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Scoot over sister!I will join you in your optimism.
Trying to keep my cool through all this drama! Lol!
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Scoot over sister!I will join you in your optimism.
I know right! It is hard to be optimistic in times like these.Scoot over sister!
Trying to keep my cool through all this drama! Lol!
Exactly! It really is! But our God is a merciful God. What is freaking us out He has under control.I know right! It is hard to be optimistic in times like these.
Exactly! It really is! But our God is a merciful God. What is freaking us out He has under control.
No one will be satisfied either way. At least half of the controversy over Pope Francis reminds me of the words of Jesus in Matt 11:by Geoffrey Grider April 4, 2020
Archbishop Viganò said it’s as if Pope Francis now views himself as becoming “master of the Church, free to demolish it from within without having to answer to anyone. In short, a tyrant,” he said.
Roman Catholics from deep within the Vatican are sounding the alarm bells today because Pope Francis is once again doing wacky, end times stuff. Today’s story comes from an article on the Catholic site Life Site News from a statement they received from Archbishop Carlo Maria Viganò. Viganò is quite alarmed that Pope Francis has dropped the title ‘Vicar of Christ’ in the annual Vatican Yearbook, and instead has listed himself in ‘his own name’ of Jorge Mario Bergoglio. Life Site News and Viganò are rightly alarmed by this breach of long-standing Vatican protocol, but if they knew anything about bible prophecy, they’d really be quaking in their boots. What Pope Francis did is a prophecy of Antichrist!
“But I know you, that ye have not the love of God in you. I am come in my Father’s name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive.” John 5:42,43 (KJB)
Vatican Watchers Stunned As Pope Francis Drops Title 'Vicar Of Christ' Assumes Power As Jorge Mario Bergoglio In 'His Own Name' Fulfilling John 5:43 Prophecy Of Antichrist • Now The End Begins
To me, I think it is internal Vatican politics (like the Dems wanting Trump out). The issue probably means more to some Catholics than others. As I understand that there is an internal to Catholics, conflict between liberalism and conservatism (more appropriate for a catholic to comment, than me).No one will be satisfied either way. At least half of the controversy over Pope Francis reminds me of the words of Jesus in Matt 11:
"We played the pipe for you, and you did not dance; we sang a dirge, and you did not mourn."
Well, at least we got that down then- LOL. Anyway, yes there are rival factions within the church-always have been since Peter & Paul were arguing I guess. But the church teachings, themselves, are of the highest import as I see it. And liberals, especially, will continue to be offended by many of those, while "traditionalists", not conservatives necessarily, are often concerned with more peripheral and non-essential matters IMO.To me, I think it is internal Vatican politics (like the Dems wanting Trump out). The issue probably means more to some Catholics than others. As I understand that there is an internal to Catholics, conflict between liberalism and conservatism (more appropriate for a catholic to comment, than me).
From a bible prophecy perspective, the pope, whoever, the current one or any other, is not the Antichrist because he is not qualified to become the King of Israel (for a while) which is the role of the Antichrist - the king of Israel, instead of and against the rightful King of Israel Jesus.
Michie, I just have to say, you're my favorite person on CF. I don't mean to be unduly flattering, but you're so grounded. Indeed, God is not perplexed by our problems. He knows the end from the beginning, and what's more, He's tried on every one of our temptations to make sure they're our size, and no bigger than what we're up for. God bless you for allowing Him to use you in such a positive way here on CF.Exactly! It really is! But our God is a merciful God. What is freaking us out He has under control.
You might want to read "How To Win Friends And Influence People."Well if you’ve read the history of the Papacy, stuff happening like this isn’t strange. I think it’s good for the Pope to drop a title like that, since Christ is the head of the Church in heaven and on Earth. No Patriarch is a vicar of Christ or shadow of God on Earth. However just a question to any Roman Catholics here, how can you remain a Roman Catholic when dogma and theology is obviously constantly changing whenever a Pope feels like it?
A little off-topic and inflammatory, isn't it?I think people should go back to history.
All the way back to first generation after apostles and those taught by them. So ignatius to magnesians “ your bishop presides in the place of Christ” is the origin of the vicar of Christ, used of bishops generally.
So it clearly was there from the early church on, not part of an apostasy. Indeed the apostates are those who disavow the power of succession.
Aw! Thank you! Not sure I deserve all that but I’ll take it! God bless you!Michie, I just have to say, you're my favorite person on CF. I don't mean to be unduly flattering, but you're so grounded. Indeed, God is not perplexed by our problems. He knows the end from the beginning, and what's more, He's tried on every one of our temptations to make sure they're our size, and no bigger than what we're up for. God bless you for allowing Him to use you in such a positive way here on CF.
Well if you’ve read the history of the Papacy, stuff happening like this isn’t strange. I think it’s good for the Pope to drop a title like that, since Christ is the head of the Church in heaven and on Earth. No Patriarch is a vicar of Christ or shadow of God on Earth. However just a question to any Roman Catholics here, how can you remain a Roman Catholic when dogma and theology is obviously constantly changing whenever a Pope feels like it?
Maybe this Pope is actually born again.by Geoffrey Grider April 4, 2020
Archbishop Viganò said it’s as if Pope Francis now views himself as becoming “master of the Church, free to demolish it from within without having to answer to anyone. In short, a tyrant,” he said.
Roman Catholics from deep within the Vatican are sounding the alarm bells today because Pope Francis is once again doing wacky, end times stuff. Today’s story comes from an article on the Catholic site Life Site News from a statement they received from Archbishop Carlo Maria Viganò. Viganò is quite alarmed that Pope Francis has dropped the title ‘Vicar of Christ’ in the annual Vatican Yearbook, and instead has listed himself in ‘his own name’ of Jorge Mario Bergoglio. Life Site News and Viganò are rightly alarmed by this breach of long-standing Vatican protocol, but if they knew anything about bible prophecy, they’d really be quaking in their boots. What Pope Francis did is a prophecy of Antichrist!
“But I know you, that ye have not the love of God in you. I am come in my Father’s name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive.” John 5:42,43 (KJB)
Vatican Watchers Stunned As Pope Francis Drops Title 'Vicar Of Christ' Assumes Power As Jorge Mario Bergoglio In 'His Own Name' Fulfilling John 5:43 Prophecy Of Antichrist • Now The End Begins
A little off-topic and inflammatory, isn't it?