My opinion is different. Jesus wants us to love.
i'm sorry, it is the historical and scriptural record. Based on the view of the bible and the contempt for the words of scripture that you appear to be presenting, you can't even be certain that Jesus even existed let alone saved anyone...which brings up an interesting logical dilemma...If Hell and torment does not exist, what does anyone need a saviour for?No it is simply your interpretation and opinion. Jesus said to love and not judge. I am not worried about being tortured forever at all.
i'm sorry, it is the historical and scriptural record. Based on the view of the bible and the contempt for the words of scripture that you appear to be presenting, you can't even be certain that Jesus even existed let alone saved anyone...which brings up an interesting logical dilemma...If Hell and torment does not exist, what does anyone need a saviour for?
M'kay...i think. However, if i'm reading you correctly (and it could be that i'm not, i detect a tincture of sarcasm there), what you're calling love, God declares to be sin.That is right, Hallelujah! Jesus commands me to love my neighbor as myself after all! That means I can love all my neighbors with my body, amen? Since my body is God's temple of love.
I love loopholes!!!
Why worry? You just claimed that there was no hell or torment? What is the penalty here? We won't get into the idea that Jesus was executed as a sacrifice for sin...something he has decidedly NOT called any of us to do.To save us from ourselves. Jesus is the model for how to behave.
Why worry? You just claimed that there was no hell or torment? What is the penalty here? We won't get into the idea that Jesus was executed as a sacrifice for sin...something he has decidedly NOT called any of us to do.
LOL, who writes your material? Jesus was executed as a sacrifice for sin. God HATES sin. Sin requires death. Christ died for sinners. And for the record, plenty of people who don't follow Jesus are persecuted. So that persecution thingy really doesn't mean much of anything. Morality has never saved anyone, only God saves people.I am not worried. Jesus was executed for teaching true morality. People who follow his lead today are also persecuted. Bigots who claim to be Christian are quite hate filled and are always looking to attack.
LOL, who writes your material? Jesus was executed as a sacrifice for sin. God HATES sin. Sin requires death. Christ died for sinners. And for the record, plenty of people who don't follow Jesus are persecuted. So that persecution thingy really doesn't mean much of anything. Morality has never saved anyone, only God saves people.
i'm still waiting on you to tell me what you're saved from if there is no hell or eternal torment.
Indeed. The problem is that the definitive guidance said “… these actions shall not be used to affect negatively the ordination rights of any United Presbyterian deacon, elder, or minister who has been ordained prior to this date.” The right to be called to and installed in a position is one of the most basic ordination rights. It’s very unlikely that the GA had intended to create a class of people who were ordained but couldn't be installed. (The decision wasn’t made by the GA, but by a Permanent Judicial Commission operating at the GA level.)i believe you will find that Spahr did not 'come out' until after the fact of her ordination. HOWEVER, she was out when she was called to co-pastor (does the PCUSA still have that structure?) a congregation in Rochester NY back in 1990...i may be off by a year or so on that date. That matter went all the way to the General Assembly before her call was disapproved.
I write my material.
All life dies. That is what life does. Here on earth anyways. Jesus brought the teaching of the best way to live. All that magic stuff was because people back then believed in magic so much. The magic parts are not what is actually important. The message of love and kindness and forgiveness is what is important.
If I didn't believe in "the magic parts", I'd be a Buddhist because their version of how to live better on Earth is much more detailed and better written than the "Just-a-Philosopher Jesus" version.
God doesn't torture for eternity. Any opinion that holds that he does is flawed. God is love.
Well good for them. Love your neighbor. We all deserve to have dignity and love.
Wait. You think Buddha was a better philosopher than Jesus? Wow. You spent way too little time reading the parts in red.
The revelation from scripture is that we have a soul that is eternal. All that "Magic stuff" is the revelation of Scripture, Jesus attributed it to a sovereign act of God.I write my material.
All life dies. That is what life does. Here on earth anyways. Jesus brought the teaching of the best way to live. All that magic stuff was because people back then believed in magic so much. The magic parts are not what is actually important. The message of love and kindness and forgiveness is what is important.
I write my material.
All life dies. That is what life does. Here on earth anyways. Jesus brought the teaching of the best way to live. All that magic stuff was because people back then believed in magic so much. The magic parts are not what is actually important. The message of love and kindness and forgiveness is what is important.
I’m not going to be quite so quick to jump on you as some others here, because I’m not absolutely sure what you believe.I write my material.
All life dies. That is what life does. Here on earth anyways. Jesus brought the teaching of the best way to live. All that magic stuff was because people back then believed in magic so much. The magic parts are not what is actually important. The message of love and kindness and forgiveness is what is important.
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