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Wrath from God would be on those who are unrepentant, and not in Christ. Would that not be so? But collapse will still come, Mystery Babylon will fall, God's people should come out, they need to do so themselves, God hates the destructiveness to this earth and they should not be involved with any of that.
 
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Wrath from God would be on those who are unrepentant, and not in Christ. Would that not be so? But collapse will still come, Mystery Babylon will fall, God's people should come out, they need to do so themselves, God hates the destructiveness to this earth and they should not be involved with any of that.
This is one of my favorite verses:

Rev 6:10 (ESV): They cried out with a loud voice, “O Sovereign Lord, holy and true, how long before you will judge and avenge our blood on those who dwell on the earth?”

“Those who dwell on the earth” are provably unbelievers. One of the best examples of that is:

Rev 11:10 (ESV): and those who dwell on the earth will rejoice over them and make merry and exchange presents, because these two prophets had been a torment to those who dwell on the earth.

In Rev 6:10 (above), who are those crying out? They are new converts in the Trib. They are a product of the 144k who evangelize and save a multitude, in the Trib. In Rev 7, their tremendous achievement is celebrated.

Rev 6:11 makes clear that there will be two groups of martyrs that will make up the GM (great multitude), found in Rev 7:9-17.

The martyrs in Rev 6:10 are the first group of martyrs from seals 2 and 4. There’s devastating carnage in both. The second group (cited as “fellow servants” in Rev 6:11), are found in Rev 20:4. In the last sentence of Rev 20:4, all of these martyrs are resurrected. They appear next in Heaven, in Rev 7:9-17.

It’s definitive that no believers will enter the Trib.
 
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This is one of my favorite verses:

Rev 6:10 (ESV): They cried out with a loud voice, “O Sovereign Lord, holy and true, how long before you will judge and avenge our blood on those who dwell on the earth?”

“Those who dwell on the earth” are provably unbelievers. One of the best examples of that is:

Rev 11:10 (ESV): and those who dwell on the earth will rejoice over them and make merry and exchange presents, because these two prophets had been a torment to those who dwell on the earth.

In Rev 6:10 (above), who are those crying out? They are new converts in the Trib. They are a product of the 144k who evangelize and save a multitude, in the Trib. In Rev 7, their tremendous achievement is celebrated.

Rev 6:11 makes clear that there will be two groups of martyrs that will make up the GM (great multitude), found in Rev 7:9-17.

The martyrs in Rev 6:10 are the first group of martyrs from seals 2 and 4. There’s devastating carnage in both. The second group (cited as “fellow servants” in Rev 6:11), are found in Rev 20:4. In the last sentence of Rev 20:4, all of these martyrs are resurrected. They appear next in Heaven, in Rev 7:9-17.

It’s definitive that no believers will enter the Trib.

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I do not speak to whether believers are in the time of the great tribulations. Believers have gone through tribulation already, through history, and would still be believers going through tribulation. There will be great things happening before the time of what is poured on the earth. Mystery Babylon will fall, that will happen before, God's people still being there must come out from there? Where do they go? There are not other cities to go to. They must settle in country where they can grow things and not contribute the destructiveness to the earth that God is hating, in small groups as community with fellowship they can continue with, away from cities.
 
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