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Pope Francis Appoints a Universalist

Discussion in 'Controversial Christian Theology' started by ClementofA, Jul 2, 2017.

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  1. ClementofA

    ClementofA Well-Known Member Supporter

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  2. Albion

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    The church has been going down that road for at least a decade now. When the great majority of members have absorbed the idea that a good pagan who never hear of Christ but tries to do his best according to his own religion is going to be saved, universalism cannot be far behind.
     
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  3. Solomons Porch

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    Not much to offer here except prayer :prayer:

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  4. PeaceB

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    Or you could just be spewing your usual anti-Catholic BS.
     
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    Didn't the Apostles think "soon" meant "in their lifetimes"? Weren't they almost sure of it? Didn't Jesus imply it? Didn't Revelation being addressed to the church leaders of the time indicate that?

    Evidence indicates that was supposed to happen around 2,000 years ago. It never did.
     
  6. Albion

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    Tell that to Gallup which surveyed all the major denominations and found that Roman Catholics are WAY ahead of all others when it comes to believing that anyone can be saved through being good, even if they never knew of Christ. Only 9% disagreed with the proposition.
     
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  7. Rajni

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    I suppose it all depends on what the active ingredient in the salvation process is. Not everyone believes it's Christ.
     
  8. Solomons Porch

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    Sweetheart whether it was 2,000 years ago OR in 2 hours, this ole girl plans on being ready and my lamps filled with oil, for the time has no bearing on me, HE said many will be sleeping and going about their daily business, true we carry on, BUT we keep watching for Him, because HE IS coming in an hour that we do not expect. It isn't panic for me, it is anticipation to "see" the Lord of all lords and King of all kings, He said He was coming for me and I believe Him.
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    "Salvation itself would become denaturalized if its absolute certainty would be affirmed and if we lost sight of the possibility of damnation."
    -Ladaria, Jesus Christ: Salvation of All, Page 12​
     
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    While I hope for Universal Reconciliation, I also recognize that this is a growing trend theologically, and that it is not neccesarily how things will work in the end. A growing apathy / enmity towards Scriptural gender roles, sexual restraint, and conservatism in general on one end of the scale, and an embrace of Universalism on the other seem to be going hand in hand these days. While I hope that all men may be saved through Christ, I have to concede that this move bodes badly for those in the Catholic Church who hold to those Apostolic, True, and Scriptural truths. To replace a relatively conservative voice with a Universalist is pretty much a sign of the times, and an indicator, imho, of Francis' true colours.
     
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  12. Solomons Porch

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    Amen sister I agree 100% and this saddens me even more so, God bless :prayer:
     
  13. Gabriel Anton

    Gabriel Anton Exitus Acta Probat Acta Non Verba Deus Vult 11:18

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    Peace be with you.

    Very Wise Man, Venerable ArchBishop Fulton John Sheen.

    God Bless His Good Soul Eternally.

    Some of his words:

    Show me your hands. Do they have scars from giving?

    Show me your feet. Are they wounded in service?

    Show me your heart. Have you left a place for divine love?


    Hearing nuns' confessions is like being stoned to death with popcorn.

    Jealousy is the tribute mediocrity pays to genius.

    Life is like a cash register, in that every account, every thought, every deed, like every sale, is registered and recorded.

    Love is a mutual self-giving which ends in self-recovery.

    Pride is an admission of weakness; it secretly fears all competition and dreads all rivals.

    Baloney is flattery laid on so thick it cannot be true, and blarney is flattery so thin we love it.

    The big print giveth, and the fine print taketh away.

    I feel it is time that I also pay tribute to my four writers, Matthew, Mark, Luke and John.

    Each of us makes his own weather, determines the color of the skies in the emotional universe which he inhabits.

    God bless you.
     
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    I must say these quotes are very wise and in depth, I haven't watched the video provided, but I will, love these quotes they are very deep:heart:
     
  15. 2PhiloVoid

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    Crystal, you really need to expand your academic reading on Eschatology, see what else is out there. There are several views. :cool: Just sayin'
     
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  16. frienden thalord

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    Peace B, most churches have been headed down this road.
    It is a lie from hell of course. I am going to send us a video of upmost wickedness
    this religion that is taught , this concept sprung from hell.
    God never said he was in all religions , in fact he said do not as they do
    do not worship their gods...........I got bad news
    wait till you see the one who has deceived so many. So many
    just trust in men and wont test their leaders
    I mean look at Mormons or jehvoas or heck most churches.
    But let me send a video for ALL TO SEE
    One deceives the people real bad.......but hey no names , just watch this vidoe
    I send next.
     
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    TO all it should come as no surprise the pope is for univeralism
    so is trump who sat under Vincent noram peal, a known universalist
    so was Obama. it seems like this is where the whole world will meet for peace
    OF course its of satan
    but watch this next video peace B real closely
    and remember GOD aint in all religions , in fact HE hates that concept
    as he told the jews.............do not worship their gods.
    But I see one main leader who is doing just this , as are others
    IS THISFACE familiar...............man he seems so familiar
    who is this man.............we better all flee this fast.
     
  18. frienden thalord

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    interfaith will lead the world right to the son of perdtion.
    who by PEACE shall destroy many.
     
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  19. PeaceB

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    That is not proof that Pope Francis is a universalist. It is a video that is meant to encourage dialogue among people of different faiths.
     
  20. Rajni

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    Interfaith dialogue is considered a bad thing by some, evidently.
     
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