michal let David down through a window: and he went, and fled, and escaped. And Michal took an image, and laid it in the bed, and put a pillow of goats' hair for his bolster, and covered it with a cloth.

Get out of hell's city!!!​

Isaiah 32:15-16 KJV — Until the spirit be poured upon us from on high, and the wilderness be a fruitful field, and the fruitful field be counted for a forest. Then judgment shall dwell in the wilderness, and righteousness remain in the fruitful field.

[Isaiah 32:18-20 KJV] And my people shall dwell in a peaceable habitation, and in sure dwellings, and in quiet resting places;
[19] When it shall hail, coming down on the forest; and the city shall be low in a low place.
[20] Blessed are ye that sow beside all waters, that send forth thither the feet of the ox and the ass.

a valley is a low place ...hell

protestant:

Here's the truth in the scriptures: Romans 8:11-14
And if the Spirit of Him who raised Jesus from the dead is living in you, He who raised Christ Jesus from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies through His Spirit, who lives in you. 12Therefore, brothers, we have an obligation, but it is not to the flesh, to live according to it. 13For if you live according to the flesh, you will die; but if by the Spirit you put to death the deeds of the body, you will live.…For all who are led by the Spirit of God are children of God.

Your Cross as a Bridge isn't Possible without Him.​

protestant:

Of course it isn't. I'm so glad you realize that!!!

you say to use His Cross and not your own.

protestant:

Quote me.

every time you say "receive" which is just about every day.​

protestant:

Are you overcoming your flesh through your own strength and power which is your flesh? Or are you overcoming your flesh by the power of God's Spirit indwelling you?

you can't turn your own Cross into a Bridge like a catholic tries to do. you either got Crucified or you didn't ...if not you are still in delusion.​

your Cross can't be a Bridge out of hell without Him Making It Possible.

protestant:

There are many branches in the vine that will be cut off and thrown into the fire because they produce no fruit.

that's not a thing ...He already Returned ...it's more of your progressive salvation nonsense.

protestant:

The seals of Revelation are llike a woman in labor. They continue to repeat getting stronger and stronger until the baby is born. Jesus Christ came again when He rose from the dead and the graves were opened. Revelation was written long after that. You are trusting in your doctrine rather than trusting in Jesus Christ and His Spirit's voice.

things repeat like different cities of hell. THE WAY Out of them remains the Same.

Isaiah 32:6 KJV — For the vile person will speak villany, and his heart will work iniquity, to practise hypocrisy, and to utter error against the LORD, to make empty the soul of the hungry, and he will cause the drink of the thirsty to fail.

If you have used your personal Cross as a Bridge out of hell's city ...then you don't have the option to choose the death side of free will anymore.​

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is there any doubt you might go back to wanting the death side of free will to be available? that doubt means you are Not Born of The Spirit.​

 

[Reborn-Adopted]

to perish from The Way is to be put into a delusion where you think you are Saved in the hell that we are in right now.​

you don't think hell is now ...because you are under delusion.​

Psalm 2:12 KJV — Kiss the Son, lest he be angry, and ye perish from the way, when his wrath is kindled but a little. Blessed are all they that put their trust in him.

His Relationship with GOD should have perished in hell ...Being Quickened is being Raised to The Living Relationship:​

Psalm 119:91-93 KJV — They continue this day according to thine ordinances: for all are thy servants. Unless thy law had been my delights, I should then have perished in mine affliction. I will never forget thy precepts: for with them thou hast quickened me.

CHRIST Perished in His Relationship to GOD and was in hell ...so that we could be Quickened out of it ...Just like He Was.​

Romans 6:11
Likewise you also, reckon yourselves to be dead indeed to sin, but alive to God in Christ Jesus our Lord.

A New Creation is your Raised Spirit that has His Yoke. Your physical body doesn't need a Yoke ...your Spirit does.​

Are you Yoked from a Mountain Top ...or a valley? If your Spirit is Yoked from Heaven, then it doesn't have access to hell ...the death side of free will.​

CHRIST had to be Killed so that He could become separated from His FATHER for us ...His Death didn't Forgive your sins.​

JESUS Holds the Keys of death and hell now ...He Decides if His Sacrifice will Forgive your past sins ...or not. The LORD is Living ...all you know is a Dead Savior where you try to milk forgiveness out of Him.​

[Revelation 1:18 KJV] I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.

protestant:

According to the scriptures you have believed in vain.
According to your own words, you are not washed in the blood of the Lamb; and you are found naked and will be thrown out which Jesus Christ revealed to me about you many months ago. You keep confirming His Truth to me. Please repent of your false doctrine which is the imagination of your own mind or doctrines of demons. Jesus Christ ABSOLUTELY DIED FOR OUR SINS.

1 Corinthians 15:2-4 By this gospel you are saved, if you hold firmly to the word I preached to you. Otherwise, you have believed in vain. 3For what I received I passed on to you as of first importance: that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, 4that He was buried, that He was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures

He did Die for worldly sin ...didn't say His Death automatically got your past sins forgiven.​

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JESUS Decides who can see The Door:​

[John 9:39 KJV] And Jesus said, For judgment I am come into this world, that they which see not might see; and that they which see might be made blind.

[John 9:41 KJV] Jesus said unto them, If ye were blind, ye should have no sin: but now ye say, We see; therefore your sin remaineth.

Psalm 56:12-13 KJV — Thy vows are upon me, O God: I will render praises unto thee. For thou hast delivered my soul from death: wilt not thou deliver my feet from falling, that I may walk before God in the light of the living?


James 4:7-8 KJV — Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you. Draw nigh to God, and he will draw nigh to you. Cleanse your hands, ye sinners; and purify your hearts, ye double minded.

protestant:

You have been shown to be an absolute false prophet. You are not saved by the blood of the Lamb given for you as an atoning sacrifice.

It is sad that it is more important for you to save face and twist and lie to try to prove some point of yours and feel right in your doctrine. Is it really worth losing your soul in the Lake of Fire?

i know it's pointless trying to explain something to reprobates... but here we go.

your con all along has been to "receive the automatic forgiveness of sins from CHRIST'S Death".

protestant:

you don't thrown out the atoning of sacrifice of Jesus Christ with the bath water! Jesus Christ knows the true believer who accepts His work on the cross as the perfect sacrifice of God and walks in His Spirit because of it.

You have a good message to NOT SIN. It is NOT a new message. The scriptures are full of this message. But the scriptures are full of the saving Gospel of the atoning sacrifice of Jesus Christ for our sin and the sins of the whole world which you are ignoring!

Until you have received Jesus Christ as your SAVIOR and accepted the truth of the Gospel that He died for your sins, you will not be born again by His Spirit and you will die in your sins. You are sinning when you reject the sacrifice of Jesus Christ given for you. You are sinning when you post that Jesus Christ didn't forgive your sin.

Someone who truly receives Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior (it is both) is born again by His Spirit. It is this Spiritual birth that enables the person to walk in the Spirit and not the flesh.

JESUS Died for our separation from The FATHER ...Because of What He Did ...He Chooses who is Saved.​

Matthew 25:31-34 KJV — When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory: And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats: And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left. Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:

protestant:

1 John 4:10
And love consists in this: not that we loved God, but that He loved us and sent His Son as the atoning sacrifice for our sins.

Of course His Sacrifice is for Atonement ...He Chooses who gets It ...Because It was His.​

full preterist:

Do you accuse Jesus of not keeping His PROMISES?

John 11: 25 Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live:
26 And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall NEVER DIE. Believest thou this?

Revelation 20:14 And DEATH and HELL were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

Revelation 21:4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be NO MORE DEATH, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.

Revelation 22:3 And there shall be NO MORE CURSE: but the throne of God and of the Lamb shall be in it; and his servants shall serve him:

His Promises are for those using The FAITH He Authored. ...aka be on your own Cross.​

full preterist:

His people died to their FLESH and were RESURRECTED. You are still FLESH.

oh, right, you Repented that one time ...so now you are an Angel.

full preterist:

His seed are SPIRIT. You are still FLESH.

am i? you are the one defending unlimited forgiveness ...it's like the only parts of Scripture you understand are Timed Events.

full preterist:

You need to be MADE ALIVE. When you stop falsely accusing His people, we will know that you have been changed.

1 Corinthians 15:22 For as in Adam all DIE, even so in Christ shall all be MADE ALIVE.

John 3:6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

John 6:63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.

Revelation 22:17 And THE SPIRIT AND THE BRIDE SAY, COME. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the WATER OF LIFE FREELY.

the difference between you and a premill is that they think they will get a magic body in the future ...you think you already have this nonsense.

full preterist:

More evidence you are still FLESH, a dead man. You don’t believe He fulfilled all things as He promised and continue to falsely accuse HIM!

All things were made NEW through Jesus, the Christ. The Kingdom of God was taken from the rebellious Israelite children and given to His righteous children, a NEW NATION, a SPIRITUAL NATION of whom Jesus is the FIRSTBORN!

Matthew 21:43 Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you , and given to a NATION bringing forth the fruits thereof.
All things were made NEW through Jesus,the Christ. God said so!

REV. 21:5 And He that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make ALL THINGS NEW. And He said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.

Unless you repent you will perish in your unbelief, blasphemy, and lies about the Father and His Son

You are still flesh and your FRUIT is the evidence.

How are you dead to sin? all you did was claim sin isn't sin anymore for you.​

Romans 6:11
Likewise you also, reckon yourselves to be dead indeed to sin, but alive to God in Christ Jesus our Lord.

full preterist:

I DIED on my cross and was RESURRECTED . Jesus will make you ALIVE in the Spirit if you REPENT.

you only Repent if your old self Remains dead ...you have kept it alive ...that is what your imputed Righteousness scheme does.​

we are the serpent on a pole, JESUS Is The Author of Faith. you don't have FAITH unless your old self is on a pole.​

John 3:14-15 KJV — And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up: That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.

Eternal LIFE = Eternal FAITH = Knowing GOD, you can't go back to not Knowing GOD when JESUS Set you free. that would be like learning how to ride a bike and then pretending you don't know how to do it anymore.​

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Do you Believe or not?​

Knowing how to ride a bike isn't automatic either. the imputed righteousness lie is claiming you just have to blow CHRIST some kisses and you will automatically know how to ride a bike.​

John 3:16 KJV — For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

protestants give the analogy of JESUS Putting money in your bank (Salvation) ...all you have to do is receive it ...lol

their con all along has been to "receive the automatic forgiveness of sins from CHRIST'S Death". ...the death key they added was "automatic" ...It most definitely is not automatic.​