Please Help Me

[christalee4]

I think the OP-er was wondering if it would be all right for him to have a non-Christian girlfriend, not a wife. And for that matter, would it okay for him to have non-Christian friends? I know some fundamentalist Christians frown on fraternization with non-Christians, as there may be a danger of bad influence infecting the Christian, like it was catching.

 

[Zaac]

And Zaac, of course, having his own direct phone line to God's front office, is best suited to be telling young people how to live their lives.

That direct line is a Most Blessed thing. 1-HOL-YSP-IRIT.

And don't think that telling ya what God's Word says is resigned to the "young." Old folks are to be corrected also.

Now as for you and any other, live your life however you choose. But do it with the understanding that you have been given God's truth, and when you come before His throne, you will be judged according to His truth. So reject it if you so choose.Or accept Him and the Word that is HIM, and be blessed.

 

[Soul Searcher]

If your relationship with your wife is more important than your obedience to God, question who you are really serving.

Perhaps you should ask yourself if you should value your obedience to Paul is more important than loving others.

 

[sanaa]

Nope. He is a Christian and there is no compromise to be struck where God's Word is concerned.

He is to raise His kids up in Christ. And it would be sinful for him, as the head of his wife, to allow any view other than the Christian view to be taught to the kids for whom he is responsible by God.

do u follow the bible to the T

 

[Zaac]

I think the OP-er was wondering if it would be all right for him to have a non-Christian girlfriend, not a wife. And for that matter, would it okay for him to have non-Christian friends? I know some fundamentalist Christians frown on fraternization with non-Christians, as there may be a danger of bad influence infecting the Christian, like it was catching.

Principles and commands of God. If God has told us not to be yoked to an unbeliever in marriage, what is the purpose in being in a close relationship with a nonbeliever who may equally influence you?

The purpose of the Christian being friends with the nonChristian is to witness Christ. And when the friendship becomes about something other than witnessing Christ, therein lies the danger to the Christians testimony.

A little leaven leavens the whole lump of dough" Gal. 5:9

 

[Zaac]

Perhaps you should ask yourself if you should value your obedience to Paul is more important than loving others.

You seem to be confused about what the Word of God is. I am not.

 

[Zaac]

do u follow the bible to the T

I'm a sinner just like everybody else on this board. But me being a sinner has nothing to do with the blatant disregard an disobedience to God's Word that you're suggesting is OK just because fleshly men cannot follow the Bible's commands to a T.

That's why Christians are to walk in the Spirit.

 

[sanaa]

I'm a sinner just like everybody else on this board. But me being a sinner has nothing to do with the blatant disregard an disobedience to God's Word that you're suggesting is OK just because fleshly men cannot follow the Bible's commands to a T.

That's why Christians are to walk in the Spirit.

if he was blatantly disregarding the bible , he wouldnt appear to be in a dilemma about it .

 

[Zaac]

if he was blatantly disregarding the bible , he wouldnt appear to be in a dilemma about it .

Did I say that HE was blatantly disregarding anything?

I said that YOU are suggesting, not him.

 

[Soul Searcher]

You seem to be confused about what the Word of God is. I am not.

According to the bible the WORD OF GOD is JESUS. It seems to be you who are confused. Correct me if I am wrong but Jesus did not say we should not marry nonbelievers did he? In the OT it even talks about taking captive women from other tribes and making them wives. I would think it safe to say they were not of the same faith since they were enemy tribes wouldn't you?

No you seem to think that Pauls suggestions of conduct are Gods commandments. I do not think this is correct.

 

[Nymphalidae]

Nope. He is a Christian and there is no compromise to be struck where God's Word is concerned.

He is to raise His kids up in Christ. And it would be sinful for him, as the head of his wife, to allow any view other than the Christian view to be taught to the kids for whom he is responsible by God.

Right, because the wife shouldn't be allowed her own thoughts, much less the ability to teach her children anything. Maybe this guy sees his girlfriend as a HUMAN BEING and respects her beliefs and needs.

 

[Jetgirl]

Right, because the wife shouldn't be allowed her own thoughts, much less the ability to teach her children anything. Maybe this guy sees his girlfriend as a HUMAN BEING and respects her beliefs and needs.

 

[NothingButTheBlood]

The Bible warns of marrage to an unbeliever. They will not understand your faith. They will not pray with you, attend church with you, find the same things important you do. They will not encourage your faith to grow and may actually hinder it. I am not saying you shouldn't marry the person just that you will need to tell them your concerns and see where to go from there. Maybe they are willing to see why you have accepted Christ and may accept Him as well. I think you should definitly address the issue with them. Later on you may have fights over things reguarding your faith that could lead to your marriage not working so better to really think hard about it now.

 

[Zaac]

According to the bible the WORD OF GOD is JESUS. It seems to be you who are confused.

If you say so.

Correct me if I am wrong but Jesus did not say we should not marry nonbelievers did he?

What is at issue here is the very same mistake that people are constantly making. Somewhere along the line , people have become confused into thinking that because the words in red in their Bible are the words directly attributed to Jesus, that the rest of the bible is not the Word of God.


The ENTIRE BIBLEis the Word of God. The ENTIRE BIBLE is the very Word that became flesh in the person of Jesus Christ. The truth that is the Word of God is Jesus Christ. The very same God-inspired scripture(2 Timothy 3:16)---ALL OF IT--- that you read in the Bible--- is the very same truth that is Jesus Christ.

In the OT it even talks about taking captive women from other tribes and making them wives. I would think it safe to say they were not of the same faith since they were enemy tribes wouldn't you?

And as peep was told, deal with the FULL COUNSEL of GOD'S WORD. That includes the New Testament and His new covenant that you are not contexting with what is said in the OT.

No you seem to think that Pauls suggestions of conduct are Gods commandments. I do not think this is correct.

You nor anyone else has to think it's correct.Again, 2 Timothy 3:16 tells you that ALL SCRIPTURE is God-inspired. And if you dismiss one part of it as not being God's truth but the truth of the person (in this case paul)who wrote the letter, then you have no reason to trust ANY of it.

And if you dismiss the God inspired words of Paul why are you so quick to accept the God inspired words of Moses and others that speak of taking women from other tribes captive and making them wives?

 

[NothingButTheBlood]

Right, because the wife shouldn't be allowed her own thoughts, much less the ability to teach her children anything. Maybe this guy sees his girlfriend as a HUMAN BEING and respects her beliefs and needs.

Ephesians is clear that the man is the spritual leader of the family. It's not that her opinion doesn't matter it's that she may not find certain Christian principals important. If this man is a Christian than he is going to want his children raised in a certain type of environment. A Christian wife will want that as well. In other words if they are both Christians the wife and husband will have some common ground to work from. If his wife and he disagree on these things it's not going to benefit anyone. That is why we are cautioned to think before we marry someone outside the faith.

 

[Zaac]

Right, because the wife shouldn't be allowed her own thoughts, much less the ability to teach her children anything. Maybe this guy sees his girlfriend as a HUMAN BEING and respects her beliefs and needs.

And maybe your atheistic-biased opinion carries no weight when it comes to advising Christians in the things of God of which you continue to show you lack the discernment for.

I am not impressed by the constant red herrings that are tossed out to make it appear as though disobedience to God is somehow okay because it is done for the sake of the woman or man to have their own rights and beliefs.

 

[Soul Searcher]

The Bible warns of marrage to an unbeliever. They will not understand your faith. They will not pray with you, attend church with you, find the same things important you do. They will not encourage your faith to grow and may actually hinder it. I am not saying you shouldn't marry the person just that you will need to tell them your concerns and see where to go from there. Maybe they are willing to see why you have accepted Christ and may accept Him as well. I think you should definitly address the issue with them. Later on you may have fights over things reguarding your faith that could lead to your marriage not working so better to really think hard about it now.

I would agree with most of this but would add that there is a big difference between one who does not share your belief and one who is directly opposed to it. There are many people who do not believe but still hold many christain values near and dear to thier heart.

I would also add that it should not matter if they do not want to pray with you as Jesus tells us our prayer should be private.

 

[sanaa]

Did I say that HE was blatantly disregarding anything?

I said that YOU are suggesting, not him.

i did not tell him to go ahead and marry her . i just said what he could do to make it work if he finds himself unable to follow the Bible to a T

 

[NothingButTheBlood]

I would agree with most of this but would add that there is a big difference between one who does not share your belief and one who is directly opposed to it. There are many people who do not believe but still hold many christain values near and dear to thier heart.

I would also add that it should not matter if they do not want to pray with you as Jesus tells us our prayer should be private.

There should be private prayer time. But I also believe a married couple should be praying together as well. It would be like saying you shouldn't pray in church because you are only to pray in private. You are right that a person can be moral but not saved. When push comes to shove though when spiritual matters come up the non-Christian spouse is not going to be concerned with the faith of the other.

 

[Zaac]

I would agree with most of this but would add that there is a big difference between one who does not share your belief and one who is directly opposed to it. There are many people who do not believe but still hold many christain values near and dear to thier heart.

Again, a nice new age approach to dealing with truth. The FACT remains that either a person IS a believer or he is not. If a person does not share your belief that Jesus Christ is Lord, that person is a nonbeliever. He can share all the Christian values that he wants with you. He is STILL an unbeliever and the believer is NOT to be yoked to him.

I would also add that it should not matter if they do not want to pray with you as Jesus tells us our prayer should be private.

How does praying with your spouse conflict with prayer being private? Can you not pray in silence with your spouse present?Is there no evidence in God's Word of public prayer by the saints?