Philosophical arguments against the existence of God

[Archaeopteryx]

No.

I am here to attempt to respectfully dialogue with people who have views different than mine so that I may help and edify and encourage and in turn be helped edified and encouraged by being able to help edify and encourage others.

Do you really think you are helping and edifying others here?

 

[DogmaHunter]

I observe the fruit produced from my experiences and compare it with God's word. If the fruit of my experiences are love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, gentleness, self-control, meekness, selflessness, and humility, and an acute awareness of my total helplessness without Christ working in me to will and to do His good pleasure, then I am persuaded my experiences are of God, for these are the fruits Christ bore while on earth. As He honored His Father, so I honor Him.

This isn't any different from what you said earlier.

It's still nothing but confirmation bias.

 

[Archaeopteryx]

The question still stands: is what you are going on about an accurate description of reality?

It sure is.

Do you have any intention of substantiating that claim here in these forums?

If God sees fit, yes. If not, no.

I suppose we should take that as a 'no'.

 

[Ana the Ist]

I suppose we should take that as a 'no'.

Well...maybe he asked god to substantiate it for him and god dodged him lol.

 

[anonymous person]

Could those things not be produced apart from that?

Since Paul refers to the aforementioned as "fruits of the Spirit", then apart from the Spirit, these things cannot be produced.

 

[anonymous person]

I suppose we should take that as a 'no'.

You can take it however you like.

 

[Archaeopteryx]

He of course, is not.

By the way, it may help you understand where I am coming from if I tell you that when it comes to epistemology, I am an adherent to the reformed epistemology school of thought as opposed to the foundationalist or evidentialist school.

Hang on... an adherent of reformed epistemology? In other words, playing the "inner witness" card? I thought you said that you were open to reconsidering things?

 

[Archaeopteryx]

Since Paul refers to the aforementioned as "fruits of the Spirit", then apart from the Spirit, these things cannot be produced.

Paul was wrong.

 

[anonymous person]

This isn't any different from what you said earlier.

It's still nothing but confirmation bias.

Thank you for sharing that with me. It will help motivate me to seek guidance on how to best respond to such an objection. Thanks.

 

[anonymous person]

Paul was wrong.

Thanks for sharing that with me. It will motivate me to pray and seek God's will on how to respond to others who have the same response.

 

[anonymous person]

Hang on... an adherent of reformed epistemology? In other words, playing the "inner witness" card? I thought you said that you were open to reconsidering things?

I am.

 

[anonymous person]

Do you really think you are helping and edifying others here?

Yes. The likes I receive and private messages I receive from people that I have helped encourage me that my labor here is not in vain.

 

[Archaeopteryx]

I am.

You are playing the "inner witness" card or you are open to reconsidering things? Those two are not compatible positions.

 

[anonymous person]

You are playing the "inner witness" card or you are open to reconsidering things? Those two are not compatible positions.

Why not?

 

[Archaeopteryx]

Yes. The likes I receive and private messages I receive from people that I have helped encourage me that my labor here is not in vain.

Given that you explicitly stated your goal is to convert us, I would say - given the number of nonbelievers who have converted due to your efforts - your labors are indeed wasted. But that's not why I think you're here anyway.

 

[Archaeopteryx]

Why not?

Because the "inner witness" card is played to declare triumph no matter what the outcome. It's there to prevent one from reconsidering one's theological commitments.

 

[anonymous person]

Because the "inner witness" card is played to declare triumph no matter what the outcome. It's there to prevent one from reconsidering one's theological commitments.

Oh ok.

Yea I don't have such a "card".

 

[anonymous person]

Given that you explicitly stated your goal is to convert us, I would say - given the number of nonbelievers who have converted due to your efforts - your labors are indeed wasted. But that's not why I think you're here anyway.

Oh ok. Thanks for sharing that. I have learned even more that I can now take and assimilate to help better understand people's views.

I must say you have enriched me greatly.

 

[Archaeopteryx]

Oh ok.

Yea I don't have such a "card".

Then in what sense are you an adherent of deformed epistemology?

 

[anonymous person]

Then in what sense are you an adherent of deformed epistemology?

I'm not.