Preterism ends now ...but futurists are not right either

[Reborn-Adopted]

The thief next to CHRIST Shows us the serpent's seed lie​

protestant:

God is not religion. He came to destroy the religious spirit that had become the temple leaders. And they killed Him, because they were of the devil. So obvious but a blind man can't see it. Whether you know it or not there will come a day where every knee bows and confesses Christ is Lord. People think this is an impossibility, yet they walk around this earth like this life is anything short of miraculous. If the prophets cannot convince a man, neither would seeing proof, that is how delusional the blind are.

catholic:

I agree generally but I also think that one can be a member of a church and still be saved. I think there are true and devout and loving followers of Christ, who do His will with integrity and Spirit, in most denominations. I think they have not been brought to all truth, or sweep the half truths and lies under the rug for the sake of religiosity and membership.

protestant:

God calls His children out of the world. I refuse to compromise truth.

both of you are the religious spirit with your imputed Righteousness nonsense.

catholic:

wherever there are humans, there will be some corruption. (Including online in today's church of internet personalities and go-it-aloners) Yet we are still instructed to "not neglect to gather in His name".

today, people gather to tell each other they are Saved in their sins. you can't buy or sell without his mark. We were to gather ...before He Returned.

catholic:

perfect example of corruption through online videos coupled with social isolation and a failure to live according to scripture ^^. When Christians gather in goodwill "in remembrance of me (Him), it's often a corrective and instructive event, and Jesus (and Paul!) knew the importance of this.

I didn't ask you to compromise truth. I am merely talking about the methods we use. The worst and most obviously wicked out there are constantly justifying rebukes of their nasty behavior by saying that they left the world and hate the world and that they are the sole arbiters of truth. That is pride and spitefulness. Most Christians understand the importance of belonging to a good church and know that relying only on ourselves, and neglecting the tradition of gathering in his name, leads to the myriad crazy fad theologies that we see blossoming today. We are supposed to break bread with one another, and confess our sins to one another, as scripture states. This is all I want people to hear from me. I am not recommending any particular church or demanding that people believe in anything besides Christ and His Word.

oh, yes, your shot glass of Scripture and then the homily ....yay, i got my hour of God stuff done for the week ...i can now pretend i did the bare minimum to get into Heaven.

protestant:

here are the undiluted facts about Catholicism which is the greatest of all the world church. It is riddled with idolatry and anti biblical practices and traditions of men. The travesty that was brought to the public's attention about the abuse of kids and the covering up in secrecy (pure evil), that was not isolated to one incident or time but over decades and all around the world. Sure, not all Catholics are evil, but when the church demonation you belong to is found with such evil in it and you do not question what you are doing there..that raises my question of you. Of course the things I have already pointed out to you about the Vatican you have deemed nonsense, thinking it's a conspiracy or not good taste, do you understand satan? "More good can be done" as you say...interesting stance, because many people who have come out of the world do great things without a church building. The catholic building is not a Holy place it is just a building with people deep engrained in religion who meet weekly in their slumber. If the Vatican was of God it would have solved world hunger by now, since most of their palaces and high ranking members drip with wealth. The pope is an unholy creature, holding his graven image. The Bible is true and all men are liars.

I whole heartedly believe in gathering in His Name, and I'm here to tell you there is a much better way..The Narrow Way. Pray without ceasing and seek The Living God and His guidance, let all other factors pass away

catholic:

so maybe Catholicism is not the best choice for you?

I already said several times that I only wish to say that it's good and scriptural to join some kind of church. In my opinion, one that celebrates the Eucharist in some fashion. (Since Jesus commanded us to do this)

of course you don't care what church ...they all started from you.​

you tell people they won't die if they go to a church ...you are the serpent to Eve.
They had to gather because they were not Saved until He Returned.

you don't care when protestants call you evil because you know they are in your sinking boat. you started them off with the lie that JESUS had their personal sins on His Cross ...you made a religion out of it ...and they are in it also.

She was Given Wings of an Eagle away from your lie ...but that didn't last long. you know you are introduced in Rev 13.

catholic:

whaaat??? why would I want anyone to be damned?!? You must have an extremely wicked mindset to think that someone who gave their whole life to Christ actually wants people to go to hell.

the second beast has two horns like a LAMB ...it's your ghost. your father is the dragon ...you are the trinity of the Bible.

are you thankful JESUS had your sins on His Cross?

catholic:

Jesus was crucified and died to redeem the world's sins. I am thankful for this, yes.

you are saying JESUS doesn't Choose who His Sacrifice Counts for. Anyone of the world can be Chosen ...Through Him. you are saying you blow Him kisses and you are automatically covered. ground zero of your con.

you blow kisses by going to a physical church.

just go to church and do charitable works and you can choose yourself ...that way you don't have to get on your own Cross.

catholic:

buddy, you just sit in your room and type garbage condemning all other Christians and all churches, declare yourself perfect and do nothing else. Meanwhile, us Christians are living this faith in joy, sorrow, love, charity, brotherhood, pain, shared grief, righteous striving, and all the dynamics of a vibrant existence doing the works and will of our Lord Jesus, Amen!!!

i thought unlimited forgiveness was your root ...but no, it's this lie that JESUS had your personal sins with Him on His Cross. you twisted the Scripture about general worldly separation from GOD That JESUS Actually Died For ....to mean JESUS Died so you don't have to get on your own Cross.

catholic:

I don't even know what to make of all that; that's how relevant it is to me. The personal sins part sounds kind of evangelical/non-denominational or maybe southern Baptist to me. I think Jesus died for all the collective sins of humankind, should humans choose repentance and choose to live in their faith. I also just think that you have dropped into a pit of incoherence. If you want to explain further, I'm listening.

every lie out of the false church is sourced down to this.
The Seed War of Gen 3:15 is the serpent's seed that you won't die. for example, you won't die if you tell me your repeated sins in confession.
being in delusion is death ...hell.

[Genesis 3:15 KJV] And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.

catholic:

that's some weird stuff. Where does the "Jesus had (or, as you say, did not have) your personal sins with Him on His cross" thing come in? I guess you are trying to say that Jesus just died for general sin and if we sin, Jesus's sacrifice is no good for that? It's too messed up for me to comprehend what you are saying.

Is this all about you not liking 1 John 2: 1-2? I am just mystified here. Probably if I had your perspective, I could understand easier.

your Cross never comes into the picture:

Hebrews 10:26 KJV — For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,

Keep reading 1 John 2:

1 John 2:3-6 KJV — And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments. He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him. He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.

catholic:

well, yes that is why we do what we do! I wish you would walk this walk as well, brother!

If you Know Him ...there is no more Sacrifice for sin ...you are blind.

catholic:

oh no, not your misinterpretation of Hebrews again. You need to stop with that. No, we can't go on in endless willful sin. We also can't cover our sins with animal/temple sacrifices. Please read ANY interpretation of that scripture. You really need some clarity on that.

Is JESUS The TRUTH? Do you Know The TRUTH?​

catholic:

you want to say that a person can only be forgiven once. That is insanely un-Biblical. You need deliverance from your fallacious standard. That's the wanna-be cult leader in you that's talking. That's what they do. They elevate their goals for their subjects to an unattainable height, which they say that they themselves have achieved. (Perfection/glorification/resurrected state on earth/etc) It's the absolute pinnacle of false pride and it's anything but Christian. You should research the history of that tendency. Anyhow, still not sure how you could say that Jesus did not die to redeem of us of "personal" sins. All sins are personal.

If you Knew The TRUTH ...you would Know His SACRIFICE Made your Cross Possible. The thief next to CHRIST was on purpose to Show us what we must do!!!​

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JESUS Said Today he will Enter Paridise ...how does that make sense? JESUS didn't Rise Yet. Hello! It's what The Advocate Says to us when on our own Cross!​

 

[concretecamper]

Looks like we have a new member on this forum who is on a mission to confuse the rest of us as much as he/she is.

 

[Reborn-Adopted]

Those that hear HIS Voice Shall LIVE!!!​

The First Resurrection:​

[John 5:25-27 KJV] Verily, verily, I say unto you, The hour is coming, and now is, when the dead shall hear the voice of the Son of God: and they that hear shall live.
[26] For as the Father hath life in himself; so hath he given to the Son to have life in himself;
[27] And hath given him authority to execute judgment also, because he is the Son of man.

If You Know CHRIST (Hear His Voice), you have His LIGHT ...which is LIFE​

darkness = hell ...there are rulers of hell ...the false church

[Ephesians 6:12 KJV] For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

[Isaiah 9:2 KJV] The people that walked in darkness have seen a great light: they that dwell in the land of the shadow of death, upon them hath the light shined.

[Matthew 4:16 KJV] The people which sat in darkness saw great light; and to them which sat in the region and shadow of death light is sprung up.

[Acts 22:6 KJV] And it came to pass, that, as I made my journey, and was come nigh unto Damascus about noon, suddenly there shone from heaven a great light round about me.

[Matthew 6:23 KJV] But if thine eye be evil, thy whole body shall be full of darkness. If therefore the light that is in thee be darkness, how great is that darkness!

[2 Corinthians 13:5 KJV] Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves. Know ye not your own selves, how that Jesus Christ is in you, except ye be reprobates?

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The First Resurrection:​

[Eph 5:14-16 KJV]
Wherefore he saith, Awake thou that sleepest, and arise from the dead, and Christ shall give thee light.
[15] See then that ye walk circumspectly, not as fools, but as wise,
[16] Redeeming the time, because the days are evil.

The First Resurrection:​

[Rom 6:13 ESV]
Do not present your members to sin as instruments for unrighteousness, but present yourselves to God as those who have been brought from death to life, and your members to God as instruments for righteousness.

The First Resurrection:​

1 Peter 1:23 For you have been born again, but not to a life that will quickly end. Your new life will last forever because it comes from the eternal, living word of God.

The First Resurrection:​

1 Corinthians 15:42 (KJV)
So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption:

Do you have Life? Then you are in The First Resurrection:​

Revelation 20:4 KJV — ... and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

Sounds like The First Resurrection to me:​

Luke 11:32 KJV — The men of Nineve shall rise up in the judgment with this generation, and shall condemn it: for they repented at the preaching of Jonas; and, behold, a greater than Jonas is here.

Being Quickened is being Raised to The Living Relationship:​

Psalm 119:91-93 KJV — They continue this day according to thine ordinances: for all are thy servants. Unless thy law had been my delights, I should then have perished in mine affliction. I will never forget thy precepts: for with them thou hast quickened me.

They were waiting for The First Resurrection:​

Philippians 3:10-11 KJV — That I may know him, and the power of his resurrection, and the fellowship of his sufferings, being made conformable unto his death; If by any means I might attain unto the resurrection of the dead.

The First Resurrection: there are a whole lot of goats today:​

Matthew 25:31-34 KJV — When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory: And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats: And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left. Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:

to perish from The Way is to be put into delusion that you are Saved ...hell ...resurrection of the damned:​

Psalm 2:12 KJV — Kiss the Son, lest he be angry, and ye perish from the way, when his wrath is kindled but a little. Blessed are all they that put their trust in him.

We already know the first death is Fire Baptism (Rom 6) with a Resurrection with CHRIST. So the First Resurrection is The Reborn ...not something for the future. So what does this say about the second death?​

[Revelation 20:6 KJV] Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

[Revelation 2:11 KJV] He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; He that overcometh shall not be hurt of the second death.

[Revelation 21:7 KJV] He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.

[Revelation 20:14 KJV] And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

[Revelation 21:8 KJV] But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

so if you are in the false church ...you are in hell ...your Relationship to GOD is dead.


all forms of Eschatology agree with each other that they currently have imputed Righteousness (That CHRIST had your personal sins on His Cross). Full Preterists think He Returned to hand out imputed Righteousness. Partial Preterists think The First Resurrection gave them imputed Righteousness. and Premills think they got imputed Righteousness from His Cross ...but won't be fully Righteous until they get their magic bodies.

The only way you avoid a Final Judgment is to have your old man on your Cross (you don't get to substitute yourself with The Advocate). You would have already Walked in The SPIRIT past the Angels guarding The Tree of LIFE. You would have already have Entered New Jerusalem.

Have you Resurrected to a Throne (Cross) ...or have you Resurrected off a Throne?

[Revelation 20:4 KJV] And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: ...

"Live Again" is one Greek word ...aka Rebirth. It's Saying The Resurrection has two parts and they didn't start at the same time:​

Revelation 20:5 NKJV — But the rest of the dead did not live again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.

Daniel 12:2
2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.

John 5:28-29
28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,
29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.

Acts 24:14-15
14 But this I confess unto thee, that after the way which they call heresy, so worship I the God of my fathers, believing all things which are written in the law and in the prophets:
15 And have hope toward God, which they themselves also allow, that there shall be a resurrection of the dead, both of the just and unjust.

Revelation 20:13
13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.

JESUS' Coming was The Kingdom Coming around 70 A.D.:​

[2 Timothy 4:1 KJV] I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom;

//Paul said JESUS WILL Save him into His Kingdom ...The Kingdom wasn't there yet:

[2 Timothy 4:18 KJV] And the Lord shall deliver me from every evil work, and will preserve me unto his heavenly kingdom: to whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen.




There is a Resurrection of the Just ...That's the First Resurrection. Those in The First are Blessed ...doesn't Say they are in the Second:

Do you have a Seat at The Table of Righteousness in The Kingdom of GOD?​

Luke 14:14 KJV — And thou shalt be blessed; for they cannot recompense thee: for thou shalt be recompensed at the resurrection of the just.

Revelation 20:6 KJV — Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

Luke 14:15 KJV — And when one of them that sat at meat with him heard these things, he said unto him, Blessed is he that shall eat bread in the kingdom of God.

Ezekiel 44:16 KJV — They shall enter into my sanctuary, and they shall come near to my table, to minister unto me, and they shall keep my charge.

Acts 3:19 KJV — Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord;

Luke 22:30 KJV — That ye may eat and drink at my table in my kingdom, and sit on thrones judging the twelve tribes of Israel.

Isaiah 28:12 KJV — To whom he said, This is the rest wherewith ye may cause the weary to rest; and this is the refreshing: yet they would not hear.

King David helped someone under Saul eat at his table?

2 Samuel 9:3 KJV — And the king said, Is there not yet any of the house of Saul, that I may shew the kindness of God unto him? And Ziba said unto the king, Jonathan hath yet a son, which is lame on his feet.

2 Samuel 9:10-11 KJV — Thou therefore, and thy sons, and thy servants, shall till the land for him, and thou shalt bring in the fruits, that thy master's son may have food to eat: but Mephibosheth thy master's son shall eat bread alway at my table. Now Ziba had fifteen sons and twenty servants. Then said Ziba unto the king, According to all that my lord the king hath commanded his servant, so shall thy servant do. As for Mephibosheth, said the king, he shall eat at my table, as one of the king's sons.

 

[Reborn-Adopted]

Having your Door Closed to future sin is the same as Walking into The Gate of Heaven.​

i don't agree with every sentence he wrote here, but wow did he have some good insights:

Shiloh and the Gateway to God

One of the most famous visitors to the tabernacle that stood at Shiloh was Hannah. All she wanted was a son, but God had bigger plans.

www.oneforisrael.org

Mezuzah is from the root word to move, because it is through doorframes that we move from one area to another, one realm to another… and in the case of the gateway of God, we see the threshold between the realm of man and the realm of God.

Entering The GATE By Loving GOD with everything you got:​

““Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one. You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your might.”

And these words that I command you today shall be on your heart. You shall teach them diligently to your children, and shall talk of them when you sit in your house, and when you walk by the way, and when you lie down, and when you rise. You shall bind them as a sign on your hand, and they shall be as frontlets between your eyes. You shall write them on the doorposts [mezzuzahs] of your house and on your gates.” (Deuteronomy 6:4-9)

Elisha’s widow who is told to close the door just before her poverty was about to become a thing of the past. And of course, there’s the blood on the doorframes in the Exodus story of transition from slavery to freedom.

In John 10, Jesus made the declaration that He, Himself, was the door. He is our gateway.
“I am the gate; whoever enters through me will be saved.” (John 10:9)

Still sound like all you have to do is declare He is real?​

Jesus is the promised Messiah, and one of His names is Shiloh, in a prophecy from Genesis 49:10 –
“The scepter shall not depart from Judah, nor a lawgiver from between his feet, until Shiloh comes; And to Him shall be the obedience of the people.”

As Jacob was pronouncing prophetic blessings on all his twelve sons, his blessing for Judah included a Messianic promise: A ruler would come from the line of Judah. The scepter would be in His hands, and He will rule over the people. He is referred to as “Shiloh”. The Hebrew term is not easy to understand, but it links well with the gateway to God in the land of Samaria. In Shiloh people can meet God.

[Genesis 28:17 KJV] And he was afraid, and said, How dreadful is this place! this is none other but the house of God, and this is the gate of heaven.

If you are past The Gate of Heaven ...you have Angels being sent to you here in hell:​

John 1:50-51 KJV — Jesus answered and said unto him, Because I said unto thee, I saw thee under the fig tree, believest thou? thou shalt see greater things than these. And he saith unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Hereafter ye shall see heaven open, and the angels of God ascending and descending upon the Son of man.

Genesis 28:11-12 KJV — And he lighted upon a certain place, and tarried there all night, because the sun was set; and he took of the stones of that place, and put them for his pillows, and lay down in that place to sleep. And he dreamed, and behold a ladder set up on the earth, and the top of it reached to heaven: and behold the angels of God ascending and descending on it.

Luke 9:58 KJV — And Jesus said unto him, Foxes have holes, and birds of the air have nests; but the Son of man hath not where to lay his head.

Genesis 48:17 KJV — And when Joseph saw that his father laid his right hand upon the head of Ephraim, it displeased him: and he held up his father's hand, to remove it from Ephraim's head unto Manasseh's head.

A Ram is an older male sheep:​

Leviticus 8:18 KJV — And he brought the ram for the burnt offering: and Aaron and his sons laid their hands upon the head of the ram.

Flee to The Mountains ...because the false church was coming:​

Mark 13:14 KJV — But when ye shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing where it ought not, (let him that readeth understand,) then let them that be in Judaea flee to the mountains:​

The OT was Filled with symbolism of the false church. cain started the first one as he left The Presence of GOD.

[Genesis 4:16-17 KJV] And Cain went out from the presence of the LORD, and dwelt in the land of Nod, on the east of Eden.
[17] And Cain knew his wife; and she conceived, and bare Enoch: and he builded a city, and called the name of the city, after the name of his son, Enoch.

false churches are cities of hell.

after The Flood, canaan represented the first false church ...the first artificial Eve ...the first son/prince of satan ...the first seed of the serpent Gen 3:15 ...the first city of hell.

[Genesis 3:15 KJV] And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.

The Seed of The Woman:​

[Isaiah 11:1-2 KJV] And there shall come forth a rod out of the stem of Jesse, and a Branch shall grow out of his roots:
[2] And the spirit of the LORD shall rest upon him, the spirit of wisdom and understanding, the spirit of counsel and might, the spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the LORD;

canaan was the son of ham ...ham was an evil son of Noah ...ham is egypt ...canaan was in the Promise Land.

[Psalm 106:35-37 KJV] But were mingled among the heathen, and learned their works.​

[36] And they served their idols: which were a snare unto them.​

[37] Yea, they sacrificed their sons and their daughters unto devils,​

Psalm 106:38-39 KJV — And shed innocent blood, even the blood of their sons and of their daughters, whom they sacrificed unto the idols of Canaan: and the land was polluted with blood. Thus were they defiled with their own works, and went a whoring with their own inventions.​

 

[Reborn-Adopted]

GOD was drunk on The Promise Land Vineyard ...The Kingdom ...satan saw the Structure and made his own kingdom from it ...the false church.​

[Genesis 9:18-26 KJV] And the sons of Noah, that went forth of the ark, were Shem, and Ham, and Japheth: and Ham is the father of Canaan.
[19] These are the three sons of Noah: and of them was the whole earth overspread.
[20] And Noah began to be an husbandman, and he planted a vineyard:
[21] And he drank of the wine, and was drunken; and he was uncovered within his tent.
[22] And Ham, the father of Canaan, saw the nakedness of his father, and told his two brethren without.
[23] And Shem and Japheth took a garment, and laid it upon both their shoulders, and went backward, and covered the nakedness of their father; and their faces were backward, and they saw not their father's nakedness.
[24] And Noah awoke from his wine, and knew what his younger son had done unto him.
[25] And he said, Cursed be Canaan; a servant of servants shall he be unto his brethren.
[26] And he said, Blessed be the LORD God of Shem; and Canaan shall be his servant.

Noah was naked in his tent ...just like Adam and Eve were naked Before the fall. the serpent takes advantage of nakedness both times.​

cain, the first serpent church, killed Abel's Church.​

if you are still in the false church, He has not Set you Free yet. you are not free from the lies.​

iron teeth ...it's the false church jail cell. Have you been Set Free?​

Daniel 7:7 KJV — After this I saw in the night visions, and behold a fourth beast, dreadful and terrible, and strong exceedingly; and it had great iron teeth: it devoured and brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with the feet of it: and it was diverse from all the beasts that were before it; and it had ten horns.

Around 70 A.D.:
Luke 21:26 KJV — Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken.

protestant:

How do we know anything is real.

we are physical ...the question is ...where is your Spirit from ...that controls your physical body?


John 3:13 KJV — And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.

protestant:

I think my flesh controls me but okay. My Spirit is from heaven?

Are you Born of The SPIRIT ...or do you just say you are?

John 3:5-7 KJV — Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.

John 6:38 KJV — For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me.

protestant:

Are you saying we must do like wise, the will of the Father?

JESUS was our EXAMPLE ...He Called Himself The Son of Man for a Reason.​

protestant:

I know, but He was perfect

the only reason you think you can't stop sinning is because the false church tells you JESUS got on your personal Cross for you. you have not been Set Free.​

protestant:

the Bible says be holy because you Father is holy, how do we become as perfect as that?

Being set Free is Knowing The TRUTH ...do you Know JESUS? He Is The TRUTH:​

Hebrews 10:26 KJV — For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,

[Gal 2:17-18 KJV] But if, while we seek to be justified by Christ, we ourselves also are found sinners, is therefore Christ the minister of sin? God forbid. 18 For if I build again the things which I destroyed, I make myself a transgressor.

You know The Bible Says to be Perfect ...so you tell yourself you don't have to listen? you don't hear His Voice then ...to Know The TRUTH.​

you can't have a LORD if you are unwilling to listen and know Him. your false church has taught you to use CHRIST as your bellboy to cleanup new sins ...that's not a LORD.​

protestant:

Are you a sinner ?

understand there is a difference between a death sin and a sin that leads to death. street drugs and porn are obvious cases of death sin.

protestant:

I've never heard of death sin, but sin is sin right?

To Know GOD is to be in a Living Relationship with Him. sin is separation in that Relationship ...death sin.​

Genesis 2:17 KJV — But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.

protestant:

which church do you attend, are you trinitarian?

the Trinity is another lie. JESUS Is The HOLY SPIRIT. fyi, i spent years using street drugs and porn ...but i can tell you now ...if you don't stop ...you will never be Born of The SPIRIT.​

Being Born of The SPIRIT Is Walking past The Gate of Heaven. It's What It Means to Walk in The SPIRIT ...and not flesh. Your Spirit dies ...goes to Heaven ...then starts controlling you because it has JESUS' Yoke. You are now considered Born Again. They couldn't be Born Again until He Returned ...That's Why they needed Witnessed beforehand:

Romans 8:16 KJV — The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:

Romans 8:18-19 KJV — For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us. For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God.

1 Timothy 6:1 KJV — Let as many servants as are under the yoke count their own masters worthy of all honour, that the name of God and his doctrine be not blasphemed.

Ephesians 3:9-12 KJV — And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ: To the intent that now unto the principalities and powers in heavenly places might be known by the church the manifold wisdom of God, According to the eternal purpose which he purposed in Christ Jesus our Lord: In whom we have boldness and access with confidence by the faith of him.

John 3:16 is about Knowing The Wisdom of GOD.

Is your Spirit a good Ruler or a ruler of darkness?​

Romans 13:1-3 KJV — Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God. Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation. For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same:

Ephesians 6:12 KJV — For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

So it's not talking about obeying leaders of reprobates ...It's Talking about who runs your spirit.

Powers are about your Yoked Spirit:​

Hebrews 6:5 KJV — And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come,

Romans 8:38 KJV — For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come,

Colossians 1:16 KJV — For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:

His Resurrection Made our Yoked Spirits Possible:​

Colossians 2:15 KJV — And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it.

1 Peter 3:22 KJV — Who is gone into heaven, and is on the right hand of God; angels and authorities and powers being made subject unto him.

The LAMB didn't have your personal sins for His Slaughter. We are not Crucified every day after He Returned. Your old self is either Permanently on your Cross ...or not.​

Romans 8:36 KJV — As it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter.​

People think sheep Sacrifice continues in the same way that Jews did It ...it's an excuse to say their new sins are covered. Things Changed after He Returned.

Have you been Set Free of satan's mark of ownership? you are behind iron teeth if your old self isn't Crucified.​

 

[Reborn-Adopted]

this ends Eschatology as we know it.​

Dan 7 is CHRIST Returning and Jews/romans being the little horn attacking Christians beforehand ...Rev 13 is catholics ...same fourth beast that has a head, but this time with more of them.

the four beasts of Daniel 7 are female (kjv does not show you this), that means they are artificial Eve's (Spiritual help) ...just like cain's unnamed wife ...they are cities of hell ...kingdoms. they are seeds of the serpent. Gen 3:15

In Dan 7:20, the beast with 10 horns only had one head ...not 7.​

this beast is only described until CHRIST Returned

...it's the head with a deadly wound in Rev 13.​

[Daniel 7:20 KJV] And of the ten horns that were in his head, and of the other which came up, and before whom three fell; even of that horn that had eyes, and a mouth that spake very great things, whose look was more stout than his fellows.

Weird how Daniel doesn't ever Describe the false prophet ...the second beast of Rev 13, The Book of Daniel is Aimed at explaining Events to Jews ...not Gentiles after He Returned.

In Dan 7, CHRIST killed the beast on His Return and There was Judgment.

the other beasts were not killed in Dan 7 ...that is why only the fourth beast has a wounded head that healed in Rev 13. It is also why the three beast parts are not described as wounded.

Rev 13 has a mix of the four beasts. heads are mountains of a satanic kingdom of the sea. Rev 17:9 cities of hell.

Revelation 13:2-3 KJV — And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority. And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.

i find it curious the fourth beast has iron teeth in Dan 7 ...spiritual jail cell ...captivity.

like i said, the four beasts get mixed in Rev 13 ...sure sounds like it could have these attributes:

Jeremiah 15:2-4 KJV — And it shall come to pass, if they say unto thee, Whither shall we go forth? then thou shalt tell them, Thus saith the LORD; Such as are for death, to death; and such as are for the sword, to the sword; and such as are for the famine, to the famine; and such as are for the captivity, to the captivity. And I will appoint over them four kinds, saith the LORD: the sword to slay, and the dogs to tear, and the fowls of the heaven, and the beasts of the earth, to devour and destroy. And I will cause them to be removed into all kingdoms of the earth, ...

He sent them to kingdoms of hell.

[Revelation 13:9-10 KJV] If any man have an ear, let him hear. 10 He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints.

so now we know what that "captivity" meant in Rev 13:10. captivity in delusion (false church).

the fourth beast in Daniel 7 does some weird stamping:

[Daniel 7:7 KJV] After this I saw in the night visions, and behold a fourth beast, dreadful and terrible, and strong exceedingly; and it had great iron teeth: it devoured and brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with the feet of it: and it was diverse from all the beasts that were before it; and it had ten horns.

Feet in Scripture is about the path you are on. the false church is on a path to destruction/captivity ...it's the lie the serpent told to Eve ...that she wouldn't die.​

Isaiah 30:13-14 KJV — Therefore this iniquity shall be to you as a breach ready to fall, swelling out in a high wall, whose breaking cometh suddenly at an instant. And he shall break it as the breaking of the potters' vessel that is broken in pieces; he shall not spare: so that there shall not be found in the bursting of it a sherd to take fire from the hearth, or to take water withal out of the pit.

JESUS Destroys you by sending you to a beast ...to a false church.​

Isaiah 30:15 KJV — For thus saith the Lord GOD, the Holy One of Israel; In returning and rest shall ye be saved; in quietness and in confidence shall be your strength: and ye would not.

Jeremiah 15:6-7 KJV — Thou hast forsaken me, saith the LORD, thou art gone backward: therefore will I stretch out my hand against thee, and destroy thee; I am weary with repenting. And I will fan them with a fan in the gates of the land; I will bereave them of children, I will destroy my people, since they return not from their ways.

gates of hell ...gates of a city of hell.

LORD JESUS CHRIST Is a GOD Of JUDGMENT:

Isaiah 30:18 KJV — ...for the LORD is a God of judgment: blessed are all they that wait for him.


Daniel 7 is in Aramaic, not Hebrew ...satan knew This Chapter ends his church.

full preterism is ruined as things obviously didn't end in 70 A.D. ...and it ruins premills as the mark of the beast is being in a church that catholics started.

you can't be a calvinist without catholics starting your "church".​

Full preterists usually think because they know JESUS has already Returned that they must be right about everything else. You can’t be a typical full preterist without being a Calvinist.

They started by looking at JESUS’ Return and wondered how they could claim that means they have imputed righteousness now. Just like any other false church, they want to claim they are free to continue in sin.

they tell you they will never die again …so their sins don’t matter …they won’t directly say that part. Calvinists are all about you being elected and then you are automatically in The Kingdom after a night of Prayer/Repentance. A full preterist will likely tell you the year they did this magic prayer night as if Repentance is something you don’t have to uphold …they think JESUS Returned to give people an easy pass into His Kingdom.

GOD wants all men to be Saved. Election is GOD Knowing you Remain Faithful. you don't have It if you continue in deliberate death sin.

calvinists say JESUS was only on His Cross for the Elect ...this is a half truth ...He was on His Cross to make our own Cross Possible.​

1 Timothy 2:4 KJV — Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.​

1 Timothy 2:1 KJV — I exhort therefore, that, first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks, be made for all men;

Clean Conscience Christianity ...having The Door Closed to the death side of free will.​

if satan can mix/defile your conscience ...he can make you lose your confidence in FAITH. that's why he brings up your past and tries to make you think The SPIRIT is grieving you ...when you are not doing it anymore.

if you are not doing bad things anymore, then you shouldn't have a guilty conscience. and know it's just satan clowning around.

You want to maintain a good Conscience or it will get seared and you will stop caring about Obeying. it's saying you don't care anymore about GOD'S Definitions. a shipwrecked Faith. It has everything to do with your heart ...is GOD'S Definitions Written to it?​

1 Timothy 1:19 KJV — Holding faith, and a good conscience; which some having put away concerning faith have made shipwreck:

The Mosaic Law was not for The Righteous. It Was for people misbehaving... not Made for those Behaving. This was before they could have anything Written to their hearts.

1 Timothy 1:9 KJV — Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers,

calvinists say GOD made them Faithful: they say we are all totally depraved... that there are no good people. that GOD couldn't see anything good in us if He were to Elect us today. they are saying GOD can't see the future and that He can't trust us with Knowing The TRUTH. ....that He doesn't Find anyone and then Entrust them with things.

1 Timothy 1:12 KJV — And I thank Christ Jesus our Lord, who hath enabled me, for that he counted me faithful, putting me into the ministry;

 

[Reborn-Adopted]

this ends Full Preterism​

full preterists want to say GOD divorced north Israel ...and then divorced Physical Judah/Jerusalem in Revelation. New Jerusalem is Described in Rev 12 ...but then the dragon got in bed with her. Physical Jerusalem ended in The Chapter before in Rev 11 ...This is a major problem for full preterists ...because it means New Jerusalem became a city of hell ...a Babylon. it means Rev continued past 70 A.D.​

Ezekiel 23:17-19 KJV — And the Babylonians came to her into the bed of love, and they defiled her with their whoredom, and she was polluted with them, and her mind was alienated from them. So she discovered her whoredoms, and discovered her nakedness: then my mind was alienated from her, like as my mind was alienated from her sister. Yet she multiplied her whoredoms, in calling to remembrance the days of her youth, wherein she had played the harlot in the land of Egypt.

Ezekiel 23:22 KJV — Therefore, O Aholibah, thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I will raise up thy lovers against thee, from whom thy mind is alienated, and I will bring them against thee on every side;

it had already happened before:​

[Genesis 9:22 KJV] And Ham, the father of Canaan, saw the nakedness of his father, and told his two brethren without.

Garden City of TRUTH: CHRIST'S Eve. you are not joining The City of Heaven on a Mountain unless you become a Slaughtered Lamb also. Get your old self on your Cross. Rom 6​

Zechariah 8:3-8 KJV — Thus saith the LORD; I am returned unto Zion, and will dwell in the midst of Jerusalem: and Jerusalem shall be called a city of truth; and the mountain of the LORD of hosts the holy mountain. Thus saith the LORD of hosts; There shall yet old men and old women dwell in the streets of Jerusalem, and every man with his staff in his hand for very age. And the streets of the city shall be full of boys and girls playing in the streets thereof. Thus saith the LORD of hosts; If it be marvellous in the eyes of the remnant of this people in these days, should it also be marvellous in mine eyes? saith the LORD of hosts. Thus saith the LORD of hosts; Behold, I will save my people from the east country, and from the west country; And I will bring them, and they shall dwell in the midst of Jerusalem: and they shall be my people, and I will be their God, in truth and in righteousness.

 

[Reborn-Adopted]

Flee to The Mountains ...because the false church was coming ...abomination of desolation.​

Mark 13:14 KJV — But when ye shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing where it ought not, (let him that readeth understand,) then let them that be in Judaea flee to the mountains:

full preterist:

Where is Judea today?

Why does that matter? We are in the New Age. They were still in The Mosaic Age ...with the false church about to start. ....you know, when imputed Righteousness started.

full preterist:

Do you never consider the audience? Jesus told THE APOSTLES when THEY SAW the abomination of desolation those in Judea were to FLEE to the mountains. This prophecy was for THEM 2000 years ago! Can you not read with understanding?

abomination of desolation is satan getting in bed with New Jerusalem. it's when the lie started that JESUS had your personal sins with Him on His Cross ...imputed Righteousness.​

full preterist:

The abomination of desolation was in JERUSALEM, in the TEMPLE, 2000 years ago! You are so far from KNOWING Him!

the mark of the beast is being in new jerusalem as she is in bed with the dragon ...the false church.

2 Thessalonians 2:8-11 KJV — And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

full preterist:

You DENY the audience this letter was written to and DENY the finished work of Christ. Praise Him for keeping the devils out of God’s righteous kingdom on earth. I pray you will repent.

the beast and false prophet are from new jerusalem... children of ham (son of Noah).​

so they were made from the abomination of desolation ...the dragon is their father.​

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[Revelation 18:4 KJV] And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.

i know the beast is catholics because they have a tabernacle:​

Revelation 13:6 KJV — And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.

the false prophet is their version of JESUS' HOLY SPIRIT: false prophet spirit.​

Revelation 13:11 KJV — And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.

[Revelation 19:10 KJV] ...I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren that have the testimony of Jesus: worship God: for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.

abomination of desolation frogs:​

Revelation 16:13 KJV — And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.

full preterist:

The Jewish beast came just as Jesus came 2000 years ago! There are no dragons, no beasts, no false prophets, no liars inside His kingdom today. You are OUTSIDE. You have no authority in His kingdom.

 

[Reborn-Adopted]

what else is more fitting to call an abomination of desolation?​

the abomination of desolation is satan having sex with GOD'S Wife to make the false church.​

Jews delt with a compromised Wife also ...they worshiped other gods ....hello.

Matthew 22:2-3 KJV — The kingdom of heaven is like unto a certain king, which made a marriage for his son, And sent forth his servants to call them that were bidden to the wedding: and they would not come.

the whole point of wrong Eschatology is to make it sound like their church isn't a child of satan. Knowing satan started the beast and false prophet from The Mother Church ...means your church is likely wrong.​

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Eve is the Mother of all The Living ...and the serpent took advantage of her also.

if you leave the false church ...but then keep their Eschatology ....good grief, i have bad news for you. it is a Salvation issue as you are not Saved thinking you don't have to be on your own Cross.​

Rev 12 is GOD'S New Wife ...then satan gets in bed with her to make the beast and false prophet.

every church that says JESUS had their personal sins on His Cross is a child of satan. that's the same thing as imputed righteousness.​

Revelation 12:14 KJV — And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.

Zechariah 5:7-11 KJV — And, behold, there was lifted up a talent of lead: and this is a woman that sitteth in the midst of the ephah. And he said, This is wickedness. And he cast it into the midst of the ephah; and he cast the weight of lead upon the mouth thereof. Then lifted I up mine eyes, and looked, and, behold, there came out two women, and the wind was in their wings; for they had wings like the wings of a stork: and they lifted up the ephah between the earth and the heaven. Then said I to the angel that talked with me, Whither do these bear the ephah? And he said unto me, To build it an house in the land of Shinar: and it shall be established, and set there upon her own base.


shinar is Babylon

She was only Nourished for 3.5 years ...guess what happened after?

if Rev 13 already happened ...premills don't have an antichrist for their made up story. surprise... they are the antichrist

the dragon was Bound for a thousand years so he gave all his power to his false church daughters that he made with The New Bride ...the beast and false prophet. the 10 horned beast in Daniel 7 was a female ...so why wouldn't this one be? a she because that's what a false church is.

[Revelation 13:2 KJV] And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.

[Revelation 2:13 KJV] I know thy works, and where thou dwellest, even where Satan's seat is: and thou holdest fast my name, and hast not denied my faith, even in those days wherein Antipas was my faithful martyr, who was slain among you, where Satan dwelleth.

you can't be a calvinist without the catholic core lie that JESUS had your personal sins on His Cross. it's the false prophet making an image of the beast.​

calvinist:

"LORD circumcises the heart to love the LORD with all thine heart. We can't truly love the LORD before he does this."

Deuteronomy 30:6 And the LORD thy God will circumcise thine heart, and the heart of thy seed, to love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, that thou mayest live.

Jews had a different Covenant ...the Verse before: ... and they did not have Circumcised Hearts ...we do.​

Deuteronomy 30:5 KJV — And the LORD thy God will bring thee into the land which thy fathers possessed, and thou shalt possess it; and he will do thee good, and multiply thee above thy fathers.

Their Covenant was about Prosperity ...ours definitely is not.​

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GOD Knows the future, He Knows if you Remain on your own personal Cross That His Death and Resurrection Made Possible. That's who He Elects ...not people continuing is deliberate sin.​

calvinist:

Jude 1:3
Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints.

Why would we faint/quit unless we have to get our old selves on a Cross also? JESUS Authored The WAY for you to have FAITH:​

Hebrews 12:2-4 KJV — Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God. For consider him that endured such contradiction of sinners against himself, lest ye be wearied and faint in your minds.

[4] Ye have not yet resisted unto blood, striving against sin.​

They hadn't died on their own personal Cross yet!!! the false church reads This and says ..."and i never will".​

he makes a good point in the quote, why is the church telling you JESUS Paid your debt if you need to do all this stuff?​

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the false church is designed to tell you that your personal debt was paid by JESUS on His Cross so that you don't have to get on your own ...that's why they give you all those "chores" to do ...it's their way of avoiding getting on a Cross.​

some guy:

I use to hear people say when you believe in christ all of your debts are paid (sin debts) but I would hear from those same kind of people that I OWE my life to Jesus due to him dying on the cross for my sins. Which means I must attend church two to three times a week , give offerings, go on mission trips, serve in whatever church building I'm in, help the homeless (which is something I'm not against by the way in fact I think it's a good idea), spend a ton of time in prayer and fasting, join life groups, submit and listen to your life group leader (even if you disagree with their interpretation of the Bible) also the same with your pastor, along with being a American citizen following all the laws posing a good image even through trails and tribulations. If you think about all of that, that doesn't sound like my debt has been paid, actually sounds like I owe more debt then before.

we all have a debt we couldn't pay ...the Key difference is your personal debt is paid by using your Cross That JESUS Made Possible.​

 

[Reborn-Adopted]

JESUS' Resurrection Made It so we Could Raise with Him ...but we have to get on our own Cross before That can Happen. Rom 6​

i think satan resurrects the dead of the second resurrection. why would GOD allow such a thing? GOD hands people over the destroyer ...why not for this?

[Isaiah 54:16 NIV] "See, it is I who created the blacksmith who fans the coals into flame and forges a weapon fit for its work. And it is I who have created the destroyer to wreak havoc;

The two part Resurrection of Rev 20 has nothing to do with physical bodies raising for either.​

if you are raised to destruction then your spirit is dead, blind, and in delusion. you will Not be in a Living Relationship with GOD. the dead today obviously think they are Born Again.

satan resurrects life into people for them to be in his false church:

Revelation 13:15 KJV — And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.​

not literally killed ...that your Relationship with GOD would be killed if you were not in their false church.

the first beast lasted a thousand years ...that's why the false prophet makes an image.​

what does it speak? that JESUS had your personal sins on His Cross so you don't have to get on One.

the serpent told Eve that she wouldn't die ...that her Relationship with GOD wouldn't die.

So Rev 20 is about your Relationship Status with GOD. Which Image were you Raised to?​

Revelation 21:4
"He will wipe away every tear from their eyes, and death shall be no more, neither shall there be mourning, nor crying, nor pain anymore, for the former things have passed away." And He who was seated on the throne said, "Behold, I am making all things new

 

[Reborn-Adopted]

deadbeats read This and say ..see, JESUS did it all on The Cross so i don't have to get on my own:​

John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

protestant:

So are you trusting in your own ability to get on your own cross for your salvation

The Way, in your eyes, is to "receive" Salvation without your own Cross.

protestant:

No actually you are wrong. I have died to self according to the scriptures. The Holy Spirit has empowered me to walk in the Spirit and not the flesh. He produces His fruit in me. The scripture states to deny yourself daily and take up your cross.(Luke 9:23) That btw means to take up your cross. There is only one worthy to get on a cross and be the perfect Lamb of God. You don't qualify.

You are trying to get people on their own cross without even washing in the blood of Jesus Christ to be filled with His Spirit which produces Righteous acts which are the fine linen of the Saints. You have not washed yourself in the blood of the Lamb and are found naked without wedding garments on.

the false prophet spirit con is to say if we get on our own Cross then we are not using CHRIST'S Righteousness to do It ...but what the she beast doesn't tell you is that JESUS' Righteousness Is What Made getting on our own Cross Possible. they setup multiple imaginary road blocks where you also have to Wash in His Blood first.​

protestant:

“Sir,” I answered, “you know.” So he replied, “These are the ones who have come out of the great tribulation; they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb. (Revelation 7:14)

11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death. (Revelation 12:11)

Of course we Wash in His Blood ...what you are doing is saying we Wash in It instead of getting on our own Cross.

protestant:

We are buried with Christ in baptism. And raised to His resurrection life.
Walking in the Spirit and not your flesh is how you take up your cross. The wise virgins had oil in their lamps--Holy Spirit. The foolish virgins ran out of oil and went to buy the oil--they were relying on what they did; and the Holy Spirit can't be bought.

Yes, They Walked in The SPIRIT and not their flesh to take up their Cross ...they were before 70 A.D. ...where do you think they were Following Him to? Hello, It was to get on their own Cross in 70 A.D.​

Luke 12:49-51 KJV — I am come to send fire on the earth; and what will I, if it be already kindled? But I have a baptism to be baptized with; and how am I straitened till it be accomplished! Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay; but rather division:

John 13:36 KJV — Simon Peter said unto him, Lord, whither goest thou? Jesus answered him, Whither I go, thou canst not follow me now; but thou shalt follow me afterwards.

do we "receive" His Blood that we Wash in?

we Wash in His Blood by getting Crucified. That's The Whole Point!!!​

JESUS Is The Son Of Man ...our EXAMPLE. He got Fire Baptized so that when we get Crucified ...we are Fire Baptized also. It's How we Wash in His Blood.​

Mark 10:39 KJV — And they said unto him, We can. And Jesus said unto them, Ye shall indeed drink of the cup that I drink of; and with the baptism that I am baptized withal shall ye be baptized:

and then the next Verse:
[40] — But to sit on my right hand and on my left hand is not mine to give; but it shall be given to them for whom it is prepared.

Do you know who those people are to sit on His Right and Left? i think it's the two thieves next to CHRIST on The Cross.


protestant:

None of those scriptures point to your false doctrine that // He got Fire Baptized so that when we get Crucified ...we are Fire Baptized also. It's How we Wash in His Blood.//

Not sure how you expect His Blood from His Cross to get on you unless you were on a Cross also.​

protestant:

Jesus Christ drew ALL men unto Himself when He was lifted up as the perfect Lamb of God that takes away the sins of the world. His blood was given ONCE for ALL.
We are saved by GRACE THROUGH FAITH--BY WHAT BE BELIEVE!!! Just like Abraham as it is written in Genesis 15:6 And he believed in the LORD; and he counted it to him for righteousness.

oh, i see, you think The Scripture is saying everyone was drawn to His Body on His Cross ...again very clever. automatically being covered in His Blood ...you really are the false prophet spirit.

protestant:

John 12:32 32 And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me.

We Lift JESUS Up by getting on our own Cross. All men who do so are Drawn to Him.

John 8:28 KJV — Then said Jesus unto them, When ye have lifted up the Son of man, then shall ye know that I am he, and that I do nothing of myself; but as my Father hath taught me, I speak these things.

JESUS on a Cross did not have the option of the death side of free will. ...so we don't either when on a Cross.

John 8:32 KJV — And ye shall know the truth, and​

the truth shall make you free.​

i Know The TRUTH. There is no more Sacrifice for sin after you have Washed in His Blood from being on your own Cross.​

Hebrews 10:26 KJV — For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,

Free from the lies... Free from needing more Blood because we Know The TRUTH and don't want to sin.​

 

[Reborn-Adopted]

Washing in His Blood on your Cross Is Washing in The TRUTH.​

If you are on your own Cross, you Know you don't have access to the death side of free will anymore ...you are Free from it.

Getting on your own Cross is Knowing The TRUTH.​

Hebrews 10:26 KJV — For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,

They Knew The TRUTH: White Clothing is Righteous TRUTH:​

Revelation 7:14 KJV — And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.

In Scripture, what you are Clothed in is a big deal.

John 16:33
"In the world you will have tribulation. But take heart; I have overcome the world."

The Blood of Abel cried out ...so did they:​

The Altar Is The Cross.​

They couldn't Remain on their own Cross until He Returned. They Knew The TRUTH.

Revelation 6:9-11 KJV — And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held: And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth? And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled.

Righteous TRUTH Blood:​

Matthew 23:35 KJV — That upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zacharias son of Barachias, whom ye slew between the temple and the altar.

Their Generation ...70 A.D.:

Luke 11:51 KJV — From the blood of Abel unto the blood of Zacharias, which perished between the altar and the temple: verily I say unto you, It shall be required of this generation.

Mount Zion is a City of Heaven: not a city of a valley ...we are not still waiting for New Jerusalem to Start.​

Hebrews 12:22-23 KJV — But ye are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels, To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect,

We can be Made Perfect right now.

"Written in Heaven" is The LAMB'S Book of LIFE.​

Hebrews 10:1 KJV — For the law having a shadow of good things to come, and not the very image of the things, can never with those sacrifices which they offered year by year continually make the comers thereunto perfect.

Being on a Cross is Being Made Perfect and Entering The Kingdom ...The City of Heaven.​

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Being on your Cross Is Being Born in The Image from Heaven.​

The Arm of The LORD is JESUS on His Cross Pointing to you getting on your own Cross.​

John 12:37-38
37 But though he had done so many miracles before them, yet they believed not on him: 38 That the saying of Esaias the prophet might be fulfilled, which he spake, Lord, who hath believed our report? and to whom hath the arm of the Lord been revealed?

Revelation 21:7 KJV — He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.​

Isaiah 41:10 (NIV)
"So do not fear, for I am with you; do not be dismayed, for I am your God. I will strengthen you and help you; I will uphold you with my righteous right hand."

The suffering of our own souls is Being Crucified!

His offspring. JESUS' Days were Prolonged after He Rose ...but is It Talking about His Children? Maybe Both. JESUS was The First Born.

1 Corinthians 15:38 KJV — But God giveth it a body as it hath pleased him, and to every seed his own body.

1 Peter 1:23 KJV — Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.

1 John 3:9 KJV — Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

The First Born of GOD'S New Wife ...New Jerusalem ...The City of Heaven.​

[Revelation 12:4 KJV] And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.

Hebrews 2:11 KJV — For both he that sanctifieth and they who are sanctified are all of one: for which cause he is not ashamed to call them brethren,

JESUS Is The First and Last Born Because He is The Righteous DOOR.​

John 16:33
"In the world you will have tribulation. But take heart; I have overcome the world."

Genesis 37:23 KJV — And it came to pass, when Joseph was come unto his brethren, that they stript Joseph out of his coat, his coat of many colours that was on him;

Romans 8:29 KJV — For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.

Philippians 1:14 KJV — And many of the brethren in the Lord, waxing confident by my bonds, are much more bold to speak the word without fear.

This Says His Return was like labor pains ...wow have you written a ridiculous story:​

JESUS isn't going to come to the Born Again like a Thief because He isn't going to Judge away your Eternal LIFE if you already have It. You either Know GOD or you don't.​

we were already like the thief that Repented next to JESUS on The Cross ...we are not a thief after being Crucified ourselves.

 

[Reborn-Adopted]

Luke 8:11 KJV — Now the parable is this: The seed is the word of God.​

You can not Know GOD without Words. you can't be in an Everlasting Relationship without CHRIST'S WORDS.​

John 17:3 KJV — And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.

John 6:67-68 KJV — Then said Jesus unto the twelve, Will ye also go away? Then Simon Peter answered him, Lord, to whom shall we go? thou hast the words of eternal life.

If The Seed is The Word ...then the serpent has words also ...false church words of delusion.​

Genesis 3:15 KJV — And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.

fowls of the air ...are fallen angels working for the devil:​

Luke 8:5 KJV — A sower went out to sow his seed: and as he sowed, some fell by the way side; and it was trodden down, and the fowls of the air devoured it.

Luke 8:12 KJV — Those by the way side are they that hear; then cometh the devil, and taketh away the word out of their hearts, lest they should believe and be saved.

how does the devil do that? twisting WORD.​

There is Seed from The Tree of LIFE ...and seed from the tree of knowledge of good and evil ...man's doctrine.​

[Amos 9:8-9 KJV] Behold, the eyes of the Lord GOD are upon the sinful kingdom, and I will destroy it from off the face of the earth; saving that I will not utterly destroy the house of Jacob, saith the LORD.
[9] For, lo, I will command, and I will sift the house of Israel among all nations, like as corn is sifted in a sieve, yet shall not the least grain fall upon the earth.

so what seed did fall on the earth? satan's seed ...the beast and false prophet. the first beast of Rev 13 started right after 70 A.D.​

Revelation 12:9 KJV — And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

fowls of the air​

Branch from SEED​

Jer 33:15-16 In those days, and at that time, will I cause the Branch of righteousness to grow up unto David; and he shall execute judgment and righteousness in the land.16 In those days shall Judah be saved, and Jerusalem shall dwell safely: and this is the name wherewith she shall be called, The LORD our righteousness.

full preterist:

You believe Jesus left the dragon, that old serpent, the devil, Satan, in authority of God’s righteous SPIRITUAL kingdom on earth?
That’s completely BLASPHEMOUS!

ham had sex with Noah's wife ...same thing here.

JESUS Is The Door of Righteousness for you to get on your own Cross.​

He Is our Righteousness ...but you are insane if you think you have His Righteousness as you continue in sin.​

Jer 23:6 In his days Judah shall be saved, and Israel shall dwell safely: and this is his name whereby he shall be called, THE LORD OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS.

if your doctrine somehow makes sin not sin anymore for you ...you have not been Crucified.​

they all got Kicked from The Relationship with GOD ...death:​

Romans 5:13-14 KJV — (For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law. Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come.

sin is separation that leads to a dead Relationship with GOD. if you are doing a death sin like street drugs or illicit videos ...then the Relationship is already dead.

there is no sin nature, it's a lie of the false church to say you can't stop.​

James 1:15 KJV — Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death.

1 Corinthians 15:55-56 KJV — O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory? The sting of death is sin; and the strength of sin is the law.

[Revelation 21:4 KJV] And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.

Proverbs 11:7 KJV — When a wicked man dieth, his expectation shall perish: and the hope of unjust men perisheth.​

you are not Righteous unless you stop causing separation in The Relationship with GOD:​

Romans 5:21 KJV — That as sin hath reigned unto death, even so might grace reign through righteousness unto eternal life by Jesus Christ our Lord.​

Romans 6:16-18 — Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness? But God be thanked, that ye were the servants of sin, but ye have obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine which delivered you. Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness.

are you still free from Righteousness? the false church lie that you don't have to be on your own Cross to be Righteous is keeping you in hell.​

Romans 6:20 KJV — For when ye were the servants of sin, ye were free from righteousness.

[Ephesians 2:1 KJV] And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins;

If Stopping sin is a struggle for you ...you have not been Set Free yet ...you don't Know JESUS yet ...you don't Know The TRUTH yet.​

protestant:

I know that every born again believer still has their human sin nature until the day our heart stop beating and we stop breathing.
I know that God's word says ..
That ((( IF ))) we sin, we advocate in heaven; Christ Jesus..
And I know that if we struggle with temptation that we are to pray for strength to resist temptation.

you are saying there is more Sacrifice ...there isn't:

Hebrews 10:26 KJV — For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,

protestant:

[Luke 24:46-47 KJV] And said unto them, Thus it is written, and thus it behoved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day:
[47] And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.

So you read That and say ...oh, goodie, JESUS Is handing out free coverage of sins

The Verse Before:
[Luke 24:45 KJV] Then opened he their understanding, that they might understand the scriptures,

protestant:

Technically we will all be tempted to sin until we get Heavenly bodies atleast.. Take Lucifer as an example..

pentecostal response:

Sin starts in the mind which goes to the heart, so is purity and holiness starts in the mind.
The culprit of all sinning isn't the flesh, but the devil who rebelled against God.
The devil has no flesh and blood so people need to stop pointing a finger to their flesh.
You cannot make excuses and blame your flesh as to why you never cease from sin.

it's very typical for those in the false church today to claim they need physical Resurrected bodies to be Forced on The Narrow WAY.

The couldn't have Eternal LIFE until He Returned. That's why they were in a race ...you are not in a race.​

Everlasting Relationship with GOD:

Romans 6:22-23 KJV — But now being made free from sin, and become servants to God, ye have your fruit unto holiness, and the end everlasting life. For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.​

 

[Reborn-Adopted]

The LIGHT from a Door Opening:​

Matthew 4:16
The people who sat in darkness have seen
a great light,
And upon those who sat in the region and shadow of death
Light has dawned.

JESUS Is The Door of Righteousness for you to get on your own Cross ...but you are insane if you think you have His Righteousness as you continue in sin.​

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insane if you think you are on The Other Side of That Door ...The Living SIDE. The LIVING Relationship. That you are in The Reborn Living Image.​

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The Branch from The Tree of LIFE Is That Door:​

Jer 33:15-16 In those days, and at that time, will I cause the Branch of righteousness to grow up unto David; and he shall execute judgment and righteousness in the land.16 In those days shall Judah be saved, and Jerusalem shall dwell safely: and this is the name wherewith she shall be called, The LORD our righteousness.

They couldn't Remain on their own Cross until He Returned and This Next Verse Screams It: They couldn't Walk through The Door yet. They couldn't Finish The Race yet ...you have no excuse today. What's on The Other Side of The Door? Your personal Born Again Cross.​

Romans 8:36 KJV — As it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter.

the only reason people defend the possibility of falling away still is because they don't want JESUS to have already Returned. can you forget how to Ride a Bike?​

[1 Peter 1:3-5 KJV] Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,
[4] To an inheritance incorruptible, and undefiled, and that fadeth not away, reserved in heaven for you,
[5] Who are kept by the power of God through faith unto salvation ready to be revealed in the last time.

Do you think you have access to the death side of free will as you are on that Born Again Cross you claimed to be on?​

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The Day of Wrath Is Following JESUS onto your own Cross:​

Proverbs 11:4-5 KJV — Riches profit not in the day of wrath: but righteousness delivereth from death. The righteousness of the perfect shall direct his way: but the wicked shall fall by his own wickedness.

their Relationship with GOD, died ...they didn't finish the race:

Proverbs 11:7 KJV — When a wicked man dieth, his expectation shall perish: and the hope of unjust men perisheth.

abomination of desolation: the false church.

Jeremiah 10:20-22 My tabernacle is spoiled, and all my cords are broken: my children are gone forth of me, and they are not: there is none to stretch forth my tent any more, and to set up my curtains.
21 For the pastors are become brutish, and have not sought the Lord: therefore they shall not prosper, and all their flocks shall be scattered.
22 Behold, the noise of the bruit is come, and a great commotion out of the north country, to make the cities of Judah desolate, and a den of dragons.

Revelation 13:6 KJV — And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.

"them that dwell in heaven" = Them that Dwell beyond The Gates of Heaven in The City of Heaven.

do you think there are Saved people in all types of churches? do these "saints" know they have to be on their own Cross? ...no, of course not ...they are all in a system that says JESUS was on His Cross so you don't have to be.​

it's like saying JESUS was from Heaven so we don't have to be.

 

[Reborn-Adopted]

Why would GOD send you to The White Throne Judgment if you are already from Heaven? They couldn't be from Heaven yet before He Returned.​

protestant:

It is written we are already seated in Heavenly places. And there is only one who has come from Heaven, Jesus Christ.

John 3:13 KJV — And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.

protestant:

Yes that is what I am referring to.

you are saying we don't have to be from Heaven also.

protestant:

I'm saying what the scriptures state.

you have zero concept of being Born Again.

protestant:

I know what it is to be born again by the Spirit, hear His voice, and be continually filled.
I don't fill myself with vain imagainations that are not biblically based. If you think you have some knowledge, then just post the scripture that backs it up. Post a scripture that says we who are believers have come down from Heaven.

i'm Born from The City of Heaven on a Mountain ...New Jerusalem.​

Matthew 8:11-12 KJV — And I say unto you, That many shall come from the east and west, and shall sit down with Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, in the kingdom of heaven. But the children of the kingdom shall be cast out into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

John 6:38 KJV — For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me.

Revelation 21:7 KJV — He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.

protestant:

None of those scriptures state you came down from Heaven. And none state you are born again from The City of Heaven on a Mountain ...New Jerusalem. smh

You don't read This right:

John 3:12-13 KJV — If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you of heavenly things? And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.

you are not going to Heaven unless you were Born from The City of Heaven First.​

protestant:

Scripture that supports your claim that you are born of the city of Heaven.
Jesus Christ said you must be born again of the Spirit. I only listen to Him.

Galatians 4:26 KJV — But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.

Revelation 12:1 KJV — And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:

JESUS Was The FIRSTBORN of The City of Heaven.​

The First of what? More of those Born from GOD'S New Wife that made herself ready.

[Revelation 19:7-9 KJV] Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife hath made herself ready.
[8] And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints.
[9] And he saith unto me, Write, Blessed are they which are called unto the marriage supper of the Lamb. And he saith unto me, These are the true sayings of God.

 

[Reborn-Adopted]

Are you Born of The New Relationship with GOD or are you born of satan's relationship with GOD'S Bride?​

A City of Heaven Relationship has already passed away:​

Matthew 5:18 KJV — For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

The Mosaic Wife (Relationship) has already ended and become desolate ...which is the moon that New Jerusalem is Standing on right before the abomination of desolation.​

Jerusalem is a Mother ...a Spirit that Grieves ...we have to be Born of The SPIRIT. Be Born of The New City of Heaven Relationship.​

Baruch 4:
8 You forgot the everlasting God, who brought you up,
and you grieved Jerusalem, who reared you.
12 Let no one rejoice over me, a widow
and bereaved of many;
I was left desolate because of the sins of my children,
because they turned away from the law of God.

Jeremiah 50:12 KJV — Your mother shall be sore confounded; she that bare you shall be ashamed: behold, the hindermost of the nations shall be a wilderness, a dry land, and a desert.

New Jerusalem was only Nourished for 3.5 years ...and then the Hedge was removed: ...allowing satan to make children with Her ...abomination of desolation.​

Isaiah 5:5-6 KJV — And now go to; I will tell you what I will do to my vineyard: I will take away the hedge thereof, and it shall be eaten up; and break down the wall thereof, and it shall be trodden down: And I will lay it waste: it shall not be pruned, nor digged; but there shall come up briers and thorns: I will also command the clouds that they rain no rain upon it.

The New Relationship Says Come: Walk Through The New Relationship Door:​

[Revelation 22:17 KJV]

And the Spirit and the bride say, Come.​

And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely.

Be Born of The SPIRIT through His Bride!!!​

sound familiar? it's giving JESUS your personal sins on His Cross so you don't have to be on One. what relationship do you think you have?:​

Matthew 21:38-39 KJV — But when the husbandmen saw the son, they said among themselves, This is the heir; come, let us kill him, and let us seize on his inheritance. And they caught him, and cast him out of the vineyard, and slew him.​

 

[Reborn-Adopted]

FAITH​

do you start to see the house of cards falling like i do? If we are Born of The SPIRIT'S Bride ...then what are you "receiving"? You are not Born Again unless you Walked through The Door to your own Born Again Cross and only Then Wash in His Righteous Blood ...because Being on a Cross is Being in His Image!​

They were in a Race to Finish their Faith ...is your Faith not Finished yet? Do you think you continue to be Chastened every day after you have Walked through The Righteous Door?​

[Hebrews 12:2 KJV]

Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith;​

who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.

protestant:

You received FAITH, which is a gift from God, BEFORE you walked through the Door which is Jesus Christ.

If you didn't make it through The Righteous Door ...then you have a shipwrecked Faith. You don't have a Finished Faith.​

1 Timothy 1:19 KJV — Holding faith, and a good conscience; which some having put away concerning faith have made shipwreck:

a shipwreck means GOD'S Definitions are still not Written to your Heart. You are not Born from The City of GOD.​

protestant:

He is the author and finisher of our faith.
Ephesians 2:8–9 affirms this: “By grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God; not as a result of works, so that no one may boast.” Faith is a gift from God!

Being able to Walk through That Door IS THE GIFT OF FAITH. It's Being Able to Finish. It's Being Able to Be in His Image as His child. You didn't do works to be able to Walk Through That Door. JESUS Made It Possible!!!​

protestant arminian:

For those who are wondering:
No, I don’t believe in the Once Saved Always Saved (OSAS) doctrine. I believe my salvation is secured in Christ Jesus through His Finished Work at Calvary by His blood in the New Covenant, and all I have to do to receive such gift is by faith alone through grace. And I also do believe that at any given moment, one can lose their salvation by turning their backs on the Lord and walking away to be handed over to the devil. Thank you.

do you see how she twisted what a Finished Faith is? she is saying we don't have to Walk through The Door. who in the world would turn their back on The LORD after they are on a Born Again Cross? that doesn't make any sense.

calvinists are obviously wrong with thinking they won't be punished for sin ...but arminians are not as easy to see why. they both play the game of saying JESUS had their personal sins on His Cross, so they don't have to be on One ...but armenians go nuts with free will ...they want access to the death side of free will while being on a Born Again Cross ...doesn't work that way.

do you think GOD would go against His Own Definitions of good and evil? No, then what free will does He have?

these clowns are trying to say GOD has access to the death side of free will like they do ...to explain why they have access.

 

[Reborn-Adopted]

Romans 8: This Chapter is Describing people waiting for their Faith to be Finished:​

You won't be condemned if you end up on your own Cross:​

[Romans 8:1 KJV] There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

The Other Side of The Righteous Door is CHRIST'S Law of LIFE ...you would then be Free from the death side of The Door.​

[Romans 8:2 KJV] For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.

Mosaic Law was weak until FAITH Came. CHRIST Condemned flesh sin by Getting on a Cross ...It wasn't automatic sin forgiveness for you to continue in it.​

[Romans 8:3 KJV] For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:

[Galatians 3:25 KJV] But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.

You don't get That Righteousness unless your intent is to Walk Past The Door to The Other Side:​

[Romans 8:4 KJV] That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

Even Before He Returned, a carnal mind only cared about their flesh ...the physical. Those Striving for The SPIRIT were Counted Faithful:​

[Romans 8:5 KJV] For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.

carnal is death to your Relationship with GOD:​

[Romans 8:6 KJV] For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.

they don't care what LIFE or death is in Scripture:​

[Romans 8:7-8 KJV] Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
[8] So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.

The SPIRIT could be in you while they were in a Race to be able to Finish their Faith ...but what excuse do you have?:​

[Romans 8:9 KJV] But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

They had dead bodies while having The SPIRIT'S LIFE in them ...if you are doing flesh sin today ...you are not Born Again:​

[Romans 8:10 KJV] And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.

They didn't have Quickened bodies until He Returned:​

[Romans 8:11 KJV] But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.

They had to die daily because of their flesh ...This is Saying if they didn't Mortify the deeds of the flesh ...that their Relationship with GOD would die:​

[Romans 8:12-13 KJV] Therefore, brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh.
[13] For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.

They had to fight their flesh daily and if they didn't let The SPIRIT Combat it ...they were not Sons of GOD:​

[Romans 8:14 KJV] For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.

The spirit of bondage is the death side of The Door. They had The SPIRIT of Adoption ...because they were not Adopted yet:​

[Romans 8:15 KJV] For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.

CHRIST'S SPIRIT Witnessed if you were going to Make It Through The Door:​

[Romans 8:16 KJV] The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:

[2 Thessalonians 1:11 KJV] Wherefore also we pray always for you, that our God would count you worthy of this calling, and fulfil all the good pleasure of his goodness, and the work of faith with power:

They didn't Inherit a Finished Faith until The End. They had to suffer with their awful flesh being annoying every day.​

[Romans 8:17 KJV] And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.

They had to be patient ...you have no excuse:​

[Romans 8:18 KJV] For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us.

They were waiting to be Manifested ....Born Again:​

[Romans 8:19 KJV] For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God.

You don't need Hope after you are Officially Adopted:​

[Romans 8:20 KJV] For the creature was made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of him who hath subjected the same in hope,

[1 Thessalonians 1:3-4 KJV] Remembering without ceasing your work of faith, and labour of love, and patience of hope in our Lord Jesus Christ, in the sight of God and our Father;
[4] Knowing, brethren beloved, your election of God.

If you are Born of The City of Heaven ...you are not fighting you flesh every day:​

[Romans 8:21 KJV] Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God.

Light at The End of a Tunnel:​

[Romans 8:22 KJV] For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now.

They had to wait! You Don't!:​

[Romans 8:23 KJV] And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body.

They were Saved by The End Where they would be Able to Walk Through The Door of Righteousness:​

[Romans 8:24-25 KJV] For we are saved by hope: but hope that is seen is not hope: for what a man seeth, why doth he yet hope for?
[25] But if we hope for that we see not, then do we with patience wait for it.

The SPIRIT had to Pray for them because they were stuck in rotten flesh still that couldn't be Redeemed yet:​

[Romans 8:26-27 KJV] Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.
[27] And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.

Predestination in Rom 8 was for The First Fruits Christians between The Cross and 70 A.D. with a shot at a Finished Faith. calvinists have made a religion out of This Scripture ...it's unfounded:​

[Romans 8:28 KJV] And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.

This Is Saying JESUS was Conformed to be The Image of The FATHER'S Son: JESUS was The FIRSTBORN of What they were about to Become:​

The FIRSTBORN of The Image of His Son.​

[Romans 8:29 KJV] For whom he did foreknow[G4267], he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.

[1 Peter 1:20 KJV] Who verily was foreordained[G4267] before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you,

They couldn't have Eternal Glory yet:​

[Romans 8:30 KJV] Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.

[2 Thessalonians 1:10 KJV] When he shall come to be glorified in his saints, and to be admired in all them that believe (because our testimony among you was believed) in that day.

We Become a Son of GOD by being in This Glorified Image:​

[John 17:1 KJV] These words spake Jesus, and lifted up his eyes to heaven, and said, Father, the hour is come; glorify thy Son, that thy Son also may glorify thee:

[John 17:5 KJV] And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.

[John 17:22 KJV] And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one:

Where was JESUS? The Other Side of The Door: Eternal Glory.​

[John 17:24 KJV] Father, I will that they also, whom thou hast given me, be with me where I am; that they may behold my glory, which thou hast given me: for thou lovedst me before the foundation of the world.

Why is Paul needing to do something for the Elect?:​

[2 Timothy 2:10 KJV] Therefore I endure all things for the elect's sakes, that they may also obtain the salvation which is in Christ Jesus with eternal glory.

Because The Elect of Rom 8 was for his generation ...70 A.D.:​

[Matthew 24:22 KJV] And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.

[Matthew 24:24 KJV] For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

[Matthew 24:29-31 KJV] Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: 30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

[Acts 20:29-32 KJV] For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock.
[30] Also of your own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away disciples after them.
[31] Therefore watch, and remember, that by the space of three years I ceased not to warn every one night and day with tears.
[32] And now, brethren, I commend you to God, and to the word of his grace, which is able to build you up, and to give you an inheritance among all them which are sanctified.

[Jude 1:4 KJV] For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.

calvinists are pretending we have the same Church after He Returned. all false churches besides full preterism are counting on CHRIST not Returning yet.​

you are out of your mind if don't think This was 2,000 Years ago.:

Luke 17:32-35 KJV — Remember Lot's wife. Whosoever shall seek to save his life shall lose it; and whosoever shall lose his life shall preserve it. I tell you, in that night there shall be two men in one bed; the one shall be taken, and the other shall be left. Two women shall be grinding together; the one shall be taken, and the other left.

You either Know The TRUTH or you don't.​

[Romans 8:31 KJV] What shall we then say to these things? If God be for us, who can be against us?

After you are Born The Image of The Son:​

[Romans 8:32-33 KJV] He that spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us all, how shall he not with him also freely give us all things?
[33] Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth.

The Advocate does Make Intercession for us ...but not if you never plan to be on your own Cross:​

[Romans 8:34-35 KJV] Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.
[35] Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword?

We don't die daily anymore ...they couldn't Remain on their own personal Cross yet:​

[Romans 8:36 KJV] As it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter.

If they Remained on The Way to their own personal Cross ...nothing was going to separate them from The Love of GOD:​

[Romans 8:37-39 KJV] Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us.
[38] For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come,
[39] Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

most false churches are designed to claim we can't have a Finished FAITH yet.​

 

[Reborn-Adopted]

They who were in The LAMB'S Book of LIFE ...Returned after He Did: The Born Again Return from Heaven: The City on a Mountain. You Return as a Member of GOD'S Relationship:​

Malachi 3:16-18 KJV — Then they that feared the LORD spake often one to another: and the LORD hearkened, and heard it, and a book of remembrance was written before him for them that feared the LORD, and that thought upon his name. And they shall be mine, saith the LORD of hosts, in that day when I make up my jewels; and I will spare them, as a man spareth his own son that serveth him. Then shall ye return, and discern between the righteous and the wicked, between him that serveth God and him that serveth him not.

[John 3:13 KJV] And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.

Jude 1:14-15 KJV — And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints, To execute judgment upon all, and to convince all that are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have ungodly committed, and of all their hard speeches which ungodly sinners have spoken against him.

JESUS' Return Is your Return as a New Creation in GOD'S Relationship ...Revelation didn't end in 70 A.D.​

Full Preterists only see The Physical City destroyed. they don't see themselves Returning from The New City ...because It didn't happen to them yet.​

Those that made it through the Labor Pains for CHRIST'S Body started Pointing out the ungodly on their Return:​

[Ezekiel 39:11 KJV] And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will give unto Gog a place there of graves in Israel, the valley of the passengers on the east of the sea: and it shall stop the noses of the passengers: and there shall they bury Gog and all his multitude: and they shall call it The valley of Hamongog.

[Ezekiel 39:15-16 KJV] And the passengers that pass through the land, when any seeth a man’s bone, then shall he set up a sign by it, till the buriers have buried it in the valley of Hamongog.
[16] And also the name of the city shall be Hamonah. Thus shall they cleanse the land.

[Jeremiah 30:6-10 KJV] Ask ye now, and see whether a man doth travail with child? wherefore do I see every man with his hands on his loins, as a woman in travail, and all faces are turned into paleness?
[7] Alas! for that day is great, so that none is like it: it is even the time of Jacob's trouble; but he shall be saved out of it.
[8] For it shall come to pass in that day, saith the LORD of hosts, that I will break his yoke from off thy neck, and will burst thy bonds, and strangers shall no more serve themselves of him:
[9] But they shall serve the LORD their God, and David their king, whom I will raise up unto them.
[10] Therefore fear thou not, O my servant Jacob, saith the LORD; neither be dismayed, O Israel: for, lo, I will save thee from afar, and thy seed from the land of their captivity; and Jacob shall return, and shall be in rest, and be quiet, and none shall make him afraid.

Resurrection:​

[Ezekiel 37:11-14 KJV] Then he said unto me, Son of man, these bones are the whole house of Israel: behold, they say, Our bones are dried, and our hope is lost: we are cut off for our parts.
[12] Therefore prophesy and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, O my people, I will open your graves, and cause you to come up out of your graves, and bring you into the land of Israel.
[13] And ye shall know that I am the LORD, when I have opened your graves, O my people, and brought you up out of your graves,
[14] And shall put my spirit in you, and ye shall live, and I shall place you in your own land: then shall ye know that I the LORD have spoken it, and performed it, saith the LORD.

the false church returned from the valley city of hell without LIFE. they have satan's artificial life. resurrection of contempt.​

Daniel 12:2 KJV — And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.

...man made religion ...delusion:​

gog valley of death:

Ezekiel 37:1 KJV — The hand of the LORD was upon me, and carried me out in the spirit of the LORD, and set me down in the midst of the valley which was full of bones,

Symbolic for marrying a city of hell …a false church:

Nehemiah 13:27 KJV — Shall we then hearken unto you to do all this great evil, to transgress against our God in marrying strange wives?

Isaiah 5:5-6 KJV — And now go to; I will tell you what I will do to my vineyard: I will take away the hedge thereof, and it shall be eaten up; and break down the wall thereof, and it shall be trodden down: And I will lay it waste: it shall not be pruned, nor digged; but there shall come up briers and thorns: I will also command the clouds that they rain no rain upon it.

Isaiah 30:13-14 KJV — Therefore this iniquity shall be to you as a breach ready to fall, swelling out in a high wall, whose breaking cometh suddenly at an instant. And he shall break it as the breaking of the potters’ vessel that is broken in pieces; he shall not spare: so that there shall not be found in the bursting of it a sherd to take fire from the hearth, or to take water withal out of the pit.

Ezekiel 13:10-12 KJV — Because, even because they have seduced my people, saying, Peace; and there was no peace; and one built up a wall, and, lo, others daubed it with untempered morter: Say unto them which daub it with untempered morter, that it shall fall: there shall be an overflowing shower; and ye, O great hailstones, shall fall; and a stormy wind shall rend it. Lo, when the wall is fallen, shall it not be said unto you, Where is the daubing wherewith ye have daubed it?

babies don’t go to hell …because hell is separation from GOD’S Relationship. Scripture Says you are accountable for your own sin:​

Ezekiel 18:20-21 KJV — The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him. But if the wicked will turn from all his sins that he hath committed, and keep all my statutes, and do that which is lawful and right, he shall surely live, he shall not die.

Revelation 20:13-15 KJV — And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works. And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

 

[Reborn-Adopted]

JESUS is not Equal to His FATHER​

it's premill penal substitution to claim Gentiles are in a Tribe because JESUS Was.​

Even after you are Born from Heaven ...you still were never in a Tribe. Are you FROM New Jerusalem or not? Did you get on your own Cross or not?​

The most obvious problem they have is This:

[Revelation 1:7 NKJV] Behold, He is coming with clouds, and every eye will see Him, even they who pierced Him. And all the tribes of the earth will mourn because of Him. Even so, Amen.​

protestant:

Those who are born again of the Spirit of God are His children. We are in Christ Jesus and seated in Heavenly places.

They were seated in Heavenly Places ...until they could Return.​

Ephesians 2:6-7 KJV — And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus: That in the ages to come he might shew the exceeding riches of his grace in his kindness toward us through Christ Jesus.

[Ephesians 3:10 KJV] To the intent that now unto the principalities and powers in heavenly places might be known by the church the manifold wisdom of God,

JESUS Sat There also until The Return:​

Ephesians 1:20 KJV — Which he wrought in Christ, when he raised him from the dead, and set him at his own right hand in the heavenly places,

Why are people trying to say JESUS is Equal to His FATHER?​

The FATHER of JESUS Is The Namesake:​

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JESUS' FATHER Made The SPIRIT of GOD (CHRIST) That Dwells in your heart:​

[Ephesians 3:14-17 KJV] For this cause I bow my knees unto the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ,​

[15] Of whom the whole family in heaven and earth is named,​

[16] That he would grant you, according to the riches of his glory, to be strengthened with might by his Spirit in the inner man;​

[17] That Christ may dwell in your hearts by faith; that ye, being rooted and grounded in love,​

[1 Corinthians 15:24 KJV] Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.

[1 Corinthians 15:28 KJV] And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.

The SPIRIT Of GOD didn't have your personal sins. you have made CHRIST into your own image. JESUS Is your LORD GOD That Has a GOD ...not your servant to cleanup new sins after you claim to be on a Born Again Cross That He Made Possible.​

The SPIRIT OF GOD Is SEVEN SPIRITS. JESUS Is All Of Them. Guess why 7 is so common in Scripture?​

Zechariah 3:9 KJV — For behold the stone that I have laid before Joshua; upon one stone shall be seven eyes: behold, I will engrave the graving thereof, saith the LORD of hosts, and I will remove the iniquity of that land in one day.

Zechariah 4:10 KJV — For who hath despised the day of small things? for they shall rejoice, and shall see the plummet in the hand of Zerubbabel with those seven; they are the eyes of the LORD, which run to and fro through the whole earth.

Revelation 5:6 KJV — And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth.

[Revelation 19:10 KJV] …I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren that have the testimony of Jesus: worship God: for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.

JESUS Is Saying He Is our Father and GOD ...but He has A FATHER and GOD:​

John 20:17 KJV — Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them,

[John 14:28 KJV] Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.

I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.​

Revelation 21:7 KJV — He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.

JESUS our Father:​

[Luke 12:32-34 KJV] Fear not, little flock; for it is your Father's good pleasure to give you the kingdom.
[33] Sell that ye have, and give alms; provide yourselves bags which wax not old, a treasure in the heavens that faileth not, where no thief approacheth, neither moth corrupteth.
[34] For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.

CHRIST Is my GOD. GOD The FATHER Made The SPIRIT OF GOD and Sent That WORD / SPIRIT to us As THE WAY to have a Relationship:​

John 6:63 KJV — It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.

Matthew 24:35 KJV — Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.

John 17:17 KJV — Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.

John 14:6 KJV — Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

the lake of fire is the chaos Genesis Starts out in. GOD Gave us a Door/SPIRIT out of it to a Righteous Relationship with Him.​

Being Delivered is Going through That Door and Returning here as a New Birth. A Resurrection. Born of The SPIRIT of GOD:​

Jeremiah 30:6-8 KJV — Ask ye now, and see whether a man doth travail with child? wherefore do I see every man with his hands on his loins, as a woman in travail, and all faces are turned into paleness? Alas! for that day is great, so that none is like it: it is even the time of Jacob's trouble; but he shall be saved out of it. For it shall come to pass in that day, saith the LORD of hosts, that I will break his yoke from off thy neck, and will burst thy bonds, and strangers shall no more serve themselves of him:

Revelation 12:2 KJV — And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered.

Romans 8:22 KJV — For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now.

Do you have His REST knowing we can stop deliberate separation from Him?